Performance dampener w/ swift springs

cossie1600 · 07-26-2011, 04:24 PM

you forgot the part about wearing the hub and studs out

kenchan · 07-26-2011, 04:48 PM

cossie1600 · 07-26-2011, 05:42 PM

Spacers can wear out hubs too, same with heavy rims/tires.

DJ-of-E · 07-26-2011, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by corner3garage

For many of our customers that run a "performance spring" we recommend performance dampers. These can range from Tokico blue's to adjustable versions like KYB AGX and KONI Yellow dampers. For customers that are more street driven I would recommend non-adjustable as they are cheaper and you dont really need the adjustment for the street, but as for customers that auto-x(some classes only allow springs and shocks) and track, we recommend adjustable.

Yeah, I want to do some "light" auto-x on the car as well, so I want to do my homework on the suspension to gain a little more cornering performance, but still retain enough of the comfort.

Otherwise, I would probably rather get the Tanabe Sustec Pro and have it installed there.

I'm trying to think of the pros and cons with the Swift Springs vs Tanabe Sustec being sold by Corner3 and have it installed there. I would like to install it on my own, but I'm hitting a point of my life where I don't have the time or energy to work on 2 cars at the same time. Also, after installation of either one, would camber kits be needed?

kenchan · 07-26-2011, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

Spacers can wear out hubs too, same with heavy rims/tires.

You mean the wheel bearings? Yah, if you like hellaflushthetoilet.

cossie1600 · 07-26-2011, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

You mean the wheel bearings? Yah, if you like hellaflushthetoilet.

Technically yes as most hub cracking are caused by wheel bearing failures. I don't think you can change the hub without the bearing on the Z (I just saw a guy changing it on a 350 at the track Sunday).

Daishi9000 · 07-27-2011, 01:33 PM

are the stock shocks and springs the same on a sport and non sport?

Red__Zed · 07-27-2011, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Daishi9000

are the stock shocks and springs the same on a sport and non sport?

Yes.

cossie1600 · 07-27-2011, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ-of-E

Yeah, I want to do some "light" auto-x on the car as well, so I want to do my homework on the suspension to gain a little more cornering performance, but still retain enough of the comfort.

Otherwise, I would probably rather get the Tanabe Sustec Pro and have it installed there.

I'm trying to think of the pros and cons with the Swift Springs vs Tanabe Sustec being sold by Corner3 and have it installed there. I would like to install it on my own, but I'm hitting a point of my life where I don't have the time or energy to work on 2 cars at the same time. Also, after installation of either one, would camber kits be needed?

save your money and get tires.. springs will knock you into a class that you wont be able to win anyway

Daishi9000 · 07-27-2011, 02:50 PM

Ok, thanks!

kenchan · 07-27-2011, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

save your money and get tires..

if you increase spring rate and/or damp rate, or even just the swaybars you put more burden on the tires. if you want to do handling mods correctly, do the tires first.

DJ-of-E · 07-27-2011, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

if you increase spring rate and/or damp rate, or even just the swaybars you put more burden on the tires. if you want to do handling mods correctly, do the tires first.

I'm still on stock sport rims. What tires should I get to replace with? Wouldn't better tires be around racing compound? Isn't that asking for bumping up a class anyways, wouldn't it?

cossie1600 · 07-28-2011, 12:32 AM

It depends on the local club. Our club doesn't allow R comps in stock class, but SCCA and most others will. The street/race tires from Bridgestone/Kumho/Nitto/Hankook/Yokomama are about 1.5-3 sec slower than A6s, but it will be way better than your stock or the stupid V12s or whatever. It's an expensive way to go, but the better tires are better than any stupid spring setup you are going to put in your car. I believe Tirerack tested a full spring kit, the car gained .4 sec on their 30 sec course or something, which is nothing compared to a set of decent tires.

kenchan · 07-28-2011, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ-of-E

I'm still on stock sport rims. What tires should I get to replace with? Wouldn't better tires be around racing compound? Isn't that asking for bumping up a class anyways, wouldn't it?

if you want to keep it Bridgestone people use RE11, i'd get another set of S04 pole positions for my car. they stick considerably better than the RE050A's and super sticky in the rain.

also note that there is a difference between RE050A and RE050A Polepositions. (RE050A PP's were discontinued replaced by S04 Polepositions).

also try the Pilot SuperSports.

the Continental DW's are pretty good too and sticks better than the stock RE050A's but it's a softer ride... not sure if you want that or not. for me it gives me a more touring car feel so it's not bad. i won't be buying another set though.

christian370z · 07-28-2011, 09:55 PM

Kenchan, how is the sidewall stiffness on the Polepositions? Same as the RE050s?

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cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 29	Spacers can wear out hubs too, same with heavy rims/tires.

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cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 29	It depends on the local club. Our club doesn't allow R comps in stock class, but SCCA and most others will. The street/race tires from Bridgestone/Kumho/Nitto/Hankook/Yokomama are about 1.5-3 sec slower than A6s, but it will be way better than your stock or the stupid V12s or whatever. It's an expensive way to go, but the better tires are better than any stupid spring setup you are going to put in your car. I believe Tirerack tested a full spring kit, the car gained .4 sec on their 30 sec course or something, which is nothing compared to a set of decent tires.