Fitting a Trans Cooler to a Manual Radiator

chloeaddict · 03-22-2017, 05:59 AM

I am currently rebuilding the front end of my car. I've sourced the full front end (Rads forward) off a car that was being broken however it was manual.....and my cars auto.

Obviously I need to install a trans cooler. Am I best to;

1/ Fit an after market Stillen Transcooler to the manual radiator - How easy would this be to do?

or

2/ Sell the manual radiator and buy a Mishimoto Auto Radiator - Do these normally fit in to the existing space easily?

Thanks In advance!

Chuck33079 · 03-22-2017, 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chloeaddict

I am currently rebuilding the front end of my car. I've sourced the full front end (Rads forward) off a car that was being broken however it was manual.....and my cars auto.

Obviously I need to install a trans cooler. Am I best to;

1/ Fit an after market Stillen Transcooler to the manual radiator - How easy would this be to do?

or

2/ Sell the manual radiator and buy a Mishimoto Auto Radiator - Do these normally fit in to the existing space easily?

Thanks In advance!

If you go aftermarket, get a CSF. Mishimoto is cheap Chinese garbage.

chloeaddict · 03-22-2017, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

If you go aftermarket, get a CSF. Mishimoto is cheap Chinese garbage.

Thanks. Regrettably I am on a bit of a budget but I will check CSF out! Thanks

Chuck33079 · 03-22-2017, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chloeaddict

Thanks. Regrettably I am on a bit of a budget but I will check CSF out! Thanks

Being on a tight budget is all the more reason to avoid any Mishimoto product like the plague. It will cost more to fix the resulting damage to your car when their shoddy parts break and damage other things.

SouthArk370Z · 03-22-2017, 08:40 AM

I don't know anything about Mishimoto, but

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Being on a tight budget is all the more reason to avoid any cheap product like the plague. It will cost more to fix the resulting damage to your car when their shoddy parts break and damage other things.

is some great advice. If you can't afford to do it right, you sure can't afford to do it wrong.

TerribleONE · 03-22-2017, 09:17 AM

Perfect time for a 6mt swap??

rovert · 03-23-2017, 03:41 AM

Hey, I have an auto & are currently only cooling the trans via an aftermarket PWR trans cooler.
This is what I did & the results that I got in my particular circumstance.
Firstly my car is a JDM 370GT (G37) & has the 5AT so the results may be different to the 7AT.
I have also fitted the Transgo shift kit.
Where I live (on the east coast of Australia) Temperatures are Moderate to Hot (no snow or even frost).
I have an auto rad in the car but have disconnected the stock trans cooler completely.
I did this as a bit of an experiment as a part of building my own TT system.
Reason behind this was to see how trans temps reacted.
I wanted to see if I could use the CSF triple pass (manual only) Unit to combat the extra heat generated by the TT system & still keep trans temps under control.
I fitted a transmission temp sensor to the trans pan early on, before even doing the shift kit, so as to monitor changes in trans temp from mods.
I also fitted coolant, engine oil & differential oil temp sensors, etc,etc.
So far its all good, currently it is still NA though.
For me it is actually an improvement over stock, the only negative is a slightly slower warm up time (almost negligible) & a way faster cool down once it gets hot.
Again you must remember, it never gets real cold here & the result may be quite different in a colder climate.
Another big plus that became evident though was the effect that this had on the water cooling system.
Under sustained hard driving I had previously had trouble with excessive coolant temps.
Reducing the thermal load on the coolant (it now doesn't have to cope with cooling the trans) has made a substantial difference. Coolant temps are now totally under control & that is still with the stock auto radiator in there.
I have since purchased said CSF Manual triple pass Radiator to fit as a backup if needed when the turbos go on.
Mind you, as previously mentioned it is still NA & this may all change when the intercooler is mounted up front.
I did the same thing with the oil system & removed the stock oil cooler/heater (JDM models have had it since late 2007) & replaced it with a thermo plate, setrab 25row cooler & oil pan spacer.
So currently I have quite a bit of headroom.

Mishimoto · 03-28-2017, 12:35 PM

Hello to everyone,

Sorry to hear that there is some negative feedback about Mishimoto. We are actually an American company. All of our products are engineered, manufactured and tested right here in the USA. As a whole, our products have a less than 1% failure rate. Also, all of our products come with a lifetime warranty.

If your having an issue with your product or have questions/concerns please contact us directly for a prompt and accurate response. We can be reached by email at support@mishimoto.com or by phone at 302.762.4501.

Thank you and have a great day,
Mishimoto

Jayhovah · 03-28-2017, 12:59 PM

Paging Mr. 33079. Mr Chuck 33079, your assistance is needed.

Chuck33079 · 03-28-2017, 01:02 PM

Oh, they got a new forum shill? Let's make him welcome.

Optimiser · 03-28-2017, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Being on a tight budget is all the more reason to avoid any Mishimoto product like the plague. It will cost more to fix the resulting damage to your car when their shoddy parts break and damage other things.

My shop fitted my car with a Mishimoto oil cooler some time ago and it works well and been fine.

Chuck33079 · 03-28-2017, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Optimiser

My shop fitted my car with a Mishimoto oil cooler some time ago and it works well and been fine.

Good luck with that. One guy here had his mishimoto sandwich plate puke all of his oil all over the road. It took them weeks to ever follow through on helping him. They sent him a new o ring and a gift card for more mishimoto parts after lying about sending it out over and over. Then the president of the company came on here and made challenger jokes since it was an o ring failure.

Optimiser · 03-29-2017, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Good luck with that. One guy here had his mishimoto sandwich plate puke all of his oil all over the road. It took them weeks to ever follow through on helping him. They sent him a new o ring and a gift card for more mishimoto parts after lying about sending it out over and over. Then the president of the company came on here and made challenger jokes since it was an o ring failure.

Yes I hope it stays reliable.

03-22-2017, 05:59 AM	#1 (permalink)
chloeaddict Base Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Manchester Posts: 9 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z GT Rep Power: 11	Fitting a Trans Cooler to a Manual Radiator I am currently rebuilding the front end of my car. I've sourced the full front end (Rads forward) off a car that was being broken however it was manual.....and my cars auto. Obviously I need to install a trans cooler. Am I best to; 1/ Fit an after market Stillen Transcooler to the manual radiator - How easy would this be to do? or 2/ Sell the manual radiator and buy a Mishimoto Auto Radiator - Do these normally fit in to the existing space easily? Thanks In advance!

03-22-2017, 09:17 AM	#6 (permalink)
TerribleONE A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 10,203 Drives: WOT Rep Power: 5850	Perfect time for a 6mt swap?? __________________ 638WHP 541WTQ @ 13.5PSI Build thread

03-23-2017, 03:41 AM	#7 (permalink)
rovert Base Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Australia Posts: 64 Drives: 08 Skyline 370GT Rep Power: 9	Hey, I have an auto & are currently only cooling the trans via an aftermarket PWR trans cooler. This is what I did & the results that I got in my particular circumstance. Firstly my car is a JDM 370GT (G37) & has the 5AT so the results may be different to the 7AT. I have also fitted the Transgo shift kit. Where I live (on the east coast of Australia) Temperatures are Moderate to Hot (no snow or even frost). I have an auto rad in the car but have disconnected the stock trans cooler completely. I did this as a bit of an experiment as a part of building my own TT system. Reason behind this was to see how trans temps reacted. I wanted to see if I could use the CSF triple pass (manual only) Unit to combat the extra heat generated by the TT system & still keep trans temps under control. I fitted a transmission temp sensor to the trans pan early on, before even doing the shift kit, so as to monitor changes in trans temp from mods. I also fitted coolant, engine oil & differential oil temp sensors, etc,etc. So far its all good, currently it is still NA though. For me it is actually an improvement over stock, the only negative is a slightly slower warm up time (almost negligible) & a way faster cool down once it gets hot. Again you must remember, it never gets real cold here & the result may be quite different in a colder climate. Another big plus that became evident though was the effect that this had on the water cooling system. Under sustained hard driving I had previously had trouble with excessive coolant temps. Reducing the thermal load on the coolant (it now doesn't have to cope with cooling the trans) has made a substantial difference. Coolant temps are now totally under control & that is still with the stock auto radiator in there. I have since purchased said CSF Manual triple pass Radiator to fit as a backup if needed when the turbos go on. Mind you, as previously mentioned it is still NA & this may all change when the intercooler is mounted up front. I did the same thing with the oil system & removed the stock oil cooler/heater (JDM models have had it since late 2007) & replaced it with a thermo plate, setrab 25row cooler & oil pan spacer. So currently I have quite a bit of headroom. __________________ 08 Skyline 370GT SP Coupe 5AT: Diy TT Last edited by rovert; 03-23-2017 at 03:59 AM.

03-28-2017, 12:35 PM	#8 (permalink)
Mishimoto Base Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Wilmington, DE Posts: 80 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 13	Hello to everyone, Sorry to hear that there is some negative feedback about Mishimoto. We are actually an American company. All of our products are engineered, manufactured and tested right here in the USA. As a whole, our products have a less than 1% failure rate. Also, all of our products come with a lifetime warranty. If your having an issue with your product or have questions/concerns please contact us directly for a prompt and accurate response. We can be reached by email at support@mishimoto.com or by phone at 302.762.4501. Thank you and have a great day, Mishimoto wideglideleon likes this. __________________ Mishimoto Automotive

03-28-2017, 01:02 PM	#10 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	Oh, they got a new forum shill? Let's make him welcome. wideglideleon likes this. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

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