Looking for info on talented VHR builders.

cv129 · 08-03-2021, 05:30 PM

Read Spooler’s thread.

It’s the only big power VHR37 thread (800+whp) that’s completely honest about every single failure and hurdle, AND not a dyno nor garage queen.

Even without him disclosing every price tag, you will have a good guess on $ involved. Big $ to start, big $ as reserve, big down time and patience involved.

Even though it’s been 12 yrs, “reliable” 800+ on this motor is still a relatively new and lofty territory.

Whatever you do, best of luck

Rusty · 08-03-2021, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cv129

Read Spooler’s thread.

It’s the only big power VHR37 thread (800+whp) that’s completely honest about every single failure and hurdle, AND not a dyno nor garage queen.

Even without him disclosing every price tag, you will have a good guess on $ involved. Big $ to start, big $ as reserve, big down time and patience involved.

Even though it’s been 12 yrs, “reliable” 800+ on this motor is still a relatively new and lofty territory.

Whatever you do, best of luck

Spooler · 08-03-2021, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cv129

Read Spooler’s thread.

It’s the only big power VHR37 thread (800+whp) that’s completely honest about every single failure and hurdle, AND not a dyno nor garage queen.

Even without him disclosing every price tag, you will have a good guess on $ involved. Big $ to start, big $ as reserve, big down time and patience involved.

Even though it’s been 12 yrs, “reliable” 800+ on this motor is still a relatively new and lofty territory.

Whatever you do, best of luck

Thanks, it has been an adventure.

oldskoolchuk · 08-03-2021, 08:00 PM

So, what are the limitations of our manual trans? Our dif? What numbers should I aim for before the budget necessary goes through the roof? I'm still thinking the mazworks motor will be what I want to do. Where is that happy medium between the 600 on a stock block and 60k to get 850-950 reliably? What threshold should I aim for? As it stands I'm working with a stock nismo suspension, trans, axles and dif.

Spooler · 08-03-2021, 09:06 PM

I am on the stock trans. It won't hold if I go to the drag strip, so I don't go. It may grenade at any time. Input shaft or 3rd gear may let go. You need the diff to calm the car down. It is all over the place with a stock VLSD. That is a safety thing. Axles, no launching they should o OK to around 800whp. No drag strip either. Wheel hop, kiss them goodbye. Take 3 weeks and read/watch the videos in my thread.

Rusty · 08-03-2021, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

I am on the stock trans. It won't hold if I go to the drag strip, so I don't go. It may grenade at any time. Input shaft or 3rd gear may let go. You need the diff to calm the car down. It is all over the place with a stock VLSD. That is a safety thing. Axles, no launching they should o OK to around 800whp. No drag strip either. Wheel hop, kiss them goodbye. Take 3 weeks and read/watch the videos in my thread.

You forgot the whole SPL catalog.

Even without boost. Most guys here run the SPL catalog.

FL 4Motion · 08-04-2021, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

You forgot the whole SPL catalog.

Even without boost. Most guys here run the SPL catalog.

Yup, that’s a pretty penny, we had that on both our old nismo track cars.

gbrettin · 08-04-2021, 08:51 AM

"LS Swap!?!? Eww, gross." ... Now I know what Spooler really thinks. lol

I'm living proof you can burn a lot of money with any engine. The time frame on my build is a bit skewed because of 2 things:

1. I'm a dumb animal
2. I LOVE jumping down black holes like it's a never ending ride.

Every time I turn around I find another item that needs 200-500 minimum. Funny that you guys are talking rear diff, I'll use that as my example.

My vaporware should make some big power after I dial it in. With that in mind... I need a rear diff that can handle BIG POWER. Here's the rabbit hole:

Winters Quick change - Fully built to handle 2k hp. <--- this is the tip of the sword of what I own.

Known hole:
MA Motorsports rear subframe w/ SPL bushings
MA Motorsports Anti Squat
CF Drive shaft
DSS Drive Shaft

Unknown(ish) hole
Rear coils (need corner weight)
SPL rear stuff... I'll look at Jobby's car. lol
Powder coating?

Thank fully I'm going to settle on running power this year (hopefully). Get a drive shaft and hook it up as is for a shake down.

Main point here... I was just showing a rabbit hole and how you can lose yourself when you start throwing around big HP.

Spooler · 08-04-2021, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gbrettin

"LS Swap!?!? Eww, gross." ... Now I know what Spooler really thinks. lol

I'm living proof you can burn a lot of money with any engine. The time frame on my build is a bit skewed because of 2 things:

1. I'm a dumb animal
2. I LOVE jumping down black holes like it's a never ending ride.

Every time I turn around I find another item that needs 200-500 minimum. Funny that you guys are talking rear diff, I'll use that as my example.

My vaporware should make some big power after I dial it in. With that in mind... I need a rear diff that can handle BIG POWER. Here's the rabbit hole:

Winters Quick change - Fully built to handle 2k hp. <--- this is the tip of the sword of what I own.

Known hole:
MA Motorsports rear subframe w/ SPL bushings
MA Motorsports Anti Squat
CF Drive shaft
DSS Drive Shaft

Unknown(ish) hole
Rear coils (need corner weight)
SPL rear stuff... I'll look at Jobby's car. lol
Powder coating?

Thank fully I'm going to settle on running power this year (hopefully). Get a drive shaft and hook it up as is for a shake down.

Main point here... I was just showing a rabbit hole and how you can lose yourself when you start throwing around big HP.

LOL, you are not done yet. If you can get all your gauges working and everything else. Then it will be a proper build. Finish it up and then I will tell you what I think.

FL 4Motion · 08-05-2021, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

LOL, you are not done yet. If you can get all your gauges working and everything else. Then it will be a proper build. Finish it up and then I will tell you what I think.

Boys boys, let’s just settle this like immature men shall we?

when gbrettin’s z is done y’all need to attend a 1/2 mile event and see who’s got the fastest time and trap speed….

I think I speak for everyone here when I saw I’d love to see that. Loser has to put a sticker on his windshield that says “i shoulda got a v8/or I shoulda gone TT”.

And keep it on there until the next zdayz.

madwi · 08-05-2021, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FL 4Motion

Boys boys, let’s just settle this like immature men shall we?

when gbrettin’s z is done y’all need to attend a 1/2 mile event and see who’s got the fastest time and trap speed….

I think I speak for everyone here when I saw I’d love to see that. Loser has to put a sticker on his windshield that says “i shoulda got a v8/or I shoulda gone VQ TT”.

And keep it on there until the next zdayz.

FTFY; it is a TT Ls motor.

cv129 · 08-05-2021, 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FL 4Motion

Boys boys, let’s just settle this like immature men shall we?

when gbrettin’s z is done y’all need to attend a 1/2 mile event and see who’s got the fastest time and trap speed….

I think I speak for everyone here when I saw I’d love to see that. Loser has to put a sticker on his windshield that says “i shoulda got a v8/or I shoulda gone TT”.

And keep it on there until the next zdayz.

Spooler · 08-05-2021, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FL 4Motion

Boys boys, let’s just settle this like immature men shall we?

when gbrettin’s z is done y’all need to attend a 1/2 mile event and see who’s got the fastest time and trap speed….

I think I speak for everyone here when I saw I’d love to see that. Loser has to put a sticker on his windshield that says “i shoulda got a v8/or I shoulda gone TT”.

And keep it on there until the next zdayz.

Why does it always have to be this way. I have no issues with an LS swap that is done right. I hope he completes his dream build and enjoys the hell out of it. I could care less about being the fastest. Not my thang.

gbrettin · 08-05-2021, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooler

Why does it always have to be this way. I have no issues with an LS swap that is done right. I hope he completes his dream build and enjoys the hell out of it. I could care less about being the fastest. Not my thang.

I was thinking more of a fun event for boosted cars opening the taps. I'm not putting a sticker on my car if I lose. lol.

My build is a personal journey of what I can do from the ground up AND something I can share with the community for ideas in general. From what I gather your build is something similar; however, I haven't read your whole thread and only read a small excerpts here and there.

I did find it laughable that the hang-up to consider a build a "build" are functional gauges. However, that's you're opinion and you're entitled to that.

--- Edit

I'm not going to bring this topic up in here further. It detracts from the thread as a whole.

FL 4Motion · 08-07-2021, 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooler

Why does it always have to be this way. I have no issues with an LS swap that is done right. I hope he completes his dream build and enjoys the hell out of it. I could care less about being the fastest. Not my thang.

Dude, you gotta know I was just fvcking with y’all.

08-03-2021, 05:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
cv129 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,272 Drives: 09 Nismo, 16 Nismo Rep Power: 163996	Read Spooler’s thread. It’s the only big power VHR37 thread (800+whp) that’s completely honest about every single failure and hurdle, AND not a dyno nor garage queen. Even without him disclosing every price tag, you will have a good guess on $ involved. Big $ to start, big $ as reserve, big down time and patience involved. Even though it’s been 12 yrs, “reliable” 800+ on this motor is still a relatively new and lofty territory. Whatever you do, best of luck FL 4Motion, JARblue, Rusty and 6 others like this. __________________ Setrab \| RE-71 \| SPL \| JRZ \| Nismo \| ARK \| Whiteline \| RacingBrake \| CJM Oil Pan \| Ti shield

08-03-2021, 09:06 PM	#5 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 14,153 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684394	I am on the stock trans. It won't hold if I go to the drag strip, so I don't go. It may grenade at any time. Input shaft or 3rd gear may let go. You need the diff to calm the car down. It is all over the place with a stock VLSD. That is a safety thing. Axles, no launching they should o OK to around 800whp. No drag strip either. Wheel hop, kiss them goodbye. Take 3 weeks and read/watch the videos in my thread. FL 4Motion, gbrettin, JARblue and 2 others like this.

08-04-2021, 08:51 AM	#8 (permalink)
gbrettin A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Portage, MI Posts: 2,303 Drives: Tricycle Rep Power: 589152	"LS Swap!?!? Eww, gross." ... Now I know what Spooler really thinks. lol I'm living proof you can burn a lot of money with any engine. The time frame on my build is a bit skewed because of 2 things: 1. I'm a dumb animal 2. I LOVE jumping down black holes like it's a never ending ride. Every time I turn around I find another item that needs 200-500 minimum. Funny that you guys are talking rear diff, I'll use that as my example. My vaporware should make some big power after I dial it in. With that in mind... I need a rear diff that can handle BIG POWER. Here's the rabbit hole: Winters Quick change - Fully built to handle 2k hp. <--- this is the tip of the sword of what I own. Known hole: MA Motorsports rear subframe w/ SPL bushings MA Motorsports Anti Squat CF Drive shaft DSS Drive Shaft Unknown(ish) hole Rear coils (need corner weight) SPL rear stuff... I'll look at Jobby's car. lol Powder coating? Thank fully I'm going to settle on running power this year (hopefully). Get a drive shaft and hook it up as is for a shake down. Main point here... I was just showing a rabbit hole and how you can lose yourself when you start throwing around big HP. FL 4Motion, JARblue, Rusty and 2 others like this. Last edited by gbrettin; 08-04-2021 at 09:00 AM.

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08-03-2021, 08:00 PM	#4 (permalink)
oldskoolchuk Base Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 23 Drives: Boosted '13 Nismo Rep Power: 11	So, what are the limitations of our manual trans? Our dif? What numbers should I aim for before the budget necessary goes through the roof? I'm still thinking the mazworks motor will be what I want to do. Where is that happy medium between the 600 on a stock block and 60k to get 850-950 reliably? What threshold should I aim for? As it stands I'm working with a stock nismo suspension, trans, axles and dif.