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MR.nismo 03-16-2015 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Memphis370Z (Post 3138231)
http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...-problems.html

http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...h-problem.html

http://www.the370z.com/nismo-370z/82...ues-nismo.html

http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...-failures.html

It is easier to replace a clutch than fixing an automatic transmission. :driving:
http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-w...r-problem.html

http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...-clueless.html

http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...blems-csc.html

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-w...-problems.html

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...c-failure.html

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...-warranty.html

http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...c-failure.html

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-w...-problems.html

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...del-years.html

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...c-fix-out.html

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...csc-story.html

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-w...ideo-help.html

Etc.

My friend, it is easier and cheaper to replace a clutch than fixing or replacing an automatic transmission. :driving:

Memphis370Z 03-16-2015 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MR.nismo (Post 3138886)
My friend, it is easier and cheaper to replace a clutch than fixing or replacing an automatic transmission. :driving:

I hear ya. I've replaced plenty of clutches in my time. I was merely pointing out that there seems to be a consistently ongoing issue with the 370's MT. As I've mentioned previously in this thread, until getting my Z last year, all I drove were MTs for 30 years. My choice was mainly practical, since my Z is a DD and I drive in a lot of stop-and-go traffic. That noted, having made the switch, I don't regret it, as the AT shifts quick/hard enough for my needs. As far as durability goes, I won't go FI, so I don't foresee any issues from "normal" driving, unlike the folks that chose the MT version.

At the end of the day, its a good car, whether you are rowing gears or monkeying with flappy paddles.

Tadpole 03-16-2015 05:47 AM

Quit making the manual boys feel better Memphis. We must break their will. :roflpuke2:

FPenvy 03-16-2015 07:47 AM

I don't check the forum for a weekend and all you bitches let these manual homo's take the lead? wtf?!


you're all better than that.

i'm back for the party. lets go! :yum:

JARblue 03-16-2015 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3139067)
I don't check the forum for a weekend and all you bitches let these manual homo's take the lead? wtf?!


you're all better than that.

i'm back for the party. lets go! :yum:

:gtfo2:

Did you spend all weekend on the porch shouting at the 'dang kids', old man? You probably just have AT because your knees are giving out. Or maybe your momma dressed you up like a girl growing up, and that's why you can't drive a manual :stirthepot:

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I'm older :(

My knees are giving out :(

My parents wanted me to be a girl :crying:

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But I still drive a manual :stirthepot: http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra...es/shifter.gif


and my mom did not dress me up like a girl ... I did that on my own lol

FPenvy 03-16-2015 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3139132)
:gtfo2:

Did you spend all weekend on the porch shouting at the 'dang kids', old man? You probably just have AT because your knees are giving out. Or maybe your momma dressed you up like a girl growing up, and that's why you can't drive a manual :stirthepot:

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I'm older :(

My knees are giving out :(

My parents wanted me to be a girl :crying:

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But I still drive a manual :stirthepot: http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra...es/shifter.gif


and my mom did not dress me up like a girl ... I did that on my own lol

sports ruined my knees....

that or all the blowies....

and i was a mistake lol :bowrofl:

but no i was out all weekend plus you know i don't come around often on the weekends ever.

Memphis370Z 03-16-2015 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Tadpole (Post 3138962)
Quit making the manual boys feel better Memphis. We must break their will. :roflpuke2:


I know, I know...

After I posted those links regarding all of the problems MTs have had, it was crickets in here.






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Memphis370Z 03-16-2015 09:24 AM

I think I just figured out why AT Zs tend to have higher mileage than those with MT - we're actually out DRIVING our cars, while the MT folks are busy WORKING on theirs.


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Dragon_Ball_Z 03-16-2015 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Memphis370Z (Post 3139163)
I think I just figured out why AT Zs tend to have higher mileage than those with MT - we're actually out DRIVING our cars, while the MT folks are busy WORKING on theirs.


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Or we drive the car like it should be driven...


-Raj

Memphis370Z 03-16-2015 09:27 AM

Understood. Connected and engaged, but slower.


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Dragon_Ball_Z 03-16-2015 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Memphis370Z (Post 3139169)
Understood. Connected and engaged, but slower.


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True on connected and engaged, but not always slower.


-Raj

JARblue 03-16-2015 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Memphis370Z (Post 3139163)
I think I just figured out why AT Zs tend to have higher mileage than those with MT - we're actually out DRIVING our cars, while the MT folks are busy WORKING on theirs.

2011 with over 64K miles here. I had two days (one weekend) of downtime to replace my perfectly functioning OEM CSC with Z1's kit with the help of a knowledgeable friend. Other than that, I've had virtually no downtime with the exception of routine maintenance and a headliner replacement done under warranty.

Let's also not forget that 90st, who is the forum's resident highest mileage Z owner, has over 200K miles on his 2009 6MT :stirthepot:

FPenvy 03-16-2015 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Memphis370Z (Post 3139163)
I think I just figured out why AT Zs tend to have higher mileage than those with MT - we're actually out DRIVING our cars, while the MT folks are busy WORKING on theirs.


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i pulled my Z back out finally for a bday drive to work and she cracked 40k right before pulling into the parking lot lol

my mileage is that high but for the fact i only drive it 6-7 months a year its not bad for a 2009

Bulletz4break 03-16-2015 09:49 AM

Buying a sports car with an automatic tranny is what old men do. Hence the reason I couldn't find a used manual C6 Corvette in my area.

FPenvy 03-16-2015 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Bulletz4break (Post 3139184)
Buying a sports car with an automatic tranny is what old men do. Hence the reason I couldn't find a used manual C6 Corvette in my area.

hard to believe since Pittsburgh is the unofficial C6 capital of the world.

Bulletz4break 03-16-2015 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3139188)
hard to believe since Pittsburgh is the unofficial C6 capital of the world.

Year, Color, Mileage, were all also factors that came into play. I looked for about 6 months before deciding on the Z. Corvettes are mostly driven by older guys and they usually prefer an automatic transmission.

FPenvy 03-16-2015 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Bulletz4break (Post 3139193)
Year, Color, Mileage, were all also factors that came into play. I looked for about 6 months before deciding on the Z. Corvettes are mostly driven by older guys and they usually prefer an automatic transmission.

should have looked me up. i can find many cars locally.

and yes i looked int oC7's recently but i feel without an AARP card i can't own one yet.

now the Z06....maybe.

Bulletz4break 03-16-2015 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3139201)
should have looked me up. i can find many cars locally.

and yes i looked int oC7's recently but i feel without an AARP card i can't own one yet.

now the Z06....maybe.

It's all good I am happy with my Z, for now lol. It would definitely be nice to have more power though. I have been debating on ordering the Stillen supercharger kit. Both of my previous cars were 400 at the wheels so this thing feels slow.

C7s are sweet but I don't want to spend that much on a vehicle right now. I definitely hear you on the AARP card though :rofl2:

FPenvy 03-16-2015 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Bulletz4break (Post 3139215)
It's all good I am happy with my Z, for now lol. It would definitely be nice to have more power though. I have been debating on ordering the Stillen supercharger kit. Both of my previous cars were 400 at the wheels so this thing feels slow.

C7s are sweet but I don't want to spend that much on a vehicle right now. I definitely hear you on the AARP card though :rofl2:

don't go supercharger unless all you want is 400whp. if you ever want to get real power you'll need turbo/turbos. SC just doesn't seem worth it cost wise to me but if you're 7AT you wont need tranny upgrades with a weak SC lol

jwick 03-16-2015 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3139232)
don't go supercharger unless all you want is 400whp. if you ever want to get real power you'll need turbo/turbos. SC just doesn't seem worth it cost wise to me but if you're 7AT you wont need tranny upgrades with a weak SC lol


You know nobody has figured out how much power is required to break a MT. AT however is another story. :tiphat:

Bulletz4break 03-16-2015 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3139232)
don't go supercharger unless all you want is 400whp. if you ever want to get real power you'll need turbo/turbos. SC just doesn't seem worth it cost wise to me but if you're 7AT you wont need tranny upgrades with a weak SC lol

I think 400whp would be perfect on this car. I worry about long term reliability as I tend to drive my car hard. I would also be doing the instal myself and I would rather not have to pull the motor.

FPenvy 03-16-2015 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Bulletz4break (Post 3139267)
I think 400whp would be perfect on this car. I worry about long term reliability as I tend to drive my car hard. I would also be doing the instal myself and I would rather not have to pull the motor.

there's never enough power in any car :bowrofl:

its a crap shoot with the car's engine. some have blown 100% stock and others are pushing 15psi/650whp on e85 and stock block with no issues.

jwick 03-16-2015 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bulletz4break (Post 3139267)
I think 400whp would be perfect on this car. I worry about long term reliability as I tend to drive my car hard. I would also be doing the instal myself and I would rather not have to pull the motor.


You can do the TT install without pulling the motor. Not ideal but it can be done.

FPenvy 03-16-2015 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3139274)
You can do the TT install without pulling the motor. Not ideal but it can be done.

more or less the BP single kit is the easier version to install without dropping.

TT you can leave the block in but enjoy bloody knuckles lol

jwick 03-16-2015 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3139275)
more or less the BP single kit is the easier version to install without dropping.



TT you can leave the block in but enjoy bloody knuckles lol


True. After doing it I'm pretty positive I could knock it out in one weekend

Tadpole 03-16-2015 01:02 PM

I can't talk too bad about Jar. He is too close to me and might hunt me down and beat my azz.
You nailed two of the three things mentioned. I will let you guess Which two.

Bulletz4break 03-16-2015 05:28 PM

[QUOTE=FPenvy;3139271
its a crap shoot with the car's engine. some have blown 100% stock and others are pushing 15psi/650whp on e85 and stock block with no issues.[/QUOTE]

Thats not what I wanted to hear. I only have 6k miles on mine.

JWillis72 03-16-2015 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bulletz4break (Post 3139267)
I think 400whp would be perfect on this car. I worry about long term reliability as I tend to drive my car hard. I would also be doing the instal myself and I would rather not have to pull the motor.

I drive the crap out of mine at 418whp and love it. It's been on the car for 1 1/2 years and close to 20,000 miles now with a good chunk of that at the track. The only thing that's a real pain is keeping the car cool. The 370Z is hard to keep cool if you drive it hard.

jwick 03-16-2015 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3139728)
I drive the crap out of mine at 418whp and love it. It's been on the car for 1 1/2 years and close to 20,000 miles now with a good chunk of that at the track. The only thing that's a real pain is keeping the car cool. The 370Z is hard to keep cool if you drive it hard.


That's one of the benefits to owning a G. Having the grill introduces a ton more air to keep things cool. I consistently read 15-20deg cooler coolant temp than comparably equipped Z's.

JWillis72 03-16-2015 07:05 PM

Agreed, the Z really needs more air.


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Bulletz4break 03-16-2015 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3139728)
I drive the crap out of mine at 418whp and love it. It's been on the car for 1 1/2 years and close to 20,000 miles now with a good chunk of that at the track. The only thing that's a real pain is keeping the car cool. The 370Z is hard to keep cool if you drive it hard.

What kit do you have on your car?

JWillis72 03-17-2015 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Bulletz4break (Post 3140028)
What kit do you have on your car?

Stillen

FPenvy 03-17-2015 07:34 AM

hmmm a 7AT just got the first 10 sec 1/4 mile run.

:tiphat:

Tadpole 03-17-2015 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3140275)
hmmm a 7AT just got the first 10 sec 1/4 mile run.

:tiphat:

BUT HE IS NOT ENGAGED! ! :roflpuke2:

Come auto haters.....let's hear the excuses on this one.

FPenvy 03-17-2015 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tadpole (Post 3140571)
BUT HE IS NOT ENGAGED! ! :roflpuke2:

Come auto haters.....let's hear the excuses on this one.

personally I prefer the paddles for drag racing and keeping both hands on the wheel. slap stick is used in DD driving. in the vid the test driver was using the slap stick for the run.

jwick 03-17-2015 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Tadpole (Post 3140571)
BUT HE IS NOT ENGAGED! ! :roflpuke2:

Come auto haters.....let's hear the excuses on this one.

None of us ever claimed the manual is faster. That might have been true a couple decades ago but technology is much better today. The fact of the matter is a manual is more fun to drive than an auto.

FPenvy 03-17-2015 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3140584)
None of us ever claimed the manual is faster. That might have been true a couple decades ago but technology is much better today. The fact of the matter is a manual is more fun to drive than an auto.

I disagree.

JARblue 03-17-2015 02:31 PM

mt > at

jwick 03-17-2015 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3140586)
I disagree.


That's cuz you're a pansy

FPenvy 03-17-2015 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3140594)
That's cuz you're a pansy

bring it :stirthepot:


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