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pbpd4816 02-04-2010 12:48 AM

ZForce, what do you think of Amsoil SS0W-30? Is this what your running? This is the first time I have ever used Amsoil....

AK370Z 02-04-2010 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 387269)
Thanks For the Diy AK! I just changed over to Red Line and it indeed is more quiet at idle, I went ahead and also installed the FilterMag and the Drain Plug Mag.

Very nice man! :tup: Pretty easy to do right?

Trips 02-04-2010 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by AK370Z (Post 387296)
Very nice man! :tup: Pretty easy to do right?

Yea for sure! :tup:

vipor 02-04-2010 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 387298)
Yea for sure! :tup:

Welcome to the party, sir. :icon23:

ZForce 02-05-2010 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by pbpd4816 (Post 387289)
ZForce, what do you think of Amsoil SS0W-30? Is this what your running? This is the first time I have ever used Amsoil....

Amsoil has it on its website as a recommendation for the VQ37 VHR 370Z along with these other weights:

https://www.amsoil.com/a/synthetic-motor-oil-engine-oil

Engine Oil
Grade 1......API*
Signature Series 0W-30 100% Synthetic Motor Oil (SSOQT)
SAE 5W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil (ASLQT)
XL 5W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil (XLFQT)


I have personally not tried any of the Amsoil motor oil. They have a great reputation (and expensive) versus other off the shelf brands. They are for long drains hence the $$ and I guess you would break even if not save by using their long drain oil.

I ran Pennzoil Platinum 5w-30 during my initial drain(s) (a lot of drains during the first 1500 miles). And have since switched to a more stable and consistent formula recommended by dyson labs. It’s very $$ and is for longer drains hence I probably break even if if not a bit ahead if I were to use Nissan Esther based oil.

I am going off topic again and suggested this on my first post on this thread that a new topic thread should be opened up on used oil analysis. A place to start posting reports from used oil analysis. If you want to know which is best for the VQ37 VHR then I would highly recommend reading Will’s thread on my350z VQ Oil Analysis and Info - MY350Z.COM Forums on Oil and Used Oil Analysis, The first post has a chart on Amsoil oils. Even though it’s based on the VQ35 there is still a lot of information on his thread and what works on the VQ35 will probably be also good in the VQ37.

Keep in mind that the only way to find out what will work best in your car AND for your type of driving is to have a Used Oil Analysis performed. Will (Resolute) wrote up a thread either on this forum or one of the other 370Z forums on Nissan Ester based oil. Check out on his first page of thread on my350z the section on Ester based oils.

Personally I have found and read that Nissan Esther based oil is ONLY recommended IF you hear the clanking sound from the valve train. I never heard it with Pennzoil Platinum nor the oil I am currently using.

You can search my used oil analysis (UOA) on Will’s thread, I am ZeeForce on my350z.

Cheers
Curtis

zmyride 02-07-2010 03:58 AM

if you don't mind me asking, i'm a noob when it comes to oil change. where does this go and why is it necessary?

http://www.the370z.com/attachments/d...1102601m02.jpg

pbpd4816 02-07-2010 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by zmyride (Post 390944)
if you don't mind me asking, i'm a noob when it comes to oil change. where does this go and why is it necessary?

http://www.the370z.com/attachments/d...1102601m02.jpg

That goes on the oil drain plug. Be sure to get the old one off before you put the new one back on.

Paul_S 02-07-2010 04:14 AM

Yep, the copper washer squashes up and forms a good seal on the drain plug. Reusing the old one may not seal properly since it has already been squashed. It really isn't worth risking an oil leak for £1 (or probably $1 for you!)

Here's a picture of my old drain plug with squashed washer and my new magnetic one with a new washer on:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...goldandnew.jpg

I changed my oil for the first time yesterday. Thanks for this guide. The suggestion of using the electric driver on the bolts and the water bottle as a funnel was inspired and saved me loads of time :)

m4a1mustang 02-07-2010 07:42 AM

I just went to Autozone and spend $0.99 on a dedicated oil funnel. :)

zmyride 02-07-2010 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul_S (Post 390947)
Yep, the copper washer squashes up and forms a good seal on the drain plug. Reusing the old one may not seal properly since it has already been squashed. It really isn't worth risking an oil leak for £1 (or probably $1 for you!)

Here's a picture of my old drain plug with squashed washer and my new magnetic one with a new washer on:

I changed my oil for the first time yesterday. Thanks for this guide. The suggestion of using the electric driver on the bolts and the water bottle as a funnel was inspired and saved me loads of time :)

oh yeah, a pic is worth a thousand words. thanks.

SF_Phantom 02-13-2010 04:39 PM

Never seeing the underside of this engine, is that large pipe next to the filter the exhaust???

After looking at some of the pics that have been posted, I'm wondering if the longer oil filter sits closer to the hot exhaust pipe??? Is it possible that this could contribute to higher oil temps?

:confused: :rolleyes:

schrute 02-13-2010 08:55 PM

Naw, you're probably referring to the sway bar (black thing in the pic below). The exhaust is quite a bit further back.

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/s...e/DSC02924.jpg

SF_Phantom 02-14-2010 11:07 AM

Schrute,
Many thanks, looks like I'm going to use the larger filter.

Purolator "Pure One" it will be then along with a little Red Line... Sounds like I'm making a cocktail.

:bowrofl:

NeverBoneStck 02-14-2010 10:59 PM

I just switched to red line and let me tell you what .. This oil is awesome . I had the engine tick and had the tsb done with nissan ester oil . Still there . Mobil 1 is garbage , made it worse. I tried Amsoil , Motul and Royal Purple. All of these did not work . I put Red Line in and guess what ?? No tick and engine is alot smoother . I will only put Red Line in my G .. Awesome oil !!!!!

370zproject 02-16-2010 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by NeverBoneStck (Post 401816)
I just switched to red line and let me tell you what .. This oil is awesome . I had the engine tick and had the tsb done with nissan ester oil . Still there . Mobil 1 is garbage , made it worse. I tried Amsoil , Motul and Royal Purple. All of these did not work . I put Red Line in and guess what ?? No tick and engine is alot smoother . I will only put Red Line in my G .. Awesome oil !!!!!

:tiphat::tiphat:

AK370Z 02-16-2010 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by zmyride (Post 391435)
oh yeah, a pic is worth a thousand words. thanks.

:iagree: Thanks Paul for the picture :tup:. +1 rep.

Quote:

Originally Posted by schrute (Post 400643)
Naw, you're probably referring to the sway bar (black thing in the pic below). The exhaust is quite a bit further back.

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/s...e/DSC02924.jpg

:iagree: Exhaust is further back. It's the front sway bar.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeverBoneStck (Post 401816)
I just switched to red line and let me tell you what .. This oil is awesome . I had the engine tick and had the tsb done with nissan ester oil . Still there . Mobil 1 is garbage , made it worse. I tried Amsoil , Motul and Royal Purple. All of these did not work . I put Red Line in and guess what ?? No tick and engine is alot smoother . I will only put Red Line in my G .. Awesome oil !!!!!

:tup: Awesome. Thanks for you review.

chitown1863 02-17-2010 08:31 AM

Good Information
 
Thanks for the information...what size filtermag would you recommend for the Z? is the SS250 the perfect size?

Thanks,

schrute 02-17-2010 10:19 AM

^ SS250 is the correct size. HP250 if you want to spend a little more and get a stronger magnet.

370zproject 02-17-2010 11:38 PM

alright time to switch to Redline bye bye royal purple ...

370zproject 02-19-2010 02:51 AM

KICS-DRAIN-PLUG Kics Project Magnetic Drain Plug 16.00 1 16PLUG-SIZE MAG1-23295



will this fit?

m4a1mustang 02-19-2010 06:35 AM

If it's M12xP1.25 then yes.

And yes -- looks like that product code is for the M12xP1.25 plug.

370zproject 02-20-2010 12:13 AM

kk i hope its the right size they said it was better... just the one ak reccomended was on major backorder

blackflag 02-20-2010 12:28 AM

Listen to me.

I did my first oil change on the car. I've been changing oil on cars since I was a kid, and this is the most brutal oil change I've ever had to do.

Before I change the oil in this thing again, I need: a suredrain plug (or similar), a remote oil filter location, or a hoist - or some combination of the above.

And I can't believe how pathetically small the stock filter was. You've got to be kidding me.

:ughdance:

AK370Z 02-20-2010 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 370zproject (Post 409207)
kk i hope its the right size they said it was better... just the one ak reccomended was on major backorder

Sorry about that. You can order ANY magnetic drain plug as long as it's
M12xP1.25 size as M4a1 mentioned.



Quote:

Originally Posted by blackflag (Post 409235)
Listen to me.

I did my first oil change on the car. I've been changing oil on cars since I was a kid, and this is the most brutal oil change I've ever had to do.

Before I change the oil in this thing again, I need: a suredrain plug (or similar), a remote oil filter location, or a hoist - or some combination of the above.

And I can't believe how pathetically small the stock filter was. You've got to be kidding me.

:ughdance:

SOME members open the rear flap and changes their oil. You can look into it. It's like 3 bolts instead of 16. But you'll probably make more mess if it's windy out. I say buy a power screwdriver and your job will be so much easier.

The stock oil filter IS pretty small :ugh:

blackflag 02-20-2010 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by AK370Z (Post 409245)
SOME members open the rear flap and changes their oil. You can look into it. It's like 3 bolts instead of 16. But you'll probably make more mess if it's windy out. I say buy a power screwdriver and your job will be so much easier.

With the cover or without, there just wasn't enough room under there...I could only use my left hand, and the filter was cranked on there...dry gasket, I think. Man, what a mess. You really need to be standing under it.


Quote:

Originally Posted by AK370Z (Post 409245)
The stock oil filter IS pretty small :ugh:

Man, no kidding...I don't know what they were thinking. I wouldn't put that thing on a Honda Civic. I had an Eclipse a while back... it had two size filters, and I always put the bigger one on. So I bought both of those, hoping to put the bigger one. It wouldn't fit, because of the alternator, so I wound up using the small Eclipse filter - at least it was bigger than stock. (I'm pretty sure it's the same size you used in your writeup, actually.)

If there's just a little room to put a remote filter, then I could switch to a better size...and it would be easy to put in the lines once I put a cooler on there...but I just can't see where to put it without standing underneath it.


Anyways, I'm SO glad to have the original oil out and fresh oil in. Still haven't pushed the engine real hard yet...getting anxious. :)

schrute 02-20-2010 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackflag (Post 409235)
Listen to me.

I did my first oil change on the car. I've been changing oil on cars since I was a kid, and this is the most brutal oil change I've ever had to do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackflag (Post 409262)
With the cover or without, there just wasn't enough room under there...I could only use my left hand, and the filter was cranked on there...dry gasket, I think. Man, what a mess. You really need to be standing under it.

Listen to me. (haha I love that)

Did you use ramps? Makes all the difference in the world.

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackflag (Post 409262)
Anyways, I'm SO glad to have the original oil out and fresh oil in.

Preach on brotha :tup:

370zproject 02-20-2010 01:56 AM

[QUOTE=AK370Z;409245]Sorry about that. You can order ANY magnetic drain plug as long as it's
M12xP1.25 size as M4a1 mentioned





PLUG-SIZE MAG1-23295 that will work then correct?

FricFrac 02-20-2010 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schrute (Post 409389)
Listen to me. (haha I love that)

Did you use ramps? Makes all the difference in the world.



Preach on brotha :tup:

Lol - yea "Listen to me." Nice :)

There are threads on here about the larger Pure One filter if it makes you feel better putting the bigger filter in....

schao 02-20-2010 04:12 AM

ok so what i dont understand is, where are those metal shavings coming from that the magnets pick up? i know that the engine is aluminum so a magnet wont pick up aluminum bits. so is it coming from piston rings? parts attached to the crankshaft breaking in?

370zproject 02-20-2010 07:25 AM

also whats the best way to get all the oil out when i put the royal purple in i think i missed some.. the oil kept looking drity... after we filled it up do u need to lower it and let it drain?

Trips 02-20-2010 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schao (Post 409499)
ok so what i dont understand is, where are those metal shavings coming from that the magnets pick up? i know that the engine is aluminum so a magnet wont pick up aluminum bits. so is it coming from piston rings? parts attached to the crankshaft breaking in?

from the rotating parts as it breaks in...

zmyride 02-21-2010 04:24 AM

is the magnetic drain plug really necessary?

I mean if you already have the filter mag, that seems to take care the job already. A mag plug is overkill, yes?

spearfish25 02-21-2010 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zmyride (Post 410718)
is the magnetic drain plug really necessary?

I mean if you already have the filter mag, that seems to take care the job already. A mag plug is overkill, yes?

Probably overkill. But it's cheap and doesn't hurt anything, so why not? The first time you change you oil and wipe a shaving off that plug, you'll the purchase for yourself.

SF_Phantom 02-21-2010 11:18 AM

Wonder if someone might want to put a package purchase together for both mags (drain plug) (the strong mag for the filter), Redline oil, Purolator Pure One filter and crush washers. If we got a bunch of us, we should be able to save some major bucks. Hopefully we could find one supplier and we could order it from them as a package deal. That away the forum wouldn't have to have any sales licenses but they would get in big time with the supplier....everyone wins....

It could be the "the370z.com" special

I would do it but I don't know the suppliers...

Just a thought

Thx in advance :tup:

370zproject 02-22-2010 06:28 AM

i kinda like the idea

vipor 02-22-2010 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SF_Phantom (Post 410949)
Wonder if someone might want to put a package purchase together for both mags (drain plug) (the strong mag for the filter), Redline oil, Purolator Pure One filter and crush washers. If we got a bunch of us, we should be able to save some major bucks. Hopefully we could find one supplier and we could order it from them as a package deal. That away the forum wouldn't have to have any sales licenses but they would get in big time with the supplier....everyone wins....

It could be the "the370z.com" special

I would do it but I don't know the suppliers...

Just a thought

Thx in advance :tup:

Good idurra

370zproject 02-22-2010 11:53 PM

so basicly this size will work MAG1-23295 ?

370zproject 02-23-2010 01:06 PM

and the best way to get all the oil out is to lower back to the ground so as not at a angle?

zmyride 02-23-2010 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 370zproject (Post 413899)
and the best way to get all the oil out is to lower back to the ground so as not at a angle?

how do you plan to do that?

turn the engine on, drive off the ramp, while there's no oil?

vipor 02-23-2010 06:44 PM

uhm, lower the jack/jackstands if you aren't using ramps..... or neutral and push (with someone in the car hovering the brake.

project: it's not worth worrying about, just take what oil you can get


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