Jim Wolf Cam testing for the VQ37VHR -- Results inside!

derraj06 · 08-10-2017, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk

I have everything ported on my intake side except the heads of course. I'm also running the Z1 intakes, but just ordered the oversized filters. I'm wondering if the restriction is the CAI or the upper, lower, or TB's. I'm seriously interested. My Wife; not so much lol

I am looking into if any of my friends still have some ported parts I can swap on and test. I've had a ported plenum before and it did not test well on the dyno even after being tuned for it. My guess was lack of velocity. I'd also like to get my hands on a set of larger TBs to try but I don't have anyone local to bribe into letting me swap them over and see what happens.

derraj06 · 08-09-2017, 10:10 PM

I have already spoken with phunk about his manifold and my application as I chat with him often. He's not of the opinion that his manifold would produce any significant gains at this point. The factory manifold design is actually very good as evident by it still making power above redline with these cams. The issue is getting air into the manifold currently. Is that intake piping? It's likely a part of it. Is it TB diameter? Also likely. There's also a decent chance selective porting of the upper and perhaps lower can yield some gains as well.

I'll be working with Daelen to test once we can decide what the next step is. Personally, I'm gathering a list of options for the TBs and intake piping. It's a game of matching all the parts for a given goal for me.

Elmo370z · 08-10-2017, 02:35 AM

Awesome sauce. You could go with a Bryant racing crank and forged internals. Bump the compression up 11:5 or something higher if you have a steady supply of E. add in some cylinder head work to support higher revs or get a bigger cam something like the jun 288??? Maybe??

derraj06 · 08-10-2017, 09:02 AM

Yeah, we've talked over this engine for a long time and some of those parts are still on list of things we could try. The crank is likely to happen but there are other options currently. If all goes to plan I'll likely build a new short block with some sort of increased compression and go flex fuel for the street. That's the easy part, it is just a matter of budget and timing. The head work is a bit more tedious. As of today there are not parts to do what I want to do, similar to these C2 cams not existing. I"m stubborn and do not want to give up the VHR heads until they simply cannot do what I want to do. Lucky for me I think MA is curious enough to keep working on solutions.

As for the Jun cams, I talked to Jun about them for a while. Without a similar short block build to how they tested them, they did not recommend using them. That was surprising to me.

lj909 · 08-10-2017, 10:01 AM

I've got a set of the EPS 70mm throttles combined with AAM intakes. I can tell you they do make more power.

chuckie311 · 08-10-2017, 11:27 AM

here is what i have on my list of to dos so far..planning this for April or May of next year

JWT Stage 2 cams
suckerpunch upgraded oil pump

Stage 1 heads from import part pros
Heads inspected and cleaned
Heads redecked
Ported exhaust and intake runners
3 angle valve job
New OEM Valve stem seals installed
Valve Stem Heights set
Cold Clearance set for stock cams
Heads prepped and assembled

+1mm oversized valves

ported lower plenum

change plugs on car

change water pump

inspect timing chain

then a ecutek retune

MAMotorsports · 08-10-2017, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckie311

here is what i have on my list of to dos so far..planning this for April or May of next year

JWT Stage 2 cams
suckerpunch upgraded oil pump

Stage 1 heads from import part pros
Heads inspected and cleaned
Heads redecked
Ported exhaust and intake runners
3 angle valve job
New OEM Valve stem seals installed
Valve Stem Heights set
Cold Clearance set for stock cams
Heads prepped and assembled

+1mm oversized valves

ported lower plenum

change plugs on car

change water pump

inspect timing chain

then a ecutek retune

Shoot me a PM, would love to chat about the build and see if I could be of any help. We may have some options that would work for what you are looking to do.

-Daelen

jrb55gh · 08-28-2017, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckie311

here is what i have on my list of to dos so far..planning this for April or May of next year

JWT Stage 2 cams
suckerpunch upgraded oil pump

Stage 1 heads from import part pros
Heads inspected and cleaned
Heads redecked
Ported exhaust and intake runners
3 angle valve job
New OEM Valve stem seals installed
Valve Stem Heights set
Cold Clearance set for stock cams
Heads prepped and assembled

+1mm oversized valves

ported lower plenum

change plugs on car

change water pump

inspect timing chain

then a ecutek retune

The C2 cams should have an incredible midrange charge with the 350 HR plenum. I can't wait to see the dyno. Hope you will do one.

chuckie311 · 08-28-2017, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrb55gh

The C2 cams should have an incredible midrange charge with the 350 HR plenum. I can't wait to see the dyno. Hope you will do one.

while i am doing a before and after dyno its more than just cams i am doing so i wont have any true cam numbers..
this is my list

JWT Stage 2 cams
suckerpunch upgraded oil pump
Urethane Transmission Mount
Urethane Motor Mounts
Ported throttle bodies
ported lower plenum
new spark plugs
new water pump
Wilwood Big Brake Kit, Front & Rear
3 inch intake (AdminTuning)

Whjaxn17 · 08-10-2017, 01:44 PM

great work and results. I'm definitely adding these to the list. Can't make it stretch at the moment, but I'm definitely in for future reference. Keep it up guys

Also, Derraj, PM sent

MAMotorsports · 08-15-2017, 03:11 PM

Group buy posted!

GROUP BUY: Jim Wolf Technology C2 Cam set

SurfDog · 08-19-2017, 12:10 AM

I verified gen 2 cams on my heads coming from IPP. short block stage 2 from Z1. the car should be on the dyno by mid September

MAMotorsports · 08-21-2017, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SurfDog

I verified gen 2 cams on my heads coming from IPP. short block stage 2 from Z1. the car should be on the dyno by mid September

You may want to double check this, as we are the only retailer of the C2 camshafts currently. They will have to buy them from me directly and I do not have any orders from them as of now.

-Daelen

SurfDog · 08-22-2017, 06:45 AM

Hmm I will. I just spoke with them and he said they only have been out for a week or so and he got them directly from JWT.

Ape Factory · 08-28-2017, 09:40 PM

MA, can you comment on the G37 that gained like 60+ wheel hp? I saw the post on Facebook but I'd like more information. I understand the changes were Motordyne headers, C2 cams and I'm assuming a tune.

I don't know what dyno you're using but noticed the baseline numbers were like 220 something. Just wondering if you could elaborate further.

08-09-2017, 10:10 PM	#2 (permalink)
derraj06 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 406 Drives: MB 370z Rep Power: 13	I have already spoken with phunk about his manifold and my application as I chat with him often. He's not of the opinion that his manifold would produce any significant gains at this point. The factory manifold design is actually very good as evident by it still making power above redline with these cams. The issue is getting air into the manifold currently. Is that intake piping? It's likely a part of it. Is it TB diameter? Also likely. There's also a decent chance selective porting of the upper and perhaps lower can yield some gains as well. I'll be working with Daelen to test once we can decide what the next step is. Personally, I'm gathering a list of options for the TBs and intake piping. It's a game of matching all the parts for a given goal for me. __________________ 2010 Monterey Blue 370Z

08-10-2017, 09:02 AM	#4 (permalink)
derraj06 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 406 Drives: MB 370z Rep Power: 13	Yeah, we've talked over this engine for a long time and some of those parts are still on list of things we could try. The crank is likely to happen but there are other options currently. If all goes to plan I'll likely build a new short block with some sort of increased compression and go flex fuel for the street. That's the easy part, it is just a matter of budget and timing. The head work is a bit more tedious. As of today there are not parts to do what I want to do, similar to these C2 cams not existing. I"m stubborn and do not want to give up the VHR heads until they simply cannot do what I want to do. Lucky for me I think MA is curious enough to keep working on solutions. As for the Jun cams, I talked to Jun about them for a while. Without a similar short block build to how they tested them, they did not recommend using them. That was surprising to me. __________________ 2010 Monterey Blue 370Z

08-10-2017, 10:01 AM	#5 (permalink)
lj909 Track Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Riverside Posts: 584 Drives: 40th 370Z Rep Power: 14	I've got a set of the EPS 70mm throttles combined with AAM intakes. I can tell you they do make more power. __________________ PW 07 HR350Z R.I.P. Totaled by 82yr old woman 2010 40th Anniversary 370Z

08-10-2017, 11:27 AM	#6 (permalink)
chuckie311 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: las vegas Posts: 313 Drives: Q50/G37 Rep Power: 14	here is what i have on my list of to dos so far..planning this for April or May of next year JWT Stage 2 cams suckerpunch upgraded oil pump Stage 1 heads from import part pros Heads inspected and cleaned Heads redecked Ported exhaust and intake runners 3 angle valve job New OEM Valve stem seals installed Valve Stem Heights set Cold Clearance set for stock cams Heads prepped and assembled +1mm oversized valves ported lower plenum change plugs on car change water pump inspect timing chain then a ecutek retune __________________ Tuned by (Seb@Specialty-Z) 2011 G37 Cam'd FBO 347whp 280wtq Corn Fed 4.08 Gears

08-10-2017, 01:44 PM	#10 (permalink)
Whjaxn17 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Alabama Age: 31 Posts: 420 Drives: 17 370Z 6MT Rep Power: 3366	great work and results. I'm definitely adding these to the list. Can't make it stretch at the moment, but I'm definitely in for future reference. Keep it up guys Also, Derraj, PM sent __________________ 377whp/299wtq NA 704whp/519wtq, SOHO stage 2.5 IG: pearlywhite.z

08-10-2017, 02:35 AM	#3 (permalink)
Elmo370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: st. petersburg Posts: 5,730 Drives: 09 nissan 370z Sp M6 Rep Power: 295380	Awesome sauce. You could go with a Bryant racing crank and forged internals. Bump the compression up 11:5 or something higher if you have a steady supply of E. add in some cylinder head work to support higher revs or get a bigger cam something like the jun 288??? Maybe??

08-15-2017, 03:11 PM	#11 (permalink)
MAMotorsports Track Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Glen Arm, MD Posts: 872 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 18	Group buy posted! GROUP BUY: Jim Wolf Technology C2 Cam set __________________ Daelen @ MA Motorsports MA-Motorsports.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/MA-Mo...C/125379858828

08-19-2017, 12:10 AM	#12 (permalink)
SurfDog A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2012 Location: Colorado (9000 feet) Age: 58 Posts: 1,796 Drives: 09 6mt, 13 Sequoia, Rep Power: 15750	I verified gen 2 cams on my heads coming from IPP. short block stage 2 from Z1. the car should be on the dyno by mid September __________________ 09 6spd Berk CBE, JWT cams, ZSpeed CSC, Stillen (25 row oil, brake cooling, sways, gen3 CAI), Passport (9500ci), Quaife LSD, Z1 400 hp kit, ss lines, pads, rotors, clutch etc, Phunk's pan and fuel starve fix

08-22-2017, 06:45 AM	#14 (permalink)
SurfDog A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2012 Location: Colorado (9000 feet) Age: 58 Posts: 1,796 Drives: 09 6mt, 13 Sequoia, Rep Power: 15750	Hmm I will. I just spoke with them and he said they only have been out for a week or so and he got them directly from JWT. __________________ 09 6spd Berk CBE, JWT cams, ZSpeed CSC, Stillen (25 row oil, brake cooling, sways, gen3 CAI), Passport (9500ci), Quaife LSD, Z1 400 hp kit, ss lines, pads, rotors, clutch etc, Phunk's pan and fuel starve fix

08-28-2017, 09:40 PM	#15 (permalink)
Ape Factory Base Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: San Antonio Posts: 210 Drives: Audi RS5/QX70S Rep Power: 11	MA, can you comment on the G37 that gained like 60+ wheel hp? I saw the post on Facebook but I'd like more information. I understand the changes were Motordyne headers, C2 cams and I'm assuming a tune. I don't know what dyno you're using but noticed the baseline numbers were like 220 something. Just wondering if you could elaborate further. __________________ '13 Audi RS5 Misano w/mods-The Red Mist '13 G37 IPL-SOLD

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