Yes but those cars are still manuals. They have something a 370z automatic does not, and are missing something that a 370z automatic does have. That makes all the difference.

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Your mother enjoyed it when I smacked her around the bedroom

You banged her too? She digs Tiggers for sure. Thought she hated Italians. It's all good though. I share.

May hate Italians but she loved the Italian sausage :tup:

Nothing but queers here now
 

This is exactly why I no longer spend time here.........all that do are fags with their ATs........

trust me we don't want idiots like you here.

thought we ran you off for good last time.

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:gtfo2: with that non-confrontational :bs:

I'm too old for that sh1t, JAR! Haha.


Sent by smoke signals.

I guess that makes sense considering you post on this forum using smoke signals :icon17:

Well I am a very fair and very opened minded person and would be defined as a Try :stirthepot:

I Try not to hurt anyone's feelings here but willing to Try anything :yum:

Hope that this was of help :rofl2::inoutroflpuke:

-Clifford :tiphat:

You would try AT?!?!? :eek:

Definitely the penis.

anyone down for AT........M? :yum:

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And that would be...?

A solid connection to the axle? Yes, the Z has full lockup after 2nd gear.

A Veloceter has a dual-clutch trans, and it is slow to change gears and performs poorly.

I guess I did need to revisit my "perceived manual-ness" point a bit after all...

Let's look at this another way: All "real" sports cars will soon be gone, except for older models.

So, either your view on this will change, you will stop buying new sports cars, because of their lack of purity, and/or you will eventually baffle and annoy your kids or grandkids about why their lame (but likely very fast and less polluting) cars sorely need an extra pedal to matter.

If Jeremy Clarkson, commentator, car aficionado, and all around nob could learn to stop complaining bout "flappy paddles", then anyone can...

honestly if someone in here hasn't driven the 370 7AT their opinion is no where near valid......at all.

I've driven many paddle shifted ATs and most are fuckin garbage. the Z's is actually really good.

AT > MT :stirthepot:

Put it this way, IMO if you never track then 7AT is great for city driving...

But for track, 6MT gives the most control

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Have you ever tracked a 370Z with a 7AT? What kind of control is it missing? I can't think of anytime on the track that a MT would have made things better. I will give you they are cheaper to upgrade but that's not performance.

I mean, the 6MT clearly will have more precise shifts and rev matching. Im not saying its faster at all but definitely more precise with gearing.

Especially so, when the car is presented with a bunch of constant feedback/shifting/braking/accel the 6MT is more precise just based on how a manual tranny works vs automatic....now if the Z had the GTR tranny would be different.

But yeah, its not any faster...and definitely more for fun and driving pleasure than anything.

Also, 6MT gets all the bitches and hoes and gets panties wet lol

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Lol,I'm married with kids so the bitches and hoes thing doesn't matter to me! The 7AT also has the rev match but what kind of MT purest would use technology like rev matching? You don't want the fun of heal toeing? There is nothing sloppy about this 7AT if it's tuned right.


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I'm not agreeing, just find it funny. So, hold off on the flame throwers

Blasphemy! Hoes always matter?

Thats exactly what I meant BTW - I'll reuse your term "sloppy"...I didnt mean rev matching, mine is turned off. The AT generally will have a bit more 'slop'

Then again, I havent driven a properly built up 7AT so I cant say.

In the end of the day 6MT is all about fun...welp, plus the bitches and all! lol

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The fact that you came so close to hitting the nail on the head despite your derision and changing from boutique cars to a mass produced econo box to attempt to justify your failed premise is comical.

The part that your Z does not have is a clutch. The part that the cars you listed do not have is a torque converter. Many, like myself, do not mind paddles when they are mated to a properly clutched transmission. A torque converter is not a clutch. That in itself makes it laughable when the "well the GTR has paddle shifters" argument is made. It shows ignorance as to what each car's transmission is comprised of.

I have no issue with ATs other than I dislike the feel and drawbacks of a torque converter. If that's what you want to drive then that's your perogative and that's great. Just quit making factually incorrect justifications as to why you do.

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Forget heal toeing - let's move on to hoe'ing - heading over to the NSFW section. Later!

this is the worst manual argument post yet. :faceapalm:

they have the exact same rev match.

if manuals are so awesome because they're pure and enthusiast's choice why would you use any other form of computer aided shifting?

also panties get wet looking at the car before they even see what tranny it has on the inside. any real Z enthusiasts knows that :tiphat:

I LOVE MY PADDLESHIFTERS!!!!! lol

Frankly, I think a automatic would be fine for racing. I just find an automatic boring in normal day to day driving. I can always get a little enjoyment rowing my own gears in the most mundane driving. Probably why the rev match feature has been turned off since the day I bought the car.

I guess you missed my previous post. I wasn't talking about the synchro rev feauture, I dont use that but I can see it being very helpful for some people.

I meant the AT has more slop when rev matching, due to torque converter and no clutch its not direct

Btw the 7AT rev matching is not an added feature, its just how an AT tranny works, it'll rev match your downshifts...my 2000 Maxima 4AT does that lol...and with a torque converter its not all that great. Its NOT the same thing as the SynchroRev on the 6MT, which is actually useful technology for many people that is appearing on many new BMW's and stuff

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I've tried it on both cars and feels pretty much the exact same in both.

AT - panties stay on
MT - panties come off

:stirthepot:

This is true. They may still be wet with the Auto-magic but not coming off. Once a 6MT stick is seen panties are off quick and hoes are basically cumming on the spot

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you people are such fuckin idiots :facepalm:

this is why people hate on Z's

Lmao

Thanks man! Very complimentary.

People who hate on Z's get walked = simple

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wait.......what?

there's many cars that the owners could hate a Z who could also walk a Z.

Why so serious? Lol yes that is true..

Just having some fun here, bit of sarcasm here n there

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well its hard to take anyone serious who think the MT is better........

Lol! Thats a good one. Its all subjective really, those who got the MT like the MT, and those who have AT clearly love their AT. Everyone loves their own car, and choice they made...

But really you cant argue the fun of MT, unless you were born after 1990 lol

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Which transmission do you feel operates at a higher running temperature?

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not sure but I assume they would run around the same temps.

I think typical operating temps are 190-210 F

I'm going to SWAG this and say that the AT probably has a higher temp. That's based on how finicky an AT can be when it gets warm. Heat seems to be the biggest thing that kills an AT, so that's my SWAG... :tiphat: