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They have done nothing to change the plastic CSC in our cars. It is still a plastic POS and the problem still affects all manual models up to the 16. Infact, someone on here with a brand new 16 with 500 miles had the CSC failure. Mine is a 13 and I saw the OEM that was removed and yup, still a plastic POS.....

Well that sucks ha-ha just a ticking bomb.

I guess that works out if you decide to sell it in a year... Mine was replaced with an OEM through warranty and I'm expecting it to fail again in another 20k-30k miles or about 2 years.

It's replacing a poorly designed part with the exact same part :confused:

you're a very lucky dude.. this is definitely thee exception and not the rule. :icon17:

You are extremely lucky. Dealers DO NOT do this and ARE NOT this nice.



Same part and same issue with 13s 14s 15s and the current 16 model. They all have this problem.

^^Totally agree. No one with a MT can escape this.. :icon17:

Good will coverage is actually a possibility for those that spend a lot of money at the dealership. So if you get all your maintenance done at the dealer, you have a much better shot at this if you are beyond the 3yr/36K mile warranty. I guess making a big enough stink about it to corporate works occasionally as well.

Of course, the end result is you are still inconvenienced by the dealer having to do the work, and they install another prone-to-failure OEM part. Have fun dealing with the same issue down the road :ugh2:

I have been reading this post and wonder if your statement is true, was this an issue with the 350Z's?..a friend of mine has one and has over 60k miles with no issues :driving:

Yes it was. And 60K isn't exactly a whole lot of miles - it's just better than the 20K that some people are getting. The damn thing should last at least as long as the clutch (100K+ miles). What I want to know is how many people (that don't burn up the clutch and can actually drive a MT properly) made it to clutch replacement without having to first address a CSC issue.

Sticky: (Official) 370Z Clutch Pressure (CSC) Failures
 

I've never burnt a clutch out in my life (I'd estimate 350-400k miles over four different cars). My CSC broke at 1,200 miles on the car so I'm not in that range at all. I had never even driven the car hard. 1,200 miles was the break in recommendation from Infiniti. I broke the mileage parking the car on a Friday. Took it out Saturday morning to finally see how much car I'd actually bought. Did full gear pulls through 3rd getting on the freeway. Exited to do it again on the next entrance ramp and when I got to the light the CSC had died.

thats just crazy, 1200 miles...yikes. :eek:

Happened to my then month old '15 with 2000 miles

Still waiting for the guy on reddit chime in. He had a 2016 that went out just a few days after the car left the dealer's lot, <500 miles. Although, I'm think the dealer will take care of him. Don't see any reason why they wouldn't. But you never know for sure, it's Nissan we're talking about after all.

i know right..

:ugh:

:iagree:

You're absolutely right. Some of you guys have less miles than me and the dealer won't budge. I've always had good luck with this dealer and would get all of my warranty work done there. I never used them for oil changes or other maintenance work though so I'm definitely not a "VIP" customer. I guess it's hit or miss with dealers.

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Not sure if you have said already, but what dealer do you go to in SoCal?

Sounds like you have a good car dealership. Thats rare.

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Yup. Wasn't to happy about it considering I had just bought a $40k car.

Thankfully the dealer gave me no flak about it. Told me they couldn't duplicate the issue but there was a TSB on it so they replaced it with no other discussion about it.

I also has the 6th gear syncro issue and they replaced my tranny for free too. :tup:

In fairness I think you generally get better service from a 'luxury' dealer.

Yup, I'd agree with that.

I ordered my fluids earlier today, and I'll be meeting up with AAM most likely tomorrow.

Mossy Nissan Poway.

Y'all have a Mossy Nissan in Cali too?

Yeah, we have the whole Mossy line up here; Ford, Nissan, etc.

I plan to buy 370z mt but reading this disc failure. Would be safe to say if I do purchase 370z to go ahead and replace the csc with zspeed along with the aftermarket clutch since they have to take transmission out anyways? Also plan to do the arp clutch pedal. I should be all good? Anybody know the price range install and good shop around Dallas area?

You could go many miles before CSC fails. It's really a personal decision. I had no plan, my CSC failed . Luckily I had Triple AAA Tow coverage. I never had problems with clutch plate/pressure plate. I just chose to upgrade to a stronger Street Performance/track clutch kit since I later plan on going "forced Induction". OEM flywheel is heavy but ensures quiet trans. I went to a solid steel ACT Streetlite flywheel for improved performance. I do notice minor chatter when at idle, in a garage, in neutral with A/C on and windows down. It's not noticeable once out in the open. The performance improvement & responsiveness by far out weigh that minor chatter under those circumstances. I purchased clutch kit, flywheel, HD CSC, CMC, Insulated Cluthline, MOTUL Gear Oil & GTR Fluid all from ZSpeed and very pleased with their service/parts/prices & S/H.

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Yeah so save a little money the stock clutch is fine than. I plan on getting use but low mileage. So csc with the arp pedal change should be fine?

Sorry guys meant afp by rjm performance

Can you please elaborate on this if you don't mind? Looking at this setup and would like to know how this compares to stock in performance gains, longevity and feel?

OK, bare with me, I'm a "driver" not so much a "gear head" so my observations are from that perspective. ACT HDSS Clutch, needs 300-500 miles breakin (not just highway miles; stop n go daily driving too). So far I only have 78 miles on it. The lighter ACT Streetlite Flywheel gives quicker revs, and upshifting is extremely fast & smooth. Quick downshifting I found is much smoother with double clutching/rev matching, & heel n toe driving method. Yesterday on my way to a "Z & Coffee Event" I got stuck in a backup on I-70, stop n go 5mph or less. It did get a little annoying with some clutch judder. It seemed to increase with each time I let out on clutch (about every 30-90 seconds as cars inched along). Once cleared and moving clutch settled down & was fine during normal stop light/intersection stops. Again, remember I have not reached the full BREAKIN PERIOD as of yet! The lighter flywheel has less mass therefore as quickly as it revs up, it also revs down. You will notice that you may have to rev a little higher to start from a stopped position on a incline/hill. But I've gotten much better with it with practice. In a way, you will have to learn your clutch style over again when changing from OEM setup, but thats not bad, its no different than getting use to clutch feel in a different car than your are use to driving. Definitely change transmission gear oil to the MOTUL Gear Oil (ZSpeed 4qts=$74.00). Cheaper, old gear oil may result in louder chatter noise. There is a YouTube by ZSpeed where Joe demonstrates flywheel chatter from a 19lb solid flywheel. Though he doesn't mention brand name, I DO NOT THINK it is a ACT 19lb flywheel, because no-way does the ACT HDSS Clutch Kit & ACT 19lb Streetlite Flywheel sound that loud on my car whether it be cold/hot start, or A/C on or off, clutch in or out at idle.
As I break-in this system I will post updates and will closely monitor if there is any change in level of noise chatter, grabbing, slipping etc. It's still new setup (only 78 miles on it), and currently I am very pleased with it.
If you plan to eventually go FI, you will have to upgrade from OEM Clutch.

Thank you for your reply. Interesting that it revs up quicker than stock. I eventually will go FI but not for a couple of years. At the moment its my DD and I mostly drive in the city and not in the highway. Just want something robust that its better than stock quality wise.

I'm in the same boat in deciding what all to update while I'm in there for the csc

Take your time when choosing. Research as much as possible; what are you future goals/mods for car, driving habits (daily driver, weekend warrior or track only). Also consider what kind of traffic you have to contend with. If you are in daily back-ups/gridlock/rush hour traffic you may want to keep OEM flywheel, and just upgrade to a HD CSC. Joe at ZSpeed was a very big help to me. He answers questions & can help you choose based upon your driving goals/requirements.

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Thanks for your feedback. Any chance you know the cost for csc?

Meant installing

Basically the same as a clutch install since most of the labor is dropping the tranny. 5-6 shop hrs. Cost will depend on the labor rate but roughly $100/hr

Thanks bud. I'm considering your setup because it is not a daily driver more of a weekend car and I am very rarely ever in traffic and I would consider going forced induction in a year maybe two

Yes I purchased HD CSC from ZSpeed at $325.00 plus S&H. (OEM CSC runs about 115.00 to 125.00)But you can save more at ZSpeed. You see I was buying parts each week on payday; it took me a month to finally get everything I wanted. ( I've been on a budget ever since divorce, haha) But ZSpeed has "Package Deals" that include CLUTCH kits/flywheel/new CMC/HD CSC/ insulated CLUTCH line too,,, that are cheaper than buying piece meal like I did. Plus you'll have just one S&H charge.

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It's becoming apparent to me that the Nissan 370Z Manual transmission has a "Achilles Heel", the CSC ! So no matter how Nissan boasts of HP, 0 to 60mph times, or any bogus claim of fame of the 370Z, IT IS A WEAK CAR,, their CSC product is SH*T ! And leaves you stranded & embarrassed no matter how good the car looks. The fact is A Mazda Miata, or a Suburu BRZ has a more reliable Drive Train! It's a classic tale of the "Tortoise & the Hare". Nissan being the Hare, and all others being the steady/reliable Tortoise. ! Dam the Suburu WRX STI is looking really good. You build cars upon a foundation, and if you build a car upon a WEAK DRIVE TRAIN, then you got a WEAK car no matter the horsepower/suspension/interior features etc. Very Disappointed in Nissan!

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Im excited to get my transmission upgraded.. Im still awaiting my fluids from in the mail. Maybe by this weekend, I could be rocking and rolling.