SPL front camber coming soon?

Dwnshift · 08-01-2013, 10:33 PM

It's the man hours,material and extensive machining that goes into them. Anyone that has seem them up close .. can appreciate the detail work... They are extremely light weight .. And extremely durable.
The parts that we use are spec'd to very precise tolerances.
Initially we did look at putting in lesser quality parts... Different spehericals, less machine work..but felt in the end.. that isn't what we are about. And truthfully they wouldn't last in the environment that we use them in.
They are the exact arms we race with on the RC.
Put it this way... If they were that easy and cheap to make... There would be plenty of companies making them.

Chuck33079 · 08-01-2013, 10:35 PM

Exactly. Quality costs money. If your margin or production timeline doesn't allow a group buy, such is life. It just seemed there's a lot of pent up demand for the SPL stuff, and you could beat them to the punch.

SPOHN · 08-01-2013, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dwnshift

It's the man hours,material and extensive machining that goes into them. Anyone that has seem them up close .. can appreciate the detail work... They are extremely light weight .. And extremely durable.
The parts that we use are spec'd to very precise tolerances.
Initially we did look at putting in lesser quality parts... Different spehericals, less machine work..but felt in the end.. that isn't what we are about. And truthfully they wouldn't last in the environment that we use them in.
They are the exact arms we race with on the RC.
Put it this way... If they were that easy and cheap to make... There would be plenty of companies making them.

Lesser quality as in material used is not a bad thing when compared to your actual material you guys are using. If might not be as strong but I'm sure there are materials cheaper and will hold up to the abuse we basic track guys do. If your arms are a 10 and SPL is a 5, make a arm that ranks at a 8. We all can't have a GTR but a 370z is a super great substitute. Same principle.

Spl has a good arm in itself. The bushing and the actual adjustment is sloppy in design. But it works. So my point and what I wonder if you guys did make a arm in the same design with less cost material but still strong (might be heavier),different sphericals, and the machine work could maybe stay the same I think you guys could easily have a great product for half the cost or even seventy five percent.

synolimit · 08-01-2013, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN

Lesser quality as in material used is not a bad thing when compared to your actual material you guys are using. If might not be as strong but I'm sure there are materials cheaper and will hold up to the abuse we basic track guys do. If your arms are a 10 and SPL is a 5, make a arm that ranks at a 8. We all can't have a GTR but a 370z is a super great substitute. Same principle.

Spl has a good arm in itself. The bushing and the actual adjustment is sloppy in design. But it works. So my point and what I wonder if you guys did make a arm in the same design with less cost material but still strong (might be heavier),different sphericals, and the machine work could maybe stay the same I think you guys could easily have a great product for half the cost or even seventy five percent.

You meant SPC?

For cost I just say reenforce the SPC arm with tying down the nut and maybe finding a better bushing.

SPOHN · 08-02-2013, 06:20 AM

I meant SPC. There the only one with arms to compare. I was trying to apply/ compare the main piece of the arms themselves. The best thing to do in which I feel is a 95% fix is what my buddy did in the link below. Which it seems I'll end up doing. I just wanted to have SPL everything. Now if I can get some solid bushings to insert into the SPC arms I'd be good.

"SPC camber arm fix"

synolimit · 08-02-2013, 12:09 PM

That's a lot of work people can't do sometimes. I say 150lbs torque spec and drill two holes for 2 bolts next to the main nut. Drill pilot holes in the main nut and new bolt heads and safety wire it down. Then bushings.

corner3garage · 08-02-2013, 02:35 PM

We have a couple SPL front arms on pre order!

SPOHN · 08-02-2013, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by corner3garage

We have a couple SPL front arms on pre order!

You have a date though? If you did it you'd be the first vendor in history of the forum to.

Sh0velMan · 08-02-2013, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN

You have a date though? If you did it you'd be the first vendor in history of the forum to.

Dwnshift · 08-02-2013, 09:50 PM

Not really interested in building 8s.
Build 8s and the one time they fail... It's a complete fail.
This is suspension...not an exhaust system.
Tracking at high rate of speed... Or going through an intersection..
A fail... Isn't worth it.
BiG Picture

cv129 · 08-02-2013, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwnshift

Not really interested in building 8s.
Build 8s and the one time they fail... It's a complete fail.
This is suspension...not an exhaust system.
Tracking at high rate of speed... Or going through an intersection..
A fail... Isn't worth it.
BiG Picture

While I agree with Sphon that your arms are overkill for most of us, and it will be a great pleasure for us to have you guys produce lesser and cheaper version, I also agree that you guys are not in the business to build 8/10 products.

Perceived quality and reputation of a brand is very hard to maintain and very easily lost. You guys are professional race team, rightfully so the parts you guys make should reflect circuit grade.

We will just have to wait for SPL, patiently....patiently....patiently....

It's just "2 more months" guys lol

synolimit · 08-02-2013, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwnshift

Not really interested in building 8s.
Build 8s and the one time they fail... It's a complete fail.
This is suspension...not an exhaust system.
Tracking at high rate of speed... Or going through an intersection..
A fail... Isn't worth it.
BiG Picture

Well apparently it doesn't matter if your stuffs made out of diamondcarbfibertitaniumalloymegasteel. If your factory sheet breaks, who cares! Haha

jujubii · 08-03-2013, 03:09 AM

^ what in the hell happened!?

p.s. what coils are you running?

chrischhorn · 08-03-2013, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by jujubii

^ what in the hell happened!?

p.s. what coils are you running?

Thats my car.....My driver front hub assembly snapped on me last night. How? Good question. I was going 25 mph, made a right hand turn and the car decided to go straight into some high brush. Almost a clean break all the way across. Possibly a defect but how can I prove that?

I'm running PowerTrix R/T coilovers. I really like them.

Dwnshift · 08-03-2013, 05:48 AM

Chrischchorn
Sorry ... that does suck.
Glad you (and anyone else)are okay.
This is exactly the situation that I am referring to.
One instance like this... And it's not good at all.... for anyone.
While suspension parts are not as "fun"
as bolt on parts that produce HP gains... there is far more at stake.

08-01-2013, 10:33 PM	#31 (permalink)
Dwnshift Track Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Cincy Posts: 717 Drives: NISMO 370Z RC Rep Power: 14	It's the man hours,material and extensive machining that goes into them. Anyone that has seem them up close .. can appreciate the detail work... They are extremely light weight .. And extremely durable. The parts that we use are spec'd to very precise tolerances. Initially we did look at putting in lesser quality parts... Different spehericals, less machine work..but felt in the end.. that isn't what we are about. And truthfully they wouldn't last in the environment that we use them in. They are the exact arms we race with on the RC. Put it this way... If they were that easy and cheap to make... There would be plenty of companies making them. sig11 and gomer_110 like this.

08-01-2013, 10:35 PM	#32 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	Exactly. Quality costs money. If your margin or production timeline doesn't allow a group buy, such is life. It just seemed there's a lot of pent up demand for the SPL stuff, and you could beat them to the punch. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

08-02-2013, 06:20 AM	#35 (permalink)
SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 45 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 221	I meant SPC. There the only one with arms to compare. I was trying to apply/ compare the main piece of the arms themselves. The best thing to do in which I feel is a 95% fix is what my buddy did in the link below. Which it seems I'll end up doing. I just wanted to have SPL everything. Now if I can get some solid bushings to insert into the SPC arms I'd be good. "SPC camber arm fix" __________________

08-02-2013, 12:09 PM	#36 (permalink)
synolimit A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2013 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 5,051 Drives: 2013 Silver 370z Rep Power: 3388	That's a lot of work people can't do sometimes. I say 150lbs torque spec and drill two holes for 2 bolts next to the main nut. Drill pilot holes in the main nut and new bolt heads and safety wire it down. Then bushings. __________________ 13 370z- Last edited by synolimit; 08-02-2013 at 12:13 PM.

08-02-2013, 02:35 PM	#37 (permalink)
corner3garage The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Laguna Hills, CA Posts: 9,879 Drives: 240sx, 350z, 370z Rep Power: 34	We have a couple SPL front arms on pre order! __________________ Corner3motorsports.com

08-02-2013, 09:50 PM	#40 (permalink)
Dwnshift Track Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Cincy Posts: 717 Drives: NISMO 370Z RC Rep Power: 14	Not really interested in building 8s. Build 8s and the one time they fail... It's a complete fail. This is suspension...not an exhaust system. Tracking at high rate of speed... Or going through an intersection.. A fail... Isn't worth it. BiG Picture

08-03-2013, 03:09 AM	#43 (permalink)
jujubii Base Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: LA Posts: 76 Drives: g37 Rep Power: 13	^ what in the hell happened!? p.s. what coils are you running?

08-03-2013, 05:48 AM	#45 (permalink)
Dwnshift Track Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Cincy Posts: 717 Drives: NISMO 370Z RC Rep Power: 14	Chrischchorn Sorry ... that does suck. Glad you (and anyone else)are okay. This is exactly the situation that I am referring to. One instance like this... And it's not good at all.... for anyone. While suspension parts are not as "fun" as bolt on parts that produce HP gains... there is far more at stake. GaleForce and chrischhorn like this.

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