JWT clutch is just too damn good... unfortunately...

Spddracer · 03-09-2011, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370

valeo makes hundreds of csc's the one in our cars is at the very bottom of there cost line, thats why it's crummy and plastic. They make metal ones, most with the interal plastic piston(which you can't actually see unless you take the mofo all they way apart)and you know how i know the zspeed one is still a valeo? the green boot. all the non-oem valeo csc's have that exact boot on them. The bearing on the front is also a sure giveway as valeo has those custom ordered for them(obviously i'm not talking about the sleeve on the face).

I know my CSC's/HTB's and being that it is a valeo it probably still has their standard .050 fluid entry port on the inside of the hydraulic cylinder liner.

I hate to burst your bubble, but you are 100% Wrong on everything you just said here, I guess you don't know as much as you think you do.

NewYorkJon34 · 03-09-2011, 06:42 AM

so is the zspeed set-up the way to go? I just want to be able to install a new clutch and not have to worry about the damn csc breaking.

ChrisSlicks · 03-09-2011, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34

so is the zspeed set-up the way to go? I just want to be able to install a new clutch and not have to worry about the damn csc breaking.

If you are installing a new clutch (which technically requires a new CSC anyway) then this currently seems like the best option on the market. It's been for sale for a while on the 350 sites and people seem happy, time will tell how happy but it appears several times better than stock.

It would also appear that spddracer either works for Zspeed or is closely affiliated.

1slow370 · 03-10-2011, 03:14 AM

so tell me then why does it look EXACTLY like valeo p/n 804534?

your wrong

Edit: MUhahahahaha

Spddracer · 03-10-2011, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370

so tell me then why does it look EXACTLY like vale o p/n 804534?

your wrong

Edit: MUhahahahaha

You're still wrong, Let me try this again

NOT MADE BY VALEO.

1slow370 · 03-11-2011, 02:28 AM

prove it because it sure looks like it is. oh and iff its a sachs bearing they actually make parts similar to valeo.

Edit: It does appear to be the sachs interchange part for the same valeo number i posted, meaning same sh!t different pile. I would say take it apart and see for your self but the sachs ones don't come apart easily because they don't use a snap ring on the end. I could be a real douche and say everyone go out and buy a 2000 saab 9-3 oem csc from autozone fab up an aluminum adapter plate and buy the lines and fittings off summit but it probably is easier to just buy the zspeed one. either way you can't tell me its better than this bad azz mofo

Is that thin black ring in the center of the clips in the bearing plastic? if yes that is the front of the piston

Spddracer · 03-11-2011, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34

so is the zspeed set-up the way to go? I just want to be able to install a new clutch and not have to worry about the damn csc breaking.

Yes

Joe@ZSpeed · 03-11-2011, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370

prove it because it sure looks like it is. oh and iff its a sachs bearing they actually make parts similar to valeo.

Is that thin black ring in the center of the clips in the bearing plastic? if yes that is the front of the piston

I will verify that it is not plastic for you, It is not a Sachs or Valeo nor is it the slave you think, If you are going to make a slave, Please go ahead and get it done for everyone, In the meantime, we would appreciate it if you leave our products out of your assumptions.

We worked very hard on this set-up to make sure everything is perfect and it would last.

The HD Slave kit we offer has proven itself in many cars, in drift events, drag racing, street use with many different clutch set-ups for over a year now.

NewYorkJon34 · 03-11-2011, 09:42 AM

Joe, which clutch/flywheel set-up would you recommend to use with your kit? It is a street driven car that I plan on supercharging (450-500hp)

1slow370 · 03-12-2011, 02:56 AM

alright i'm done beating the dead horse (it has to be LUK then, or a chinese repop) The modified PTT Trimax should be done some time around just after i'm done saving up for an uprev tuner license, and finishing up the vvel project this spring.

BOLIO 671 · 03-12-2011, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34

so is the zspeed set-up the way to go? I just want to be able to install a new clutch and not have to worry about the damn csc breaking.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spddracer

Yes

BOLIO 671 · 03-12-2011, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe@ZSpeed

I will verify that it is not plastic for you, It is not a Sachs or Valeo nor is it the slave you think, If you are going to make a slave, Please go ahead and get it done for everyone, In the meantime, we would appreciate it if you leave our products out of your assumptions.

We worked very hard on this set-up to make sure everything is perfect and it would last.

The HD Slave kit we offer has proven itself in many cars, in drift events, drag racing, street use with many different clutch set-ups for over a year now.

Straight from the man himself....Like I mentioned in my last post...No Plastic....even my friend who is a tech for Nissan that helped me install the Zspped HD Slave when installing my clutch was impressed by the craftsmanship of Zspeed's HD Slave Kit.

Trust me....Zspeed's HD Slave kit is a lot better than the our stock CSC....We all know from posts here on the forum that our stock CSC is crap, but when you get to see it for your own eyes and compare it to Zspeed's HD Slave, you see the difference in the quality between the two...

Besides...Zspeed has a warranty on the HD Slave kit, which tells you a lot about the confidence that they have on this product...Zspeed HD Slave FTW!!!!!!

Joe@ZSpeed · 03-12-2011, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34

Joe, which clutch/flywheel set-up would you recommend to use with your kit? It is a street driven car that I plan on supercharging (450-500hp)

For the clutch I would choose the Southbend DXD Endurance stage 4 or I can custom build a DXD stage 2 to hold the power. These are both amazing street kits and last a very long time.

The flywheel would need to be your personal choice, The Southend doesn't make the rattle noise like the lighter units do but they are also on the heavier side, about 26lbs.
You can go with a lighter unit with these kits like ACT, we have most of them in stock with the exception of JWT.

Thanks

NewYorkJon34 · 03-12-2011, 08:38 AM

I know RCZ had the southbend/fidanza set-up, I'll ask him how his experience with it is. What about the spec 2 clutch, any good?

Zat_Zuma · 03-12-2011, 10:09 AM

I've used the JWT light flywheel on a 07 HR and loved the quick revving aspects of it. But I didn't like the rattle or the difficultly of rev-matching on downshifts (before SRM) Plus the problems of shifting before I knew about Z-Speeds CSC bearing. Plus the RPM doesn't hold well with the lighter flywheel and one must shift faster to hit the rev points on gear changes.

This time around I wanted something more reliable and quieter and with a heavier flywheel to help with up-shifts/downshifting and the 4.08 gears. I went with the Stage 4 clutch offering and a CSC bearing cap. This spring I will be updating to the Z-Speed CSC kit and predict to have a trouble free service life.

Glad to see your a vendor now Joe. Welcome to the forum

03-10-2011, 03:14 AM	#109 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	so tell me then why does it look EXACTLY like valeo p/n 804534? your wrong Edit: MUhahahahaha __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50 Last edited by 1slow370; 03-10-2011 at 03:21 AM.

03-11-2011, 02:28 AM	#111 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	prove it because it sure looks like it is. oh and iff its a sachs bearing they actually make parts similar to valeo. Edit: It does appear to be the sachs interchange part for the same valeo number i posted, meaning same sh!t different pile. I would say take it apart and see for your self but the sachs ones don't come apart easily because they don't use a snap ring on the end. I could be a real douche and say everyone go out and buy a 2000 saab 9-3 oem csc from autozone fab up an aluminum adapter plate and buy the lines and fittings off summit but it probably is easier to just buy the zspeed one. either way you can't tell me its better than this bad azz mofo Is that thin black ring in the center of the clips in the bearing plastic? if yes that is the front of the piston __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50 Last edited by 1slow370; 03-11-2011 at 04:34 AM.

03-12-2011, 02:56 AM	#115 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	alright i'm done beating the dead horse (it has to be LUK then, or a chinese repop) The modified PTT Trimax should be done some time around just after i'm done saving up for an uprev tuner license, and finishing up the vvel project this spring. __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

03-12-2011, 10:09 AM	#120 (permalink)
Zat_Zuma A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Edmonton, Alberta ...eh Posts: 1,171 Drives: 2017 Touring auto Rep Power: 19	I've used the JWT light flywheel on a 07 HR and loved the quick revving aspects of it. But I didn't like the rattle or the difficultly of rev-matching on downshifts (before SRM) Plus the problems of shifting before I knew about Z-Speeds CSC bearing. Plus the RPM doesn't hold well with the lighter flywheel and one must shift faster to hit the rev points on gear changes. This time around I wanted something more reliable and quieter and with a heavier flywheel to help with up-shifts/downshifting and the 4.08 gears. I went with the Stage 4 clutch offering and a CSC bearing cap. This spring I will be updating to the Z-Speed CSC kit and predict to have a trouble free service life. Glad to see your a vendor now Joe. Welcome to the forum __________________ [B]2009 & 2017 370Z Touring Sport Autos SOLD

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NewYorkJon34 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 3,041 Drives: 09 Fairlady Z Rep Power: 1066	so is the zspeed set-up the way to go? I just want to be able to install a new clutch and not have to worry about the damn csc breaking.

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03-12-2011, 08:38 AM	#119 (permalink)
NewYorkJon34 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 3,041 Drives: 09 Fairlady Z Rep Power: 1066	I know RCZ had the southbend/fidanza set-up, I'll ask him how his experience with it is. What about the spec 2 clutch, any good?