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Luciano13 03-18-2015 07:12 PM

For the record, I love auto!
The only reason I bought my Z is because it was Canadian model(as I live in Canada)
A 40th anniversary fully loaded with every possible option available at the time for our cars.

U don't believe me.............. just ask my wife!! 4 years+ and she still hounds me that its manual:shakes head:

Guys...........listen to your wife if you want to buy cars:tiphat:

Luciano13 03-18-2015 07:13 PM

better yet...........
listen to your wife if you want to modify your cars:roflpuke2:

JWillis72 03-18-2015 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luciano13 (Post 3141871)
Again......................



Same car, same driver, all stock...........manual wins every time:driving:

Unless the driver cant' drive manual:stirthepot:


Why do you say that? What is the advantage?


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sandersd 03-18-2015 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3141887)
Why do you say that? What is the advantage?


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Understand how a torque converter works and you will answer your question. Automatic transmission w/ converter is not to be confused with an auto-shifting dual clutch manual - that would beat a manual shift manual transmission every time.

Nut_N_Much 03-18-2015 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandersd (Post 3141891)
Understand how a torque converter works and you will answer your question. Automatic transmission w/ converter is not to be confused with an auto-shifting dual clutch manual - that would beat a manual shift manual transmission every time.

:iagree:
Especially when you tune the line pressures in the 7AT trans. Quick, Solid shift..

FPenvy 03-19-2015 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3141795)
That the MT is faster! I guess my car isn't a good car to compare because we have adjusted the 7AT and its supercharged, but I promise you can't shift that fast.


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Quote:

Originally Posted by Luciano13 (Post 3141803)
Same car, same driver.....
1/4= auto
Road= manual

What is the bet??

my money is on the AT for both.

i'll drive for the 1/4

willis can take the track portion.

Luciano....pick your team :stirthepot:

FPenvy 03-19-2015 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luciano13 (Post 3141851)
Lets just think about your statement for a second...........??
flying hot into a corner ok?? you're at 150mph.....?
you need to drop your speed to 60mph......?

Here is the ultimate question.....???

Which transmission will get you there quicker..........??

1) hard breaking in an auto............???
2) hard breaking with hard down shifting in a manual...........???

The only ones that can answer this are the one's that have experienced this....

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NO FN WAY AN AUTO CAN DO THIS

you realize you can down shift the auto as well right?

it has the same rev match system as the manual.

i'll put money on that the AT can come down in speed just as fast if not faster than the 6mt.

JARblue 03-19-2015 07:32 AM

Just because you use facts doesn't mean you're right! :mad:

FPenvy 03-19-2015 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3142227)
Just because you use facts doesn't mean you're right! :mad:

sorry buddy. sometimes you just gotta let the facts and figures beat out people hard on for a manual transmission lol

it's 2015 and the MT is no longer the dominant factor in a performance car and people just cant handle it.

(insert joker everyone loses their mind meme here....blocked at work :( )

Bulletz4break 03-19-2015 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3142239)
sorry buddy. sometimes you just gotta let the facts and figures beat out people hard on for a manual transmission lol

it's 2015 and the MT is no longer the dominant factor in a performance car and people just cant handle it.

(insert joker everyone loses their mind meme here....blocked at work :( )

Has the automatic transmission changed since 2009?

FPenvy 03-19-2015 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bulletz4break (Post 3142310)
Has the automatic transmission changed since 2009?

not that i'm aware of no. the only thing that may have changed is the TCM tuning from factory.

but any person tuning your car with uprev can adjust the tranny line pressure settings to make shifts harder.

ayrton88 03-19-2015 10:00 AM

I'm firmly in the manual camp as far as preference and don't ever plan on buying an auto. That said, if a manual was faster around a road course, F1 would still be using one. Granted they aren't slush boxes, but Formula 1 started dropping regular H pattern manuals in 1989. As far as a drag race goes, who gives a crap how fast a car is in a straight line.

Luciano13 03-19-2015 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3142215)
my money is on the AT for both.

i'll drive for the 1/4

willis can take the track portion.

Luciano....pick your team :stirthepot:

I think we all know the answer here:tup:

FPenvy 03-19-2015 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luciano13 (Post 3142353)
I think we all know the answer here:tup:

yes the answer is AT is better than MT.

/end thread

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Akurei 03-19-2015 10:09 AM

Automatics are awesome, don't get me wrong. However, owning an automatic is like that last interview with one of the Telsa employee's. "My self-driving cars may lead to human driver ban, says Tesla's Musk". Talk about fall asleep behind the wheel. At least with a Manual, I can stay awake.

Shotta 03-19-2015 10:13 AM

Put up your hand if you are a manual transmission driver and care that a transmission that doesn't require you to touch it other than to shift from Park to Drive (lol) can shift 1/10th of a second faster than a human. Sounds like a whole lotta fun to me, NOT!

FPenvy 03-19-2015 10:13 AM

I love when manual drivers think that the AT owners only put the car in "D" and drive. then go on with comment like above about "falling asleep"

:facepalm:

my car is never in "D", I make every shift, I shift more than manual drivers most likely, and I know that gearbox inside and out.

if the argument is engagement with the car go talk to the old guys who own a Z with a AT. that's about the only group it applies to. the argument is null and void. time to find another excuse MT boys.

Shotta 03-19-2015 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3142371)
I love when manual drivers think that the AT owners only put the car in "D" and drive. then go on with comment like above about "falling asleep"

:facepalm:

my car is never in "D", I make every shift, I shift more than manual drivers most likely, and I know that gearbox inside and out.

if the argument is engagement with the car go talk to the old guys who own a Z with a AT. that's about the only group it applies to. the argument is null and void. time to find another excuse MT boys.

Shift more than a manual guy, hahahahaha, thanks for the laugh.

Akurei 03-19-2015 10:24 AM

I wasn't trying to be mean. I'm just old school manual. I went from automatics to manual and couldn't be happier. Everyone has their preference though

FPenvy 03-19-2015 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shotta (Post 3142385)
Shift more than a manual guy, hahahahaha, thanks for the laugh.

laugh? you're an idiot then.

AT cannot skip gears like a MT so when I downshift coming to stops I drop through each gear except never doing a 2-1 downshift. that isn't good for the AT.

so technically I do shift more than you and also when on the highway I have 1 more gear to go up into.

again a MT boy has failed.

JWillis72 03-19-2015 10:37 AM

There is way to much traffic here this time of year so I use the D in the street. I also use it at the end of cool down laps but never when I'm on the track having fun.


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Shotta 03-19-2015 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3142393)
laugh? you're an idiot then.

AT cannot skip gears like a MT so when I downshift coming to stops I drop through each gear except never doing a 2-1 downshift. that isn't good for the AT.

so technically I do shift more than you and also when on the highway I have 1 more gear to go up into.

again a MT boy has failed.

Wow dude don't get your little panties in a bunch, this whole f'n thread is a joke.

You auto tards gotta learn to stop taking things so personally, idiots!

FPenvy 03-19-2015 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shotta (Post 3142480)
Wow dude don't get your little panties in a bunch, this whole f'n thread is a joke.

You auto tards gotta learn to stop taking things so personally, idiots!

not personal just making sure the MT queers know the facts since none of you really do.

just go off of what you think you know and sound dumb.

ever notice the informed MT drivers say they like both and how good the AT is but personal choice they still went MT?

:tiphat:

JARblue 03-19-2015 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3142483)
not personal just making sure the MT queers know the facts since none of you really do.

just go off of what you think you know and sound dumb.

ever notice the informed MT drivers say they like both and how good the AT is but personal choice they still went MT?

:tiphat:

Get off your high dead horse you AT driving pussy :horse:





:p

FPenvy 03-19-2015 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3142514)
Get off your high dead horse you AT driving pussy :horse:


:p

you know you want me inside of you :yum:

FERRARI 03-19-2015 01:44 PM

AT drivers dont like facts....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3142227)
Just because you use facts doesn't mean you're right! :mad:


AT drivers dont like facts....that is why they tried to hide the poll that began this thread when they started to fall behind in the poll....You can tell they can not state their side well because they are starting to call names........Like QUEERS

FPenvy 03-19-2015 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FERRARI (Post 3142635)
AT drivers dont like facts....that is why they tried to hide the poll that began this thread when they started to fall behind in the poll....You can tell they can not state their side well because they are starting to call names........Like QUEERS

a. you have it backwards. I gave facts and the MT faithful got mad because they have nothing. well they have CSC failure but hey don't want to take any low blows.

b. queer isn't name calling unless it's referring to you blowing dudes. do you know what the definition of queer is my friend? if not here's a refresher

:tiphat:


Definition of QUEER


1
a : worthless, counterfeit <queer money>

b : questionable, suspicious

2
a : differing in some odd way from what is usual or normal

b (1) : eccentric, unconventional (2) : mildly insane

c : absorbed or interested to an extreme or unreasonable degree : obsessed

d (1) often disparaging : homosexual (2) sometimes offensive : gay 4b



i'll go with thinking that the MT is better than the AT in a Z is queer (mildly insane)

or that you're statements against the AT are queer (questionable, suspicious of your knowledge about the Z)

good day sir.

:tiphat:

FERRARI 03-19-2015 02:14 PM

You are the expert
 
I will not argue with you.......you are the **** sucking expert !

FPenvy 03-19-2015 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FERRARI (Post 3142676)
I will not argue with you.......you are the **** sucking expert !

again another fact for the AT side. :yum:

:owned:

the fact that I just destroyed you with a dictionary definition rebuttal and all you can come back with is that I suck peep.......it's laughable at best.

run along my son. come back when you are ready to do battle.

for now :gtfo2:

Haboob 03-19-2015 02:41 PM

Pretty sure my next car is going to be a DCT flappy-paddle box.

I love my three pedals, but you just can't compete with the precision of a flappy-paddle box (at lest with a DCT).

That said, AT also never misses a shift. :wtf2:

Tadpole 03-19-2015 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 3142702)
Pretty sure my next car is going to be a DCT flappy-paddle box.

I love my three pedals, but you just can't compete with the precision of a flappy-paddle box (at lest with a DCT).

That said, AT also never misses a shift. :wtf2:

Now we found someone talking some sense!! :tup:

Tigger 03-19-2015 03:34 PM

What's the point of this thread?

Haboob 03-19-2015 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tigger (Post 3142767)
What's the point of this thread?

To make applesauce.

Tigger 03-19-2015 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 3142775)
To make applesauce.

I like applesauce.

Haboob 03-19-2015 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tigger (Post 3142779)
I like applesauce.

Everyone likes applesauce. :yum:

Luciano13 03-19-2015 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3142483)
not personal just making sure the MT queers know the facts since none of you really do.

just go off of what you think you know and sound dumb.

ever notice the informed MT drivers say they like both and how good the AT is but personal choice they still went MT?

:tiphat:

Now now lets get this straight;)
For the guys that say MT is best..... Don't know what they are saying. MT is more fun to drive in the streets of our cities and townships.
If you get the best auto tranny available....... Yes! MT will never have a chance(with the same driver)

I guess the 7A for our Z has the semi manual available..... So i will agree that a semi auto 370z is just as fun as an MT 370z:tiphat:

JARblue 03-19-2015 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 3142702)
you just can't compete with the precision of a flappy-paddle box (at lest with a DCT).

That said, AT also never misses a shift. :wtf2:

:facepalm:


:gtfo2:

Haboob 03-19-2015 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3142810)
:facepalm:


:gtfo2:

Never!

I'm just sick of sitting in traffic, clutch in, clutch out, clutch in, clutch out, sit for a bit, clutch in, clutch out... over, and over, and over, and over, only to ever get beyond second gear once.

I hate driving anymore.

Where's the chauffeur option?

jwick 03-19-2015 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 3142781)
Everyone likes applesauce. :yum:

http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra...mages/puke.gif

Applesauce sucks

MT still > AT:stirthepot:

JARblue 03-19-2015 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 3142814)
Never!

I'm just sick of sitting in traffic, clutch in, clutch out, clutch in, clutch out, sit for a bit, clutch in, clutch out... over, and over, and over, and over, only to ever get beyond second gear once.

I hate driving anymore.

Oh bitch bitch bitch bitch :rolleyes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 3142814)
Where's the chauffeur option?

I think you have to get the 'valet tune'. It's like auto-pilot :tup:


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