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So, after reading a bit about the composition of two of Meguiars waxes, NXT 2.0 and the new Gold Class Plus Carnauba Wax, I figured I would do an experiment.

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Old 07-22-2010, 07:59 AM   #1 (permalink)
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So, after reading a bit about the composition of two of Meguiars waxes, NXT 2.0 and the new Gold Class Plus Carnauba Wax, I figured I would do an experiment.

The NXT 2.0, per Meguiars, is 100% synthetic polymers and is their best protecting and longest lasting wax. I started by applying the liquid wax by hand to the car and removing with an orbital buffer with microfiber. From what I have seen and been told, the NXT 2.0 is a wax but also functions very well as a sealant. I figured this would protect the paint well as a base coat.

To add some complexity to the shine and maybe an interesting tinge, I went to the Gold Plus Carnauba wax on top of the applied NXT 2.0. I did wait about an hour for the NXT 2.0 to finish on the car (after removing the dust/haze) before beginning. I went over the whole car and put a second layer of the Carnauba and let it dry. The orbital buffer took the haze off again and all was done.

Impressions:

The NXT 2.0 by itself added a strong reflective characteristic to the paint. The color depth and tone was not changed at all from what I could see. Obviously the car was much smoother now than with the old wax layering from a month of two ago.

After adding the Carnauba Wax on top, the color seems to pop a lot more. The surface is ultra-smooth and I can pick up on the faint hint of blue when the light hits the silver paint just right. The waxes seem to compound very well with each other and I'm quite pleased with the results.

Pics will be up today! (Yes I know this thread is partially worthless without pics)

(PS) - Double coating the whole car with the appropriate drying intervals for each coat takes a while, get your game hat on and bring some water.
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I do the same process but with different product. I typically apply a third synthectic coat over the top of the wax coat. Definetly looks great over black as well
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I do the same thing, but with Meguiar's Ultimate Quik Wax and then Meguiar's Gold Class Plus Carnauba paste wax on top. Seems like this method of synthetic and carnauba wax layering works well for others too!
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Not sure that works as you expect. Both NXT and Gold Class have mild cleaning properties. Given that and the fact that you didn't let the NXT sit for the recommended 24 hours it's likely most of it was removed when you applied the Gold class. I also use NXT as a base coat -- it is technically a sealant not a wax. But I top it with Meguiar's Yellow #26. 26 has no cleaners or polishing agents so it is less likely to take off previous coats.

You really can't layer waxes with polishing agents or cleaners in them. In fact, even with non cleaning/polishing waxes not all of them are capable of being layered over each other. It has a lot to do with whether the solvents to soften the wax (and all waxes have some solvents in them) in one will dissolve the base layer when applied.
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So, after reading a bit about the composition of two of Meguiars waxes, NXT 2.0 and the new Gold Class Plus Carnauba Wax, I figured I would do an experiment.

The NXT 2.0, per Meguiars, is 100% synthetic polymers and is their best protecting and longest lasting wax. I started by applying the liquid wax by hand to the car and removing with an orbital buffer with microfiber. From what I have seen and been told, the NXT 2.0 is a wax but also functions very well as a sealant. I figured this would protect the paint well as a base coat.

To add some complexity to the shine and maybe an interesting tinge, I went to the Gold Plus Carnauba wax on top of the applied NXT 2.0. I did wait about an hour for the NXT 2.0 to finish on the car (after removing the dust/haze) before beginning. I went over the whole car and put a second layer of the Carnauba and let it dry. The orbital buffer took the haze off again and all was done.

Impressions:

The NXT 2.0 by itself added a strong reflective characteristic to the paint. The color depth and tone was not changed at all from what I could see. Obviously the car was much smoother now than with the old wax layering from a month of two ago.

After adding the Carnauba Wax on top, the color seems to pop a lot more. The surface is ultra-smooth and I can pick up on the faint hint of blue when the light hits the silver paint just right. The waxes seem to compound very well with each other and I'm quite pleased with the results.

Pics will be up today! (Yes I know this thread is partially worthless without pics)

(PS) - Double coating the whole car with the appropriate drying intervals for each coat takes a while, get your game hat on and bring some water.
This is an interesting post -- I have been using the NXT 2.0 on my Z since new. I previously used the gold class product by itself. This weekend might be a good time to try to duplicate your test on mine.

I do have one concern. My understanding is that, while it may be OK to put the carnuba on top of the synthetic (NXT), it does not work so well when you try to put synthetic on top of carnuba. So I wonder how it will go when it is time for a new coat of wax(es). Must we strip what's there first?
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I agree that you probably should not use the synthetic on top of Carnauba. What I would do is get a nice full coat of synthetic on and then stick to the Carnauba for re-waxing. In theory the Carnauba would be the "sacrificial" layer to the elements with the sealant-type synthetic on the base.

While they do have mild cleaning properties, I can guarantee you that the Carnauba did not take the synthetic off. The finish is SOOO much smoother with them layered than it ever was with multiple coats of a single type of wax. To each his own but I am sticking to it.

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That's fine if you are happy with it. The only real value of a wax comes from the user's perception of it. Enjoy! I used to use the same procedure until I went with Meg's #26.

By the way ... smoother does really prove your layering was effective because it could be you just cleaned your paint twice and the second application took further contaminants off. The layering debate is huge and typically turn into flame wars so I'm not going to get into it here, but there is a lot of information both on the Meguiar's site and autopia.org.

Here's a link on the Meguiar's FAQ that gives some further info on layering

meguiars.com: FAQ - Can Meguiar's waxes be "Layered"?
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Whether it works or not, the results speak for themselves. The weird angles are from me trying to catch the best reflections.
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So fresh and so clean!
I like to layer nxt 2.0 with p100/p21s on top. the nxt gives a more digital shine and the p100 ands that warmth!

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