We're talking about the transmission. The clutch is outside the transmission. Do we need to grab a diagram from how it works from you so you'll understand? :stirthepot:

its still a main component that needs to be change to handle the additional power.

Also, a CSC replacement is not that hard and not very expensive either. Thats the beauty of working on a manual tranny. You can always get a new clutch, flywheel, csc, etc...

Good luck working on your automatic.

I'm not any less safe with a 6MT.

You don't change gears through a corner, that's a big no-no. Always two hands on the wheel when cornering.

(Unless you're drifting, then everything is thrown out the window)

Good points. I replaced the slave cylinder with the Z1 in my garage for $400. No prior experience. Even the buddy I enlisted to lead the project had never actually removed a transmission himself. Two full days over a weekend and no issues whatsoever. I would want some different tools to do it again, but we managed with just a floor jack, some jack stands, and a $120 HF transmission jack.

That's cuz you drive a 'MAN'ual

You mean like that crappy flex plate that comes in your shitty AT? We can go back and forth one for one on all components "OUTSIDE" the transmission but if we compare just the transmission itself there is no comparison on the ability to hold power. MT >>> AT

still doesn't make it a better option. stock for stock it'll fail just the same with added power. might take a little more but it will fail.

It'll hold at least an extra 100wtq before failing. That's a huge percentage and not 'fail just the same with added power'. It'll hold more power before it fails. That's a win!

I never argue the points that are clearly in the ATs favor but you always seem to argue about the points that are clearly in the MTs favor. :shakes head:

I just like to argue haven't we established this already? act like you've been here before lol :bowrofl:

And you failed. If that were true you would have argued with my last statement.

I WIN!!!

Thats the point, its a few hundred bucks and some DIY and your 6MT is good again. I dont know why people get so worried about the CSC thing, its just not a big deal.

Beats trying to fix an automatic. And yeah, shifting mid turn is a nono. But you may feel different about that since auto puts power down differently.

dammit.

:shakes head:

Unless it goes out in the middle of Summer in Phoenix and you're in traffic, in your nice dress clothes and you have to push your car out of the middle lane through said traffic...

That's my fear.

My fear was driving out to do an inspection at some random Texas Parks Wildlife Management Area out in the middle of nowhere in West Texas and having it fail on some back country road with no traffic or cell service. Glad I don't have to worry about that any more :tup: :driving:

it can happen in any car. few years back we had an automatic bimmer that conked out on the freeway. middle lane, rush hour morning traffic. yea... i have never been so scared in a car in my entire life.

A big part of the drone also comes from a 7AT vs a 6MT. The AT is always putting the car into a gear where drone is massively present on the FI.

wait..........people allow the AT to shift for them?

i guess i am using mine incorrectly.

Using the paddles can be fun... until you use them to downshift. Then the delay makes it less fun. The auto does a very good job if left to its own devices, I find.

Uh oh...

........the delay?

the auto downshifts just as fast if not faster than any and all manual drivers.


also the auto left to "it's own devices" is like a special olympics kid. it does a good job and gets a medal but in manual mode is where it shines.

I'm talking about the delay from when you demand a shift to a lower gear (click the paddle) to when it actually does it.

not sure how much you know about the car/tranny but it's almost instantly.


the delay between the paddle/stick movement and gear changing is very fast.

You like to leave the D in too?

It feels so good.



Though, I like to finger the paddles too sometimes, so I take the D out.

yea your car is incorrect :rofl2:

that's how babies are made if you don't pull out.

uh really? you know it's sort of slow (even with SRM) to downshift in manual's... like maybe 0.5 seconds. a lot of the newer paddle shift cars can do that in half the time.

maybe you need to tune your car and not have throttled gas input

Not if there's nothing to seed. :tup:


Though, I just play with my stick now. Tight leather grip. Six gears, three pedals.

It's fun.

I know auto vs manual both have their pros and cons. An auto is faster, Yes.
I personally get bored driving an automatic to the point where id rather have someone drive me around. I feel more involved and focused with a manual, its personal and gratifying. id rather battle up hill traffic in the city with a manual any day over a auto. just saying from working 6 years in the city driving different cars/truck with manual trannys
blue dancing guy:ughdance:

Since the URL expired on the earlier pic, I'll repost this:

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ahhhhh it's been awhile. looks like its gonna be a fun day with you homos :stirthepot:

here we go again

:yum:

I know auto vs manual both have their pros and cons. An auto is faster, Yes.
I personally get bored driving an automatic to the point where id rather have someone drive me around. I feel more involved and focused with a manual, its personal and gratifying. id rather battle up hill traffic in the city with a manual any day over a auto. just saying from working 6 years in the city driving different cars/truck with manual trannys






You nailed it...........That is what it is all about ! That is why you drive A SPORTS CAR !

:yum: look who came back to get smacked around a bit more

:facepalm:

Oh god not again

lol

You want to try to slap me around ???????? No QUEER can slap me around !

Good grief. Drive what you're gonna drive.

AT is fine. It shifts quick and the driver is still engaged in the driving process when using the paddles or stick.

MT is lots of fun, for sure, but not exactly rocket science.

To each their own.

Hey! That's MY queer you are talking about. Go get your own. :icon17:

It's simple:

Automatic = Girl/Gay

Manual = Man/Awesome Girl



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Uh... but... https://www.carthrottle.com/post/the...anual-ferrari/

That was some time ago. Unless something changed that I missed, three pedals are officially now less likely to be found in a "true" or "pure" sports car.

See further Alpha 4C, Lamborghini, the GT-R and so on.

Porsche did a limited release "purists" 911 I seem to recall...

I'll forgo revisiting in detail an observation I made some time ago that "perceived manual-ness" was seemingly more important than actual mechanical design, resultant performance, or actual (vs. perceived) control.