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11Thumper 02-28-2015 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3124299)
I knew that. But I also knew that the AT can't handle the torque, so they had to dial everything back. In the end the AT was at the same power levels as the MT :stirthepot:

:rofl2:

DOH! :excited:

MR.nismo 03-10-2015 12:46 AM

Since I have nothing better to say.....I would say that AT is a good deal when you have to scratch your testicles while driving. If your "junk" is clean enough then manual is the way to go.

Dragon_Ball_Z 03-10-2015 01:00 AM

Manual so you can actually feel connected with your car, learn your car, and know more about it. With an auto a computer has to do all the downshifting and upshifting, in a manual you have to do it, rev match and everything or SRM, but point being it helps you learn your car. Learning your car can give better times and make you a better driver :D

Tadpole 03-10-2015 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by rajmangal7 (Post 3133093)
Manual so you can actually feel connected with your car, learn your car, and know more about it. With an auto a computer has to do all the downshifting and upshifting, in a manual you have to do it, rev match and everything or SRM, but point being it helps you learn your car. Learning your car can give better times and make you a better driver :D

Better times at what? Better driver?? Do an autox and report back Mr stick.

FPenvy 03-10-2015 07:47 AM

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11Thumper 03-11-2015 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by rajmangal7 (Post 3133093)
Manual so you can actually feel connected with your car, learn your car, and know more about it. With an auto a computer has to do all the downshifting and upshifting, in a manual you have to do it, rev match and everything or SRM, but point being it helps you learn your car. Learning your car can give better times and make you a better driver :D

Yeah, ok bro...

My paddle shifters helped increase my Angry Birds score quite a bit. :tiphat:

FLUJOKE 03-11-2015 01:07 AM

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FERRARI 03-11-2015 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rajmangal7 (Post 3133093)
Manual so you can actually feel connected with your car, learn your car, and know more about it. With an auto a computer has to do all the downshifting and upshifting, in a manual you have to do it, rev match and everything or SRM, but point being it helps you learn your car. Learning your car can give better times and make you a better driver :D

You nailed it....but the AT drives will never learn that even if they wanted to because they don't even know what you are talking about............but real drivers do

FPenvy 03-11-2015 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by FERRARI (Post 3134943)
You nailed it....but the AT drives will never learn that even if they wanted to because they don't even know what you are talking about............but real drivers do

the transmission you have has nothing to do with being a "real driver".

idiots will say this, nothing more.

also for a guy with the screen name "FERRARI" you got balls talking about AT drivers. when was the last time a Ferrari came with an actual manual transmission aside from a very expensive special edition?

Dragon_Ball_Z 03-11-2015 02:13 PM

I mean there are real drivers that drive an automatic too, I never said they couldn't drive. To think auto drivers can't drive is stupidity. Wasn't my intended point earlier


-Raj

JWillis72 03-11-2015 03:02 PM

At Homestead Miami Speedway 10 days ago the fastest guy in my group was in a new Porsche GT3 , you can't get them in manual. The manual transmission is going to just be part of history soon. 10 years ago I would have never considered buying a sports car with a auto but now I may never buy another one that isn't auto.


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ayrton88 03-11-2015 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3135049)
At Homestead Miami Speedway 10 days ago the fastest guy in my group was in a new Porsche GT3 , you can't get them in manual. The manual transmission is going to just be part of history soon. 10 years ago I would have never considered buying a sports car with a auto but now I may never buy another one that isn't auto.


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Looks like I'll be buying used cars. I don't want my car shifting for me any more than I want it steering for me. Pretty soon that will be reality as well.

Tadpole 03-11-2015 05:24 PM

Let's all just call them manualmatics so both sides are happy. Put a little stick and a fake 3rd pedal for the ones who feel the need and call it a day

Dragon_Ball_Z 03-11-2015 05:26 PM

Fake 3rd? Pretty functional


-Raj

11Thumper 03-12-2015 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by FERRARI (Post 3134943)
You nailed it....but the AT drives will never learn that even if they wanted to because they don't even know what you are talking about............but real drivers do

I don't easily call people stupid but you're really pushing it. :p

MR.nismo 03-12-2015 09:42 PM

The whole thing is not about what/who is better. Yes, I'm old school and I rather have my hands busy than having a freehand to pick my nose as I drive. As someone here posted, if everything nowadays comes with auto + paddle shifters, then I'll be buying used and old cars in the not so distant future. The OP was just asking for our insights as to what are our preferences. In theory, no one here is better than the other (cough, cough).
IMO the true essence of a sports cars are:
1- Tachometer dead centered above the steering wheel.
2- Not much interior space but the driver side (and maybe a passenger seat for the mistress).
3- Low center of gravity
4- And a manual transmission that includes a clutch pedal and a shifter stick.
Now, given the new technology and (F1 inspirations) we can find an array of vehicles from super exotics down to the most affordable cars, utilizing this new tech stuff and some of them have proven to be better in some instances where a paddle shifter (teptronic, slapper, semi auto stick) or whatever they call them to be able to set new records at just about any track and even when doing battle against manual transmissions as well.
Most of us know, it all comes down to driver and the vehicle abilities but if paddle shifter/slapper drivers feel better at driving without a real shifter and a clutch lever then... let them be. Meanwhile I'll be having real fun with busy hands and feet while trying to tame the Z demons. :driving:

Tadpole 03-12-2015 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MR.nismo (Post 3136541)
The whole thing is not about what/who is better. Yes, I'm old school and I rather have my hands busy than having a freehand to pick my nose as I drive. As someone here posted, if everything nowadays comes with auto + paddle shifters, then I'll be buying used and old cars in the not so distant future. The OP was just asking for our insights as to what are our preferences. In theory, no one here is better than the other (cough, cough).
IMO the true essence of a sports cars are:
1- Tachometer dead centered above the steering wheel.
2- Not much interior space but the driver side (and maybe a passenger seat for the mistress).
3- Low center of gravity
4- And a manual transmission that includes a clutch pedal and a shifter stick.
Now, given the new technology and (F1 inspirations) we can find an array of vehicles from super exotics down to the most affordable cars, utilizing this new tech stuff and some of them have proven to be better in some instances where a paddle shifter (teptronic, slapper, semi auto stick) or whatever they call them to be able to set new records at just about any track and even when doing battle against manual transmissions as well.
Most of us know, it all comes down to driver and the vehicle abilities but if paddle shifter/slapper drivers feel better at driving without a real shifter and a clutch lever then... let them be. Meanwhile I'll be having real fun with busy hands and feet while trying to tame the Z demons. :driving:

Well said Mr. Nismo but autos are still better. :stirthepot:

Taylortoons 03-13-2015 09:07 AM

I only drive with the paddle shifters, so I maintain the performance feel of the car and it requires both hands to shift gears (up/down). The only part of the equation that I am missing is pushing in the clutch with my leg, which isn't a big deal.

This is my second Z and first AT. I really enjoyed the feel of the paddles. Neither way is right or wrong, better or worse.

At cruising speeds on the highway, both are the same.

Dragon_Ball_Z 03-13-2015 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Taylortoons (Post 3136787)
I only drive with the paddle shifters, so I maintain the performance feel of the car and it requires both hands to shift gears (up/down). The only part of the equation that I am missing is pushing in the clutch with my leg, which isn't a big deal.



This is my second Z and first AT. I really enjoyed the feel of the paddles. Neither way is right or wrong, better or worse.



At cruising speeds on the highway, both are the same.


Except you don't have a 6 speed :stirthepot:


-Raj

Memphis370Z 03-13-2015 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by rajmangal7 (Post 3136790)
Except you don't have a 6 speed :stirthepot:


-Raj


You're right, Raj. He's got a 6 speed + 1! Haha!

On a side note, hope your build is going well, bro!


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Dragon_Ball_Z 03-13-2015 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Memphis370Z (Post 3136799)
You're right, Raj. He's got a 6 speed + 1! Haha!

On a side note, hope your build is going well, bro!


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Thanks bro, building this other Z has me tied up so the grey is on hold for awhile :/


-Raj

FERRARI 03-13-2015 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 11Thumper (Post 3135567)
I don't easily call people stupid but you're really pushing it. :p

You can always tell when someone is losing a debate......they start calling names.......

FPenvy 03-13-2015 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by FERRARI (Post 3137177)
You can always tell when someone is losing a debate......the start calling names.......

good point......but did you actually read what you posted? absolutely retarded. like forum special Olympic captain retarded.

11Thumper 03-13-2015 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FERRARI (Post 3137177)
You can always tell when someone is losing a debate......the start calling names.......

I'm not debating with you so what's your point exactly? Your comments are simply worthless like your profile name Mr. "Ferrari" :rolleyes:

Also, I encourage you to seek an education because you clearly don't know how to spell correctly.

Malm 03-13-2015 04:37 PM

I have a 7at, and have driven my friends 6 speed. With SRM it feels just about the same as driving in manual mode in my 7at.

And also, whether or not your balls are clean, doesn't everyone just scratch them for the hell of it?

HEK 03-13-2015 06:27 PM

My last auto was a 2010 FJ Cruiser which I bought new and was given a great deal for a fully loaded because it was the last one on the lot not to mention wifey a research nut case that told me that autos got better mpg vs sticks (FJ Forum).
A mistake as I would feel like a zombie driving it home from work since i could not tell how it would do passing cars...go figure (2 lane back roads that if your stuck behind an old lady texting your screwed).
Since I got my Z I've come alive and not that I drive like a crazy man but knowing which gear to be when I decide to pass a car makes me feel good and not to mention the adrenaline rush...o on that note is not what type of vehicle you drive is what driving conditions you encounter daily that would decide what transmission to have. If I lived in a city of course an auto would make sense but living in the woods with only 2 lanes to use and few passing zones you want a stick...:driving:

11Thumper 03-14-2015 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by HEK (Post 3137360)
If I lived in a city of course an auto would make sense but living in the woods with only 2 lanes to use and few passing zones you want a stick...:driving:

Werd... :driving:

FERRARI 03-14-2015 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 11Thumper (Post 3137218)
I'm not debating with you so what's your point exactly? Your comments are simply worthless like your profile name Mr. "Ferrari" :rolleyes:

Also, I encourage you to seek an education because you clearly don't know how to spell correctly.

I have a doctorate in medicinal chemistry.......what is your educational level ?

Tadpole 03-14-2015 03:11 PM

Never confuse education level with spelling and grammar ability. Being smart does not Apply.

I barely graduated high school and I have better spelling and grammar ability than most educated people than I have been around. Kinda funny when I give them hell about it.

Trips 03-14-2015 03:16 PM

Lets keep it civil and not make things personal.

No need to make it more than it needs to be.

Thank You...

JARblue 03-14-2015 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Trips (Post 3137995)
Lets keep it civil and not make things personal.

No need to make it more than it needs to be.

Thank You...

:mad:

What good is this thread if I can't attack an AT driver on a personal level?

Yo momma so lame she can't even drive a manual transmission! :stirthepot:

FLUJOKE 03-14-2015 06:55 PM

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Shotta 03-14-2015 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JWillis72 (Post 3135049)
At Homestead Miami Speedway 10 days ago the fastest guy in my group was in a new Porsche GT3 , you can't get them in manual. The manual transmission is going to just be part of history soon. 10 years ago I would have never considered buying a sports car with a auto but now I may never buy another one that isn't auto.


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with all the "automatic" assisted electronics running on that GT3 you would have to be an extremely bad driver or slightly retarded to not be the fastest. He was probably reading the newspaper and sipping his latte at the same time as well. Point and step on the gas.

My neighbor has a nice bright orange GT3 but we haven't been on the same track together yet, hopefully this summer.

Shotta 03-14-2015 07:29 PM

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Shifting Autos be like.

FLUJOKE 03-14-2015 07:55 PM

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Shifting Autos be like.


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Shotta 03-14-2015 08:01 PM

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Auto, so easy a dog can do it.

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FERRARI 03-15-2015 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 11Thumper (Post 3137218)
I'm not debating with you so what's your point exactly? Your comments are simply worthless like your profile name Mr. "Ferrari" :rolleyes:

Also, I encourage you to seek an education because you clearly don't know how to spell correctly.

If you are so educated it seems like you would know the difference in a typo and grammar mistake.........

DavidZ370 03-15-2015 04:25 PM

not sure if id rather be inside a concentration camp or read some of the posts on this thread...

too soon? :wtf2:

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