lazy-ish sprited early am drive down a country road is my 370Z.

This thread confuses me.

So, if you scrape the deposits off the rotors, and proceed to smoke the stuff, the BRZ turns into a Vette? :stirthepot: :inoutroflpuke:





Tapatalk2 ...

From what I can tell, much. The 370z is floppy and fat compared to my vette. The brz won't be a rocket, even with the STI version, but it should feel more telepathic. The 370z is dog slow to me, and it doesn't matter. Speed in a straight line has meant less and less over time to me. Telepathic driving input and feel and reliability have become more meaningful.

In short, the 370z never felt good. The interior was just nice for the market segment, but its performance in the corners has always.left me feeling meh. The brakes are the last straw in a long list of..."is this a rwd altima?" Thoughts I have been feeling for the last year. The smushy steering.g responses (I feel like I'm on a bike, the way it rolls when you give any Sharp inputs) and. The horribly noisy power steering when pushed in corners or quick transitions are just sad.

I guess it might be honest to say that I never liked this compromise car. The brakes are just what have finally made me throw up in my mouth enough to act. I'll wait and see if the brz STI is all I hope it is, but regardless, I'm dumping my 370 before 3/36 is done. It's just not a keeper.

It's obvious you don't love this car and that's just fine. You should just get rid of it if you have the means to do so. I've been catching your posts here and there since you got the car and I've thought this from the beginning. If you're a car guy (which I'm guessing you are) then find something you really love, be it old or new, and enjoy it. Good luck man.

That sums it up. I was going to keep this car long term, as while I dont love it, I also don't hate it.
I kindof act toward it how I feel at the moment. It's "meh". However, its not going to quietly get me from a to b without drama. No, it forces me to deal with problems all the damn time. It's like a girlfriend that rarely puts out and always.bitches but who has already moved in with you. I'll keep her until about 30-34k miles and then dump her without a second thought. If the brz STI is out, ill look hard at it. If the new mustang gt is out, and several hundred pounds lighter and more refined, ill look at that, but the Nissan is not a viable long term solution to my wants.

You should have just held on to the Corvette. The Z is fat and floppy in comparison. You're not open to modding so that feeling will never change. Live and learn I guess.

You're 100% correct. I could have totally lived with the numb feel and horrible weight-shift of the 370Z if it had done what I wanted it to, though...provide nice, reliable transportation.

But it can't even do that. It does NOTHING well. Except look good parked, but I don't really care what others think about what I drive, as is obvious by my trades (WS.6 to a G20 to a Z06 to a 370Z, in that order).

Strongly thinking about the BRZ STI when the '15 model drops (rumors of turbo for the '15 model when the contract stating that they won't add FI expires, if not, still, NA tweaks matter a LOT on a 2700# car). If they really do tart it up some, that car will be a market-segment dominator.

Now that I am looking to build a house in 2-3 years, though, and am going to be taking a $40K/year pay-cut, I am very car-note conscious, lol! I'd prefer to stay in the $35K financed range or lower, if possible. If the '15 GT comes out and is total sex though, I'd stretch that, but I think the BRZ, if they do an STI model, will give me what I'm looking for.

Well I hope one day you find what you are looking for. :)

That's easy.
http://www.dieselstation.com/wallpap...escreen-35.jpg

I just don't have the **** to afford it :(

If you buy a Subaru, go in knowing that it will rattle. A lot. It's built well, but for some reason they cannot get a quiet interior to save their lives.

A friend of my drove a used FR-S today. 14K miles on it. He said no rattles. Could the BRZ be different? Anyway, my 370Z developed rattles early on, too. By 5K miles it sounded chintzy going over any bumps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUhLXvxlQR4

^That guy says EXACTLY what I've been trying to say about the 370Z. I can't get the steering wheel close enough to me without me crowding the pedals was a HUGE! complaint I've long had about the car. YOU NEED A TELESCOPING WHEEL if you're actually going to drive, vs. lounging around like a thug in the car.

Aside from that, yes, at the limits, the 370Z really does fall apart. It's a fun car for someone who will point it in a safe direction and pull the trigger. I'm sure I could change that if I modified it, but I didn't buy a new car to rip its guts out and replace them. Stock, it wallows unsurely when you put it hard into corners, and it bounces relentlessly when you take it over bumps. The video I linked above does a GREAT! job of mirroring my experiences to date with it, and illustrates them very well visually.

The 370Z is a numbers car. It did well on the slalom. Well on the skidpad. Well at the drag strip.

It's not a driver's car. It does very poorly at settling into sweepers. At handling irregular pavement that is a reality off-track. At actually putting the driver IN the car (I cannot get comfortable in it with regard to steering, everything else is fine). Fore/aft weight transitions are horrendous.

We disagree entirely on the car, so I'll stick to your actual issue. Have you had a chance to get under the car and check everything out yet? I still think something's tweaked in the front end that's causing issues under braking.

I have not, nor do I even care anymore. I'll heckle the dealership to limp the car by in good order until it's time to trade it in. NO passion for this thing anymore. Junk. I'm emotionally done with it and just don't care. Also, I doubt anything is tweaked. It did this at 10K miles, and the car was hit (panel damage) at 17K miles. The bodyshop had the whole front end (bodywork) off, and looked specifically for tweaked stuff. Found none. Nissan has aligned it twice. Both times good to go. Nissan has looked at the front end numerous times, keeping the car for several days total, trying to figure out WTF!? So I do not feel that I am going to accomplish anything other than getting dirty by crawling under it.

Have you driven a corvette? Everyone I know who has driven a BRZ or FR-S says it's like a lighter corvette regarding how it feels. That also means it's MUCH more precise, as it's hard to hide the 275's up front on a 'vette. I really miss that light, tossable, effortless weight transfer of my Z06, but I don't want the performance I will never use, but still have to pay for. A BRZ STI would totally be fully tappable on some occasions, and have a nice feel to it. I'm tired of this car in the fact that it's under warranty and has racked up thousands of dollars in repair already (shop time is $135 at my local dealer, per hour. They've kept it all day before). You think I'm going to own this POS after the 3/36? HAH! I'm going to trade it at around the 32-34K mile mark. Hopefully on a BRZ STI by then, but I'm still of course open.

Anyway, they make more than 1 brand of car for a reason :)