Oil Cooler - Is it really necessary?

Erob · 01-17-2018, 07:19 AM

All of this talk about deletin' and torquin' and cappin' has made me a nervous wreck. Makes me glad mine is a 2010 w/o an OEM oil cooler!!!

Hotrodz · 01-17-2018, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Erob

All of this talk about deletin' and torquin' and cappin' has made me a nervous wreck. Makes me glad mine is a 2010 w/o an OEM oil cooler!!!

You did good...right year, right color...wrong transmission!

Erob · 01-17-2018, 09:43 AM

Yeah, Yeah... I hear ya.

nosam1g · 01-18-2018, 02:16 AM

sorry for all the confusion i was really just trying to ask if i can basically bolt on the z1 kit to my 2015 with no customizing... just mount cooler/lines/sandwich plate , and bam ready to go 180 degrees oil ^^

filip00 · 03-21-2022, 05:50 PM

Resurrecting this thread....is there anyone from Europe here that can suggest an oil cooler to order? I'm looking at ordering a 25 row, or a 34 row thermostatic one...
Most of the manufacturers either don't ship to Europe or charge it quite a lot, so I'm looking into options already in europe. Mishimoto has one for sale, but it's just 19 row. Any other suggestions? Thanks!

Hotrodz · 03-21-2022, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by filip00

Resurrecting this thread....is there anyone from Europe here that can suggest an oil cooler to order? I'm looking at ordering a 25 row, or a 34 row thermostatic one...
Most of the manufacturers either don't ship to Europe or charge it quite a lot, so I'm looking into options already in europe. Mishimoto has one for sail, but it's just 19 row. Any other suggestions? Thanks!

I believe both CZP (Concept Z) and Z1 both will send out of country.

Tractionless · 03-23-2022, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by filip00

Resurrecting this thread....is there anyone from Europe here that can suggest an oil cooler to order? I'm looking at ordering a 25 row, or a 34 row thermostatic one...
Most of the manufacturers either don't ship to Europe or charge it quite a lot, so I'm looking into options already in europe. Mishimoto has one for sale, but it's just 19 row. Any other suggestions? Thanks!

My 25 row has been reduced via plate to a 19 row and will still only get up to 160*F with a termostatic plate when cold in Florida. Never seen over 210* in dead heat of summer. If you live in a cold region and not tracking I don't see any reason to get larger than a 19 row. Mine is a Setrab.

I bought used for a known good engine, surely another enthusiast would gladly help you out with actual shipping costs and not try to make additional profit as businesses do.

Red Voodoo · 03-25-2022, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Tractionless

My 25 row has been reduced via plate to a 19 row and will still only get up to 160*F with a termostatic plate when cold in Florida. Never seen over 210* in dead heat of summer.

While we're on that subject, I've noticed the same characteristics with my 34-row thermostatic cooler (sans a thermo-plate). On a cool morning with 40*F - 60*F outside temps, I'll be hard pressed to get my oil gauge over 160*F when maintaining a steady speed in high gear (like on a freeway). Stop and go driving in traffic and on surface streets will usually get the temp up to near the optimal 180*F and will hold there unless I stay at an increased speed for too long, when it will begin to drop. I haven't taken the car on any spirited runs yet this year, but the highest I've seen the gauge go is about 200*F in traffic with outside temperatures in the mid-70s. At these running temperatures, I'm not concerned about over-cooling the oil, since I understand the internals of the motor can run ~75*F hotter than the sump, therefore allowing the oil to hit that critical temperature mark before falling back into the pan. Running the recommended synthetic oil with 5,000 mile change intervals will likely be sufficient unless my current driving patterns change (read: car mainly used for short trips).

Is it necessary to have an oil cooler? It's all going to come down to the use and location of the vehicle. Track and race applications seem to demand it. Extreme hot climates will likely benefit from one as well. I used to run in the 220*F - 230*F range without the cooler in a casual commute. It wasn't until I creeped over 245*F during a mountain run last summer that I even considered investing in a cooler. I'm happy with my investment.

Tractionless · 04-02-2022, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Voodoo

It wasn't until I creeped over 245*F during a mountain run last summer that I even considered investing in a cooler. I'm happy with my investment.

240* in Florida summer during a highway trip cruising at 80mph did it for me.

I've read +20* internally but in any event I'm still comfortable with my temps. plus as high at the 75* you mentioned. For what it's worth the ECU uses the data supplied to the OE oil temp gauge for limp mode so the engineers must be comfortable with the internal temp. delta.

01-17-2018, 09:43 AM	#48 (permalink)
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nosam1g Base Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: Socal Posts: 74 Drives: 2015 370z Sport Tech Rep Power: 7	sorry for all the confusion i was really just trying to ask if i can basically bolt on the z1 kit to my 2015 with no customizing... just mount cooler/lines/sandwich plate , and bam ready to go 180 degrees oil ^^ Qlitv likes this.

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filip00 Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2021 Location: slovenia Posts: 480 Drives: 370z pack Rep Power: 105292	Resurrecting this thread....is there anyone from Europe here that can suggest an oil cooler to order? I'm looking at ordering a 25 row, or a 34 row thermostatic one... Most of the manufacturers either don't ship to Europe or charge it quite a lot, so I'm looking into options already in europe. Mishimoto has one for sale, but it's just 19 row. Any other suggestions? Thanks! Last edited by filip00; 03-22-2022 at 03:08 PM.

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01-17-2018, 07:19 AM	#46 (permalink)
Erob Base Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Kingsport Posts: 32 Drives: 2010 Silver 370Z AT Rep Power: 7	All of this talk about deletin' and torquin' and cappin' has made me a nervous wreck. Makes me glad mine is a 2010 w/o an OEM oil cooler!!!