That's like throwing the baby out with the bath water. Miata and BRZ aren't even in the same ballpark for performance and the WRX has a shitty factory tune that could very well pop your motor. Think that's more of an 'Achilles Hill' than a weak CSC.

If you don't like your Z, trade it in on something else.

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weak CSC ≠ weak drivetrain :rolleyes:



but then again ... Miata doors :icon17:

You think Nissan learned about their faulty CSCs from the later model 350z. I don't comprehend the reasoning behind "continuing a recalled known-problem" to the 370z. That's what gets me.

So in conclusion no matter how you drive your Z this will happen and on a side note that I may have missed , has anyone asked the dealer to replace the plastic piece with a more durable material non oem?...I just did my 15k maintenance myself and hope that I can reach the 20k marker without any issues but I guess is just a matter of time right?..:driving:

I cant wait to get mine replaced just for the peace of mind..

i don't think they will ever issue a recall regarding this. not enough pressure on them to do so. i like what this thread was started for and it may get it some more push for attention, but the chances are small.

The only way to really get pressure on nissan is going through the media, thats the best way to get maximum number of eyes on the issue. (just my personal opinion)

that is true. media can give the most exposure

I've been saying this for the longest...:shakes head:

Alright, who has friends in the News industry/Magazines/Newspaper/Media?

What are the sales number of Z's vs what percentage with this issue? Hard to believe I'm an outlier with it happening so soon but I suppose it's possible.

Someone want to crunch the number and get means and standard deviation on the numbers we have to extrapolate likelihood to have CSC failure vs those who get rid of them before it happens, etc?

F this. I'm selling the Z and get a bike.

^^More smiles per mile on the bike any anything with 4 wheels. :)

So I drove my Z for the first time today since my quick trip to San Diego 10 days ago when I had my clutch sticking problems. Drove great today so I guess I have a little more time before my grenade explodes lol the two times it happened to me were getting off the freeway after long drives. Fluid looks fine.

Can a mechanically inclined person here explain in detail why the CSC fails and then goes back to normal?, then fails again (pedal to the floor) and comes back after a while? Sorry not a motorhead here.

Still breaking in my "Upgraded" setup. Still pleased with my purchase. I got use to the lighter flywheel, & ACT Clutch Kit. I did notice that there is some minor chatter after car is hot, at idle, with A/C on and in neutral with clutch out. I hear it, but my fiends say they don't hear it. I'm just more "in-tune" with my car than they are. I only hear it with windows down. When widows are up, I just hear the aftermarket True Dual AAM exhaust.
I'm awaiting quote from AAM for a differential upgrade, a Quaife Rear with ZSpeed finned Diff Cover & new bearing setup.

The Z can be improved! Don't give it up yet! We are all making noise hear that is beginning to drawl a lot of attention from Nissan & outside reviewers. No car manufacturer likes their "performance based" models referred to as WEAK &/or having FAULTY COMPONENTS. It's a tough market out there, and Nissan will have to fight to be a contender against other manufacturers.
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My guess, and it is a GUESS, that it happens when fluid/clutch hydraulics get really hot. I'm leaning towards changing my clutch fluid twice a year to be on the safe side due to my spirited driving style & will only use GTR Hydraulic fluid.

There's nothing special about the GTrR fluid. Use Motul rbf600 synthetic

http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/p...id/Brake_Fluid

Thats what I'm using. RBF600:tup:

Best description- they insulated only the lower portion of the tubing that leads from the Master Cylinder to the Slave. This leaves the upper area of the line open to heat sink. Unfortunately there's still a good section of non-protected tube that runs straight past your exhaust lines. Overheated/Boiling fluid + plastic parts = lose.

I am still waiting on the CSC delivery from Zspeed since they were closed all last week. Just got the tracking email today (7/13) and it should be in OKC by 4:30 Wed. That makes it about two weeks downtime now since mine acted up on 7/2 just before the holiday weekend. My tranny locked down in second gear with the shifter in neutral due to my clutch being floor pinned. I haven't heard of anyone else having this issue and the mechanic said it was probably just a fluke combined with my pressure and timing of pulling the shifter into neutral with the jenk pedal.

I'm still having him wrap the exhaust line in thermal kevlar along with the new part replacement. :ugh2:

I actually asked the guy unknowingly for the number of cars that had this replaced under warranty when I was on the phone with nissan some time ago. He said they didn't keep records of warranty repairs...

But our list should be about 86 or 87 cars on our own right now...

Maybe we should start looking into lawyering up, Starting like a gofundme page to pay for said attorney and someone with some legal intelligence to handle it (not it!)

BTW: I got a follow up email from the NHTSA pretty much saying they're investigating the issue and want more information from tire size to where I got the car and copies of invoices... I have the repair invoice and invoice from the Nissan dealership of inspection.

can you take pics of the wrap and the work you guys did, its something I might be interested in doing as well.. thanks man.

Sticky: (Official) 370Z Clutch Pressure (CSC) Failures
 

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07...c2adcfd2b1.jpg

I wrapped mine in Thermo-Tec heat sleeve. Good for 2k deg, I think.

The HFCs, since removed, are wrapped in header wrap.

If you are going header wrap DEI titanium is the only way to go!

My understanding is that as the fluid gets dirty, the dirt particles get past the seals on the CMC and/or CSC, allowing air pockets into the clutch system. This is the reason that some people just get a half dead pedal instead of full on failure. Once the seals deteriorate enough, you get stranded. This is also the reason you need to change both the CMC and the CSC at the same time because dirty fluid from the old part can compromise the new part if you just replace one. I also suspect hot fluid will aid the fluid's ability to get past the seals as the fluid is thinner.

Dude, you ARE the man, thank you so much.

Im gonna use my best friend google and find this stuff, thank you sooo much.

I agree, it was handy at time of fluid change. Still a better option than the average/no name brands of brake fluid sold at gas stations.

Luv the Z, hate the CSC & Nissan's answer to the CSC issues many of us have had, which is "the sound of cricket's". You are correct that Miata & BRZ aren't in the same class. But each passed the Flatbed Truck towing my Z to repair shop for CSC issue!

So did a bunch of econoboxes but you fail to mention those :tup: :rofl2:

Save you the trouble

http://m.summitracing.com/parts/the-14010

And it is 2k deg protection

Those passed the Tow truck too. Even on a tow truck the Z "looks good....". It looked good both times the CSC had to be replaced. Wised up this time though, went with a HD CSC from ZSpeed instead of replacing it again with piece of sh*t Nissan OEM CSC

Thank you brother.

Dude, your CSC failed twice? So you had it fail, you replaced it, then failed again, you replaced it, then the 3rd time you got the one from Zspeed? Am I understanding this correctly?

Just purchased this stuff, thanks so much man!

Any time

Recommended install method. Take a pair of scissors. Open them up completely and place one blade inside the wrap on the threaded seem. Holding the wrap firmly pull the scissors away from you so it slices the thread and opens the wrap up. Then you can wrap everything around the line and just secure it with zip ties every few inches.

ahhh very smart... thank you sir.

Oh I forgot to mention, I prepaid for the labor at AAM, I could have had the Z done by this Thursday or Friday, but Im waiting on my fluids in the mail.. So next Friday, we should be rocking and rolling.

That doesn't seem to fit. It doesn't seem to matter how hard you drive it but pretty random. I was very mild with mine and only just out of warranty when it happened. I've been a little harder on it since break-in period ended, but really rather mild compared to how often I would redline my old Honda (since I don't want a reckless driving ticket :D ).

So i guess im going to be part of the problem, ive had my z for about 8 months, 30,000 miles and 5 autocross events, when the car gets hot, even on the interstate for 20 minutes when i go to push the clutch in it is very weak both in and out. Im going to take it to the dealer thursday just to have the record on file and then go about wrapping my line and changing the fluids. i made the claim about the csc failure online a week or so ago, anybody know of any resolution with these claims?

They're gonna tell you to take it to the dealer and have it "serviced" which means bend over and cough... for $2000:mad: