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nmjaxx9 09-09-2012 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by crazyyankfan (Post 1907716)
It is very weird I must say. A sudden rev-up should not bump up the oil temp that much. Sometimes on the highway I would downshift to 3 or 4 to pass some Prius cruising at 50 in the left lane, but I hardly see any increase in oil temp if it's just occasional high rpm. On the other hand, cruising at 80 mph for half hour will do. For 6MT, the engine rev at 3000 rpm in 6th at 80 mph.

Yeah I don't know have to see if any other 7AT owners have noticed it in theirs. But I do know when I see the oil temps climbing I just put it back into D and its back to normal. :driving:

Kabestro 11-06-2012 08:12 AM

I'm about to change my oil for the first time on my '13 Z, one question, is the oil drain plug the same as the 09-12 models M12X1.25? Also is Royal Purple an Ester based oil? I want Redline but it's a little hard for me to get here in PR.

Bought a Dimple magnetic plug, is it better to use it with the washer it comes with or swap it for copper washers?

Kabestro 11-13-2012 07:03 PM

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Just bought a Magnetic plug, should I use the washer it came with or should I use a crushable copper washer? Or both?

JARblue 11-13-2012 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kabestro (Post 2014789)
Just bought a Magnetic plug, should I use the washer it came with or should I use a crushable copper washer? Or both?

I used the standard copper crush washer, but I have a bunch of them from the dealership. The one that came with it is probably fine as well though. For some reason I like replacing the washer with a new crush one. :shrugs:

onzedge 11-14-2012 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2015237)
I used the standard copper crush washer, but I have a bunch of them from the dealership. The one that came with it is probably fine as well though. For some reason I like replacing the washer with a new crush one. :shrugs:

:iagree:

jsl370 12-24-2012 05:54 PM

Why can you not use and reuse the washer that comes with the drain plug? Is it necessary to use the OEM copper compressions washer??

Trips 12-24-2012 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jsl370 (Post 2075630)
Why can you not use and reuse the washer that comes with the drain plug? Is it necessary to use the OEM copper compressions washer??

It's merely a safety precaution.

Some would prefer not to risk a potential leak over a .50 copper washer.

A compression washer ensures a good seal so it won't leak thats why their used

JARblue 12-24-2012 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 2075637)
It's merely a safety precaution.

Some would prefer not to risk a potential leak over a .50 copper washer.

A compression washer ensures a good seal so it won't leak thats why their used

I agree with everything you said here, except the washers cost me $1 apiece from the dealership ;)

ZForce 12-24-2012 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jsl370 (Post 2075630)
Why can you not use and reuse the washer that comes with the drain plug? Is it necessary to use the OEM copper compressions washer??


Not neccessary, if you like rolling the dice and replacing an engine. That is why they are called crush washer...use it once, it gets crushed, then trash it on refill. Just spend the 8 bits and call it a day.

jsl370 12-28-2012 12:46 PM

does the filterMag you got fit the purolator oil filter? i followed you link and realized there are many different sizes and styles. just want to be sure i get the correct size.

jsl370 12-28-2012 12:55 PM

NVM, i see that the there are just two sizes with different Mag strengths...

jsl370 12-28-2012 01:54 PM

just purchased 10 crush washers from ebay for $5.79

Augustus 01-17-2013 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jsl370 (Post 2081794)
just purchased 10 crush washers from ebay for $5.79

:iagree:

Me too. I bought them on Sunday, they arrived on Wednesday. $5.79, free shipping. Seller is "transglobalauto".

For anyone on the fence, it's an easy an cheap way to get the correct crush washers without visiting the dealership. ;)

Looking forward to doing my own oil change on the Z in a few weeks, thanks in no small part to this thread. :tup:

ZForce 01-17-2013 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Augustus (Post 2115758)
:iagree:

Me too. I bought them on Sunday, they arrived on Wednesday. $5.79, free shipping. Seller is "transglobalauto".

For anyone on the fence, it's an easy an cheap way to get the correct crush washers without visiting the dealership. ;)

Looking forward to doing my own oil change on the Z in a few weeks, thanks in no small part to this thread. :tup:

I get mine for FREE, when visiting MY dealership. One of the perks for buying 4 Z's with them. :tiphat:

JARblue 01-17-2013 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ZForce (Post 2117135)
I get mine for FREE, when visiting MY dealership. One of the perks for buying 4 Z's with them. :tiphat:

That's awesome! :tup: :tup:

As much as I would like to own 4 Z's, I'm thinking it'll be cheaper just to pay the $1, thanks :tiphat: :icon17:

ZForce 01-17-2013 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2117147)
That's awesome! :tup: :tup:


As much as I would like to own 4 Z's, I'm thinking it'll be cheaper just to pay the $1, thanks :tiphat: :icon17:

Dunno know, 4 times the adrenaline versus a buck.....adrenaline will win every time. :tup:
You are too kind good sir. Been meaning to ask you about your screen name and cannot figure out if its an abbreviation or has some other meaning. If you dont mind, curious mind asking. Woould even bribe you with a rep point...haha.

Also I hope you ae still driving the Z to the ground on the odo readiing :tiphat:

JARblue 01-18-2013 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ZForce (Post 2117587)
Dunno know, 4 times the adrenaline versus a buck.....adrenaline will win every time. :tup:
You are too kind good sir. Been meaning to ask you about your screen name and cannot figure out if its an abbreviation or has some other meaning. If you dont mind, curious mind asking. Woould even bribe you with a rep point...haha.

Also I hope you ae still driving the Z to the ground on the odo readiing :tiphat:

can't disagree with you there :tiphat: :driving:

JAR = my initials James A Rickard
blue = my favorite color as a kid

I still have a JARblue at aol.com account that has been active since 1995 :icon17: I love those reps :yum:

Yes sir I am! 30K in 21 months :tup: Tomorrow my buddy is helping with mass fluid swap mostly just to go to all synthetic - basically everything except for the oil, which I did recently :tup:

XwChriswX 01-18-2013 12:43 AM

My Magnetic drain plug came with a rubber washer that hasn't show any signs of failure, so no copper crush washers needed. :tup:

ZForce 01-18-2013 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2117624)
can't disagree with you there :tiphat: :driving:

JAR = my initials James A Rickard
blue = my favorite color as a kid

I still have a JARblue at aol.com account that has been active since 1995 :icon17: I love those reps :yum:

Yes sir I am! 30K in 21 months :tup: Tomorrow my buddy is helping with mass fluid swap mostly just to go to all synthetic - basically everything except for the oil, which I did recently :tup:

Ahh...good screen name. nice to meet ya James. I see you are located near Pintsize725 (Tracie), helped her out a few times on mods. :tup: We are friends on FB. Blue was also my fav color as a kid. I wish they would bring back the Daytona Blue for Z34.

I have gone synth on all oils with aftermarket mostly Redline through out the body fluids. Never went with water wetter for coolant, stuck with the green stuff by Nissan. Probably should change out the power steering fluid....any suggestions on preferred brand? Should have gone ATE Blue for brake and clutch fluid but was in a hurry to have onzedge's son to flushi it and went with only availible fast off the shelf - Valvoline...oh well next time.

g/l on fluid swaps tomorrow, answer if you have time.

Rep coming your way :

Cheers - Curtis Lewis

ZForce 01-18-2013 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2117629)
My Magnetic drain plug came with a rubber washer that hasn't show any signs of failure, so no copper crush washers needed. :tup:

Mine too, although my first magnetic drain plug from Jegs, I think used by OP of thread, stripped out on first drain.....tossed the piece of crap and researched for a stronger harder material drain plug....the brand and linky is on this thread somewhere about a gizzillian pages back....if interested. Been using the same rubber gasket for the last 18 k miles on this plug. :tup:

JARblue 01-18-2013 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ZForce (Post 2117678)
Ahh...good screen name. nice to meet ya James. I see you are located near Pintsize725 (Tracie), helped her out a few times on mods. :tup: We are friends on FB. Blue was also my fav color as a kid. I wish they would bring back the Daytona Blue for Z34.

I have gone synth on all oils with aftermarket mostly Redline through out the body fluids. Never went with water wetter for coolant, stuck with the green stuff by Nissan. Probably should change out the power steering fluid....any suggestions on preferred brand? Should have gone ATE Blue for brake and clutch fluid but was in a hurry to have onzedge's son to flushi it and went with only availible fast off the shelf - Valvoline...oh well next time.

g/l on fluid swaps tomorrow, answer if you have time.

Rep coming your way :

Cheers - Curtis Lewis

Same to you, Curtis :tiphat: I am near Ms. Pint, she's just around the corner. I don't use FB, but I'm on the forum enough :tup:

I'm not planning to touch the coolant - generic is fine with me. I picked up Redline's Dexron VI Automatic Transmission Fluid for the power steering - I plan to just swap out the reservoir with the new stuff rather than bleed the whole system. My buddy has gallons of the ATE Super Blue, so we'll use that for brake and clutch :tup: I have a post in the What Did You Do With Your Z Today (On-Topic) and will be posting there after it's done, too.

Nice chatting with you :tup:

ZForce 01-18-2013 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2117795)
Same to you, Curtis :tiphat: I am near Ms. Pint, she's just around the corner. I don't use FB, but I'm on the forum enough :tup:

I'm not planning to touch the coolant - generic is fine with me. I picked up Redline's Dexron VI Automatic Transmission Fluid for the power steering - I plan to just swap out the reservoir with the new stuff rather than bleed the whole system. My buddy has gallons of the ATE Super Blue, so we'll use that for brake and clutch :tup: I have a post in the What Did You Do With Your Z Today (On-Topic) and will be posting there after it's done, too.

Nice chatting with you :tup:

Likewise and thanks for the 411 on power steering fluid. I too have Redline through out the car except for engine oil, I am using a special brand recommended by Terry Dyson of dysonanalysis.com. :tiphat:

JARblue 01-18-2013 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ZForce (Post 2119299)
Likewise and thanks for the 411 on power steering fluid. I too have Redline through out the car except for engine oil, I am using a special brand recommended by Terry Dyson of dysonanalysis.com. :tiphat:

:tiphat:

I did the tranny and diff today, but we left the brake/clutch for another day since we did it at lunch :icon17: And I'm going to swap out the power steering reservoir in my garage this weekend. I like Mobil 1 because it gives me an option if I ever have to take it somewhere for oil change, but I like the idea of a specially recommended oil from a professional. Mind if I ask what the brand is and whether they do anything specific for your car vs another car using the same type?

ZForce 01-18-2013 09:18 PM

The low down on my choice of oil and extra goodies not disclosed.
 
^ :tiphat: :tiphat:

Each car will perform different with different results after a oil analysis with many factors to consider, like geographic location in the USA i.e. if your area is in a very dusty high winds and lots of flat rural land to stir up sand and such. Driving habits, non driving habits like if your commute is so short the oil does not get up to operating normal operating temps like me, commute is 3.5 miles one way, but I make up for on the weekends. Still the condensation that builds up and does not burn off during the short commute. How the engine was originally broken in and what type of oil was used during break in and now during long term use. How often the air filter is cleaned and replaced. How the oil withstands the interval and if it deteoriates or breaks down before the 3750 mile oil changel, to name just a few. Terry Dyson does a full out ADVANCED oil analysis that puts BlackStone (BS) to shame. BlackStone is good, but does not perform the additional tests and Terry provides an mpeg audio file commentary on the tests results and suggestions and definitions of all included in the data from a used oil analysis (UOA) test report. If you know and are educated in reading more in the data that BS provides then you can save money and just go with BS. I have always spent the extra $$ and its well worth it. I can email back and forth for more explanations and trial and error between UOA's. Terry also has additonal recommendations and most important the price includes his assistance in tuning the engine that I cannot go into as that would be taking away from his services, plus each car is different even though make and model are identical. They were not built the same and the metalology within the interanl parts used can differ and wear differently. It's highly unlikely that two Z's with the same oil and such would produce identical UOA's. The situation can be duplicated but alot of conditions have to be the same.

I was one of the first to have a large block engine approved for replacement by Nissan North America (NNA) with my brothers 2006 350Z RevUp engine. During the oil consumption days I started using Terry Dyson and especially after the engine swap he provided alot of break in procedures, pretty well known but some are controversial practices on breakin. In a nutshell alot of RevUp owners went thru two and three engine swaps and some had buybacks from NNA. Mine was good, not perfect, and it turned out like initially discussed on the humungious thread on my350Z which I maintained the opening thread after the original poster sold his Z and went back to Honda S2K. He gave me his password to specifically update the opening post with updates from NNA. I have not updated it since 2009. Terry Dyson helped me with the breakin and other Terry secrets for maintaining a non oil consuming engine. After about 1 year I stopped using his service, price increase and most important my UOA's were stablized with good numbers. I will from time to time send in a UOA sample to keep in check on the wear and especially to see if he has new products or has switch recommended oil. He has been using this brand for many years and still recommends it. But there are other secret mixes of fuel additives that have proven successful in a clean burning engine that he switches up from time to time. It's probably the only reason I would toss him a sample UOA. Or if I see a dramatic oil consumption.

With 44k miles on both 370Z's the bros has 2mm oil consumption on recommended with this oil of 5k oil change interval. So with the increased cost (more than Nissan's esther oil, plus freight factored in) it runs about IRC (about $15-17 per quart) and the oil change interval can be pushed out to 5k miles. I am changing both Z's at same time so I get a break by buying in gallon jugs. The fuel treatment runs me about $115 but that last me on both cars about 1.5 years with every fill up, both cars remember. Single car would last about 3 years. All in all I spend alot on oil BUT it has proven to be worth every penney. IMO...

There is a very informative thread over on my350z forum on oil education by member (Resolute), the link to the thread is below. I did use Mobil 1 on both 350Z's with decent results and after a few UOA's I switched to over the counter Penzoil Platinum Plus I also used this during my intial 1250 mile breakin on the 370Z with a regimental oil change at 75 miles, 250, then 500 miles during the first 3750 miles on the car. Then switched over to Terry Dysons recommended oil.

Another well know website forum is Bob is The Oil Guy......and there are probably several posts about Terry Dyson. He has since opened up his own forum discussion for premium yearly subscription members which come with two UOA's. I just went with the package that has the audio commentary on the UOA which I believe is now up to $150 for the Advanced UOA, that audio file alone is worth it's weight in gold. In additon he now offers for $79 (more in line with BlackStone) a RAW data UOA test results for your own interpretation. The guy knows his stuff and is well known through out the oil industry.

Okay this went alot farther than I had intended so here is the oil I use. Dont laugh the stuff really works and most people say what...that's xxxx oil. But dont laugh I have been using it since 2006 on four Z's and it surpasses many off the shelf oil. Now there is still the german brand of Castrol that is hard to get which had great results on 350Z's. Remember each car is different as I outlined only some of the differences above. Resolute's thread on my350Z goes more into detail on the differences of engines.

My oil consumption has been 8mm per oil change interval (OCI) of 5k miles. Pretty good, it's higher because I was rougher on the breakin and run higher revs than my brother's 370Z at 2mm per OCI.

So here is the linky.....I use the 5w-40...again it's more than just the oil that keeps my engine strong and clean with low oil consumption and most important the wear on the metalology.

Renewable Lubricants Inc.
Renewable Lubricants Inc

Terry Dyson: Dyson Analysis ...

Here is the oil education thread by Resolute.
VQ Oil Analysis and Info - MY350Z.COM Forums

And the famous oil consumtion thread. Btw: I am known on my350z as ZeeForce. Holy Bat-Poop the page count is up 233 pages, like I said probably the biggest thread page count on their forum.

RevUp Oil Consumption TSB and discussion - MY350Z.COM Forums

Bob is The Oil Guy:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/

Cheers,
Curtis Lewis
ZForce and ZeeForce

JARblue 01-18-2013 09:43 PM

I am familiar with some but certainly not all of that material. Very interesting :tup: Great, informative post, so thanks for that. I have some reading to do :icon17:

ZForce 01-19-2013 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2119518)
I am familiar with some but certainly not all of that material. Very interesting :tup: Great, informative post, so thanks for that. I have some reading to do :icon17:

Yeh I have wanted to for some time now spill my beans on the ever flaming topic "Not another oil thread" . I may just copy this post or link it over on the oil Consumption TSB thread on this forum as some good 411 on any member looking for more info (not that there isalready too much out there already) but spoken in a different language. I know first hand, as I have read some posts on the topic and realize I need a degree as a tribilogist to understand it. Let me know if you need any other info non disclosed above in a pm on fuel additives. :tiphat:

mjgarrera 04-07-2013 11:33 AM

Filter mag and magnetic drain plug?
 
Has anyone picked up o nthe fact that the z has an aluminum block and head... Therefore the filter mag is a waste of money.:werd:

LinPark 04-07-2013 11:57 AM

Aren't there other non-aluminum parts inside the engine that could break down?

JARblue 04-07-2013 12:13 PM

I believe there are a number of non-aluminum parts in the engine. I'm pretty sure the cylinder sleeves are ferrous, and then there are other parts such as crank, rods, rings, cams, rocker arms, etc...

Mandingo 04-07-2013 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mjgarrera (Post 2254992)
Has anyone picked up o nthe fact that the z has an aluminum block and head... Therefore the filter mag is a waste of money.:werd:

Nope, there is a good amount of ferromagnetic metal that gets into the oil pan. The proof is on my magnetic drain plug.

ZziK 07-14-2013 08:15 AM

Would going with a slightly bigger filter cause any type of damage to our engine?

mr300zxc 07-14-2013 11:39 AM

I just did my first oil change and use the 9E filter from Nissan, the parts manger is also a friend told me that's all they stock anymore.... it's just a little longer then stock and hold little bit more oil..

eastwest2300 07-16-2013 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mandingo (Post 2255061)
Nope, there is a good amount of ferromagnetic metal that gets into the oil pan. The proof is on my magnetic drain plug.

I agree with that, I'd rather have the filtermag on than not.

SCOOBY JOE 08-16-2013 09:52 AM

So I've been getting oil changes at the dealership and about to reach 30k I want to switch to motul, is it necessary if i daily drive my car?

JARblue 08-16-2013 10:33 AM

There are only about a billion threads on that topic, not to mention an entire forum called Bob the Oil Guy. Short answer: no.

onzedge 08-16-2013 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2448782)
There are only about a billion threads on that topic, not to mention an entire forum called Bob the Oil Guy. Short answer: no.

:iagree: Use the Search, Scooby, Let go, trust your feelings.

VincentLe 08-22-2013 09:11 AM

just making sure...can you reuse the magnetic drain plug? just have to replace that crush washer everytime correct?

JARblue 08-22-2013 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by VincentLe (Post 2456290)
just making sure...can you reuse the magnetic drain plug? just have to replace that crush washer everytime correct?

Correct. Drain plug = reusable. Crush Washer = replaceable. I have seen some people reuse a non-crush washer, but for piece of mind and the $1 apiece they cost at the local dealership, I use a new crush washer every time.

VincentLe 08-22-2013 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2456342)
Correct. Drain plug = reusable. Crush Washer = replaceable. I have seen some people reuse a non-crush washer, but for piece of mind and the $1 apiece they cost at the local dealership, I use a new crush washer every time.

def gonna get the magnetic drain plug and stock up on crush washers.
how many people are actually running the filtermag? not sure if i should get it or not.

also, what is a good brand for the magnetic drain plug?

fuct 08-23-2013 09:42 AM

http://www.the370z.com/members/fuct-...1000-miles.jpg

ive been running the industrial strength filtermag since day one.


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