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cotizi 06-15-2010 10:24 PM

i guess to clarify, i have a base 370z with sport wheels, just with nismo suspension. i just want to make sure i don't have fender issues.

ChrisSlicks 06-15-2010 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cotizi (Post 578902)
i guess to clarify, i have a base 370z with sport wheels, just with nismo suspension. i just want to make sure i don't have fender issues.

Suspension shouldn't make much of a difference in this case.

djpathfinder 06-15-2010 11:20 PM

Should be fine. Just measure out 20 mm from where your rim and tire edge are currently and see where they will sit in relation to the fender.

m4a1mustang 06-20-2010 08:12 PM

Hey guys, just confirmed today that you DO NOT need to mess with the parking brake assembly to pull in the new studs for the 20mm DRS spacers. Much easier (and faster) now. :)

cotizi 06-20-2010 08:20 PM

sweet. if stillen would hurry up ill get my spacers this week. :)

wheee! 06-21-2010 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 585916)
Hey guys, just confirmed today that you DO NOT need to mess with the parking brake assembly to pull in the new studs for the 20mm DRS spacers. Much easier (and faster) now. :)

Do you mean to disassemble the rotor from the emergency brake shoes or to install the studs? I had to remove the assembly to insert the studs on mine...? Did I miss something! lol

I know that most people should be able to remove the rotor without backing off the emergency brake assembly, but some will have to loosen it to remove the rotor...

LunaZ 07-03-2010 04:10 PM

Thanks for the write-up! Did my install in about an hour thanks to this :tup:

Trips 07-03-2010 04:14 PM

A little late but a much deserved Rep for a great DiY.
Thank You. wheee!

wheee! 08-27-2010 09:50 PM

Thank you for all the rep points! I am glad that this DIY helped so many people. Thanks to Josh at Stillen for posting the DIY on the Stillen blog too! :tup:

spearfish25 09-11-2010 06:05 PM

FWIW, don't be an idiot like I was when I tried this. I was working on the front wheel and, in haste to get things done, loosed the four bolts that hold the caliper together. I had three of them out and as I was loosening the fourth, I saw a puddle of brake fluid forming. Quickly realizing my stupidity, I put the caliper back together and bled it. Then I found out I didn't have a 22mm socket to remove the two bolts that actually hold the caliper in place. Project delayed and personal fail :(. So much for an engineering and medical degree to guide me through this one on the first try!

wheee! 09-11-2010 06:52 PM

Wowzer!.... Ya, the calipers are just fine without being disassembled!

Maybe I should post the link to the caliper removal etc at the beginning of the thread... (edit: done)

Hope it all worked out in the end for you Spearfish!

ChrisSlicks 09-11-2010 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 717285)
FWIW, don't be an idiot like I was when I tried this. I was working on the front wheel and, in haste to get things done, loosed the four bolts that hold the caliper together. I had three of them out and as I was loosening the fourth, I saw a puddle of brake fluid forming. Quickly realizing my stupidity, I put the caliper back together and bled it. Then I found out I didn't have a 22mm socket to remove the two bolts that actually hold the caliper in place. Project delayed and personal fail :(. So much for an engineering and medical degree to guide me through this one on the first try!

LOL, oops.

spearfish25 09-12-2010 08:58 PM

I had to bench the project until next weekend. I was trying to pop the spacers on in an hour before some family came over. Fortunately I got the caliper back together and bled in time for that, but no spacers yet. Also had to get to an autoX today which went pretty well. This next weekend will be spacer install revisited sans caliper disassembly :)

ChrisSlicks 09-12-2010 09:11 PM

Word to the wise as you replaced your power steering fluid. You're fine for the Auto-x but when you hit the track next make sure that your fluid is at the 'min' mark (hot or cold as appropriate). My fluid expanded enough to overflow because I had filled it to max, and it smells nasty. And that was with the Stillen PS cooler!

djpathfinder 09-12-2010 11:13 PM

Wow Spearfish...talk about doing it the hard way! LOL. Well, it should be pretty quick when you get to it again next weekend. Good luck.

m4a1mustang 09-12-2010 11:34 PM

I ended up doing a spacer install on 3 370Zs and uninstall on 1, so I am pretty quick with it now. Removing the calipers is fun.

ZForce 09-13-2010 12:02 AM

Hey spearfish, no worries it happens to the best of us. Glad it all worked out in the end.

I went with H&R 25mm in the rear (bolt on). Btw they look hawt on the 19 sport rims with the OEM Potenza tires. If you plan on going wider on the next set of tires then you may want to reconsider the 25mm in rear and go with somthing smaller. There are pics around here somewhere of mine.

Jquad 10-04-2010 01:39 AM

Nice Write Up :tup: +repo!

thispecialk 10-20-2010 06:27 AM

Hey I'm looking at ichiba version 2 spacers anyone have problems with them. So far I heard from my friend it's no good

wheee! 10-29-2010 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jquad (Post 749604)
Nice Write Up :tup: +repo!

Thanks! I appreciate the rep and I am glad to have helped a few people...

wheee! 10-29-2010 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by thispecialk (Post 773585)
Hey I'm looking at ichiba version 2 spacers anyone have problems with them. So far I heard from my friend it's no good

If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right. Therefore, stud replacement is always better IMO. Less chance of nuts coming loose, etc. The stud replacement is easy and I believe the more solid spacer is stronger than the V2 spacer with twice the drilled holes. Your wheels are now mounted to the car via the spacer, not the hub... think about that!

Paul_S 11-07-2010 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by wheee! (Post 586500)
Do you mean to disassemble the rotor from the emergency brake shoes or to install the studs? I had to remove the assembly to insert the studs on mine...? Did I miss something! lol

I know that most people should be able to remove the rotor without backing off the emergency brake assembly, but some will have to loosen it to remove the rotor...

I fitted mine today (+1 rep for this guide)

I didn't need to take the handbrake assembly off to get new studs for my 15mm spacers in. See below (you need to turn the hub as you line up the stud but it's simple to do):

http://forums.nissansportz.com/uploa..._77_174740.jpg

I hope that helps :)

wheee! 11-17-2010 01:30 PM

Looks good! I don't know if the studs are longer on the rear 20mm spacers or not, but I found that removing the brake assembly was quick and painless anyways....

Nice to see Z's in the UK! My family is from Derbyshire....

LMBmikeZ 01-01-2011 06:06 PM

so I guess in the end everyone (majority anyway) agree that the H&R DRS are the best bet, it makes sense to me why not to go with the DRM spacers............

rtrono 01-01-2011 06:56 PM

H&R DRS 15/20 done today. No problems at all. I haven't had a car I cared to work on in ages. I love this thing.

djpathfinder 01-01-2011 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by LMBmikeZ (Post 876109)
so I guess in the end everyone (majority anyway) agree that the H&R DRS are the best bet, it makes sense to me why not to go with the DRM spacers............

Yup, less to worry about with the DRS (replacement studs). In fact on our cars we can't use the DRM for the fronts.

LinPark 01-02-2011 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by rtrono (Post 876208)
H&R DRS 15/20 done today. No problems at all. I haven't had a car I cared to work on in ages. I love this thing.

Man, I wish you'd stop by my house then - I'm still stuck trying to get the first rotor off the front passenger side. I think the assembly folks mistakenly used Lock-Tite instead of Anti-Seize on just about every single part of my car. :mad:

rtrono 01-02-2011 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by LinPark (Post 876794)
Man, I wish you'd stop by my house then - I'm still stuck trying to get the first rotor off the front passenger side. I think the assembly folks mistakenly used Lock-Tite instead of Anti-Seize on just about every single part of my car. :mad:

I had to give mine a pretty good whack to break it loose but no problem.

LinPark 01-02-2011 01:49 PM

Well, I gave up on the front one until the Aerokroil arrives next week - moved to the rear set and can't manage to get the two 19mm bolts holding the brake in place to loosen up - not only did they use Lock-Tite, but I think the Incredible Hulk was doing a seminar on the assembly line that day. Sheesh! I might be getting on the phone tomorrow to get quotes on having this done! :shakes head:

rtrono 01-02-2011 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by LinPark (Post 876962)
Well, I gave up on the front one until the Aerokroil arrives next week - moved to the rear set and can't manage to get the two 19mm bolts holding the brake in place to loosen up - not only did they use Lock-Tite, but I think the Incredible Hulk was doing a seminar on the assembly line that day. Sheesh! I might be getting on the phone tomorrow to get quotes on having this done! :shakes head:

I had to give all the bolts a pretty good whack too. It will all come loose given enough force. Just be careful. I made very sure the car was lifted up real solid and climbed into the wheel well and just beat on it a little. Hold the wrench tight so it doesnt get away and damage anything.
You can do it.

ChrisSlicks 01-02-2011 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by LinPark (Post 876962)
Well, I gave up on the front one until the Aerokroil arrives next week - moved to the rear set and can't manage to get the two 19mm bolts holding the brake in place to loosen up - not only did they use Lock-Tite, but I think the Incredible Hulk was doing a seminar on the assembly line that day. Sheesh! I might be getting on the phone tomorrow to get quotes on having this done! :shakes head:

You're going to have to muscle it. Didn't have too much trouble with a 6-pt 1/2" socket and 18" ratchet. Definitely had to lean on it a little.

If it is anything like my car half the bolts on the drivers side were either cross-threaded or over torqued where as the passenger side was fine.

LinPark 01-02-2011 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 877009)
You're going to have to muscle it. Didn't have too much trouble with a 6-pt 1/2" socket and 18" ratchet. Definitely had to lean on it a little.

If it is anything like my car half the bolts on the drivers side were either cross-threaded or over torqued where as the passenger side was fine.

Bolts weren't a problem in the front because I could turn the rotors - have a nice 1/2" socket breaker bar (like 18") so plenty of leverage there - I can't seem to fit anything into the rear wheel well that gives me enough leverage not to mention one of the 19mm bolts in the rear has some cross arm blocking it so I can't really use a socket - stuck with a 19mm flare nut wrench for that one. I figured getting the rear ones off would be easy but torquing them back to 98 ft/lbs in that little space was going to be the challenge - boy was I wrong.

ChrisSlicks 01-02-2011 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by LinPark (Post 877061)
Bolts weren't a problem in the front because I could turn the rotors - have a nice 1/2" socket breaker bar (like 18") so plenty of leverage there - I can't seem to fit anything into the rear wheel well that gives me enough leverage not to mention one of the 19mm bolts in the rear has some cross arm blocking it so I can't really use a socket - stuck with a 19mm flare nut wrench for that one. I figured getting the rear ones off would be easy but torquing them back to 98 ft/lbs in that little space was going to be the challenge - boy was I wrong.

Hmm, think maybe I used a long 19mm box wrench on that one.

wheee! 01-06-2011 01:26 PM

Wow.... I really had no issues doing mine. The car was really quite new though and had only 700kms on it... that might have helped. Box wrenches are best for the rear and give them a slight tap with a mallet if you need to get them moving.

LinPark 01-06-2011 08:42 PM

Ok, progress is being made - had some spare time this evening and was able to get the front passenger side completely done. I'll need something like a 19mm XL GearWrench for the rears because the only reason I can get the front brake bolts loose is that I can turn the wheel and get plenty of leverage on it. By the time I get this done the exhaust should be here! :tup:

Holliday 01-08-2011 11:51 AM

I did not have any issues with mine either. I have all the proper tools and an impact gun so that helped speed the install. Good luck getting your finished. Hopefully before the exhaust arrives ;)

LinPark 01-09-2011 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul_S (Post 799603)
I didn't need to take the handbrake assembly off to get new studs for my 15mm spacers in. See below (you need to turn the hub as you line up the stud but it's simple to do):

http://forums.nissansportz.com/uploa..._77_174740.jpg

This might work for the 15mm but will not for the 20mm - the studs are just too long - plus I agree with wheee! that removing the parking brake items is a breeze.

At long last, I wrapped up my install this weekend - I was able to get the brake bolts free with the equipment I already had - here are some before/after shots:

http://www.the370z.com/members/linpa...5mm-fronts.jpg

http://www.the370z.com/members/linpa...20mm-rears.jpg

Thanks to everyone for the help and keeping me interested in finishing this project myself! :tup:

I think the car looks just awesome with this setup! And, I got it finished before the exhaust showed up. :rofl2:

m4a1mustang 01-09-2011 07:54 PM

Actually, it works for the 20mm. You just have to rotate the hub by hand a bit.

LinPark 01-09-2011 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 887869)
Actually, it works for the 20mm. You just have to rotate the hub by hand a bit.

Really? I tried and tried and just couldn't get the angle right I guess (thank God I never had that issue with my wife :bowrofl:). Had zero issues doing it the way that wheee! described (with the spacers that is, NOT my wife :tup:).

m4a1mustang 01-09-2011 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LinPark (Post 887874)
Really? I tried and tried and just couldn't get the angle right I guess (thank God I never had that issue with my wife :bowrofl:). Had zero issues doing it the way that wheee! described (with the spacers that is, NOT my wife :tup:).

I've done it both ways (:bowrofl:) and never had an issue. Like you said, moving the parking brake assembly is not hard at so it's up to personal preference I guess... :icon17:


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