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I wouldn’t necessarily say that your tuner is wrong with respect to maf readings. It is true that under SOME conditions the air will be more turbulent with an aftermarket

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Old 08-13-2018, 03:08 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I wouldn’t necessarily say that your tuner is wrong with respect to maf readings. It is true that under SOME conditions the air will be more turbulent with an aftermarket air intake than with the factory intake. The factory goes through great lengths to ensure the airflow has as little turbulence as possible and the result can be observed in the relatively smooth maf signals present in most stock applications.

With that said, an intake that produces more flow will in fact produce more power since the air mass consumed is larger and a larger amount of fuel will need to be added to hit the desired fuel targets. A good measurement without a dyno can be approximated by logging g/s of air consumed by the engine under identical conditions for comparison.

Ultimately a lower turbulence maf signal will produce a more accurate load calculation and that will produce a smoother ignition timing curve and the car will drive smoother than a high turbulence system. Each implementation has its drawbacks/benefits.
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I'd say coilovers unless you want hp gains then get a 3" intake and a tune. Most 3" intakes require a tune for the car to actually run well.
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1. Zspeed CSC Elimination Kit
2A. Intake Either a CAI or K&N Drop ins; Our stock intake is pretty good at getting cold air but the tubing isn't the greatest. 2B. ECUtek Tune
3. Wavetec or Quaif Differential
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I wouldn’t necessarily say that your tuner is wrong with respect to maf readings. It is true that under SOME conditions the air will be more turbulent with an aftermarket air intake than with the factory intake. The factory goes through great lengths to ensure the airflow has as little turbulence as possible and the result can be observed in the relatively smooth maf signals present in most stock applications.

With that said, an intake that produces more flow will in fact produce more power since the air mass consumed is larger and a larger amount of fuel will need to be added to hit the desired fuel targets. A good measurement without a dyno can be approximated by logging g/s of air consumed by the engine under identical conditions for comparison.

Ultimately a lower turbulence maf signal will produce a more accurate load calculation and that will produce a smoother ignition timing curve and the car will drive smoother than a high turbulence system. Each implementation has its drawbacks/benefits.
You drinking the coolaid? For the Z, the gains from CAI from Stillen and Takeda are documented.
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