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yep. keep disposable gloves, soft paper towels, and polymer based QD in your trunk. sure the paper towel could haze your finish if you're not careful, but 10000X better than

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Old 05-31-2013, 04:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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yep. keep disposable gloves, soft paper towels, and polymer based QD in your trunk.

sure the paper towel could haze your finish if you're not careful, but 10000X better than the crap etching your paint permanently.

after your done with the clean up, ball up the towel in your palm, and peel off the glove and flip it over to cover the towel. then tie it like a balloon. then you wont touch the crap at all and just toss it.
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after your done with the clean up, ball up the towel in your palm, and peel off the glove and flip it over to cover the towel. then tie it like a balloon. then you wont touch the crap at all and just toss it.
hmmm.....sounds like you're either familiar with the medical field or possibly a cleaner/murderer who's done this before.
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You should see the front of my Z. It has white dots all over it from rock chips. I sure wish I had done a clear bra. No matter what anyone says this paint chips flippin easy. Right after I bought the car I took a road trip from Vegas to Albuquerque and by the time I got back I couldn't believe the way the front of my car looked. I even tried to get it warrantied as it had less than 1,500 miles. Now it just looks like there is white paint splattered all over the front of my car. Oh well I knew about it before I bought the Z and didn't get the clear bra which was a mistake.


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Sounds like a good time to buy Dr. Color Chip.
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Sounds like a good time to buy Dr. Color Chip.
That crap wont work tried it already.
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That crap wont work tried it already.
I've been using Dr. Colorchip for years. You just need to learn how to use it. The first thing is patience.
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my monterey blue z had pretty bad orange peel. I've heard nissan skimps on the paint job to keep costs down :/ anyway, my next z will be pearl white
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my monterey blue z had pretty bad orange peel. I've heard nissan skimps on the paint job to keep costs down :/ anyway, my next z will be pearl white
The orange peel issue has become more apparent with all manufacturers over the last decade+

That doesn't have to do with poor paint technique as much as the modernization of fleet painting in regard to environmental impact. Without getting too technical, paint (both colored and clear) can't atomize as well as it could before these large companies embraced environmentally-friendly painting chemicals and techniques.

The sad thing is that it's very difficult to fix orange peel on factory paint as it's a surface flaw in a very, very thin clear coat. My Z had it all over the rear fenders, but luckily the rest of the car was pretty decent.
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The orange peel issue has become more apparent with all manufacturers over the last decade+

That doesn't have to do with poor paint technique as much as the modernization of fleet painting in regard to environmental impact. Without getting too technical, paint (both colored and clear) can't atomize as well as it could before these large companies embraced environmentally-friendly painting chemicals and techniques.

The sad thing is that it's very difficult to fix orange peel on factory paint as it's a surface flaw in a very, very thin clear coat. My Z had it all over the rear fenders, but luckily the rest of the car was pretty decent.
Orange peel is caused by incorrect painting technique. There are many factors on how it is caused.
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Orange peel is caused by incorrect painting technique. There are many factors on how it is caused.
That may have been the case before manufacturers had to change their paint to conform with environmental regulations, but it is simply not the case now.

The orange peel phenomenon plagues entire ranges of brand new cars from many manufacturers due to the requirement that they use non-toxic paints that don't atomize or cure as well as older paint blends.

Couple that lower-quality paint with the thinnest paint layers that the manufacturer can get away with and you'll see orange peel. It happens on many volume manufacturers from Ford to BMW.

Other manufacturers such as Porsche, MB, Audi, Aston Martin, and other higher-end/marquee brands tend to experience less orange peel due to more liberal application of these newer paints which are usually water-based.

Technique can only go so far when your materials and cost need to meet a certain specification.
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That may have been the case before manufacturers had to change their paint to conform with environmental regulations, but it is simply not the case now.

The orange peel phenomenon plagues entire ranges of brand new cars from many manufacturers due to the requirement that they use non-toxic paints that don't atomize or cure as well as older paint blends.

Couple that lower-quality paint with the thinnest paint layers that the manufacturer can get away with and you'll see orange peel. It happens on many volume manufacturers from Ford to BMW.

Other manufacturers such as Porsche, MB, Audi, Aston Martin, and other higher-end/marquee brands tend to experience less orange peel due to more liberal application of these newer paints which are usually water-based.

Technique can only go so far when your materials and cost need to meet a certain specification.
Yep. Thanks, EPA. Water based ********.
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I have thought about giving that a try, at worst I still would need to get it repainted at some point, at best it would look decent. Can't hurt at this point.
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I have thought about giving that a try, at worst I still would need to get it repainted at some point, at best it would look decent. Can't hurt at this point.
It's great stuff.
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9 month bump?

FWIW, my DD 2011 Gun Metallic Z looks incredible ... from 10+ feet away
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part of the problem might be the soft paint, the other part is the person washing and drying it.
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