Mine makes a creaking noise too. Lou@amplified said it's chassis flex?

Is it loud? I haven't heard this, but my music is usually pretty loud...

Hmmm no creaking at all here. Did you install the rubber spacer on in the top middle of the front springs?

JJ nismo, who did your install?

Now you're making wonder if they left this off. what color is the spacer and does it go in the middle and top of the spring?

yeah i wanna know too since the boxes we got from swift didn't come with any spacers.

^ I'm starting to hear the noise from both front wheel area now, not just passenger side.

i'll call swift tomorrow and address the issue. We already double checked your front suspension saturday and everything was installed correctly.

anyone else with the creeking sound please let me know so i can talk to swift about it. As you guys know that the springs rates on the swift spec r are pretty stiff at 10kg and 10.5kg and they usually can cause some "creeking"

Lou did my install and is the man when it comes to customer service. I spoke with him today and am going to stop by to get a better look at it.

My front springs make a noticeable creaking sound whenever I go over any bumps at slow speed. The noise has gotten somewhat worse and I tried to take a look at it tonight. From what I can tell, it sounds like the spring is shifting or rubbing against itself during the compression and release. This would make sense if Swift left out the spacers that TJ is talking about. Any pics TJ?

I am wondering if the sway bar bushings may have loosened up as a result of the change in stiffness or if the springs shifted and are not sitting properly. It could just be that the bushings need to be lubricated or the isolator is off?

My Nismo stock springs were pretty stiff to begin with so I am hoping that is not the issue.

What are the inserts that were supposed to come with the springs? My flashlight died tonight lol and I can't get my car in a good position to take a look.

TJ, can you take a pic when you get a chance?

I was unable to tell tonight in the dark, but will check tomorrow.

I've only had my springs (and sways) on for about a week, but I haven't noticed any noise.

Did your springs come with spacers for the front? Any pics?

I think they are called spring silencers. It is a rubber tubing that goes in the middle coil and top coil of the front springs.

Like this?
PDM Racing - Suspension

scroll down until you see the below text. It would make sense if this was the issue becuase the noise I am hearing definitely sounds like coil contact.


Silence Noisy Coils Use Whiteline's new spiral coil wrap to silence noisy progressive coil springs. Most new cars use coil spring insulators to reduce NVH resulting from coil bind or contact between "dead" or closed coils. Many aftermarket springs require a progressive design using "dead" coils to meet captive height design requirements. These can become noisy under certain loads making an add-on insulator very useful.

The spiral design lets you insulate the springs WHILE the coils are in the vehicle saving time and money. Each pack contains 1.5 metres of heavy duty plastic spiral wrap which is enough to do 2 springs.

Check out the image below...... These are the Swift Spec R. You can definitely see the silencers on them. I did some looking around, and spacers seem to be used to adjust the ride height so I don't think that would apply.

I also took a look at my front springs and I do not think the isolator is the issue.

Re: spacers - I'm sorry, but I don't know. I picked up the box on the way to the installers and just give it to them.
Re: pics - they're on the previous page.

You can use plastic wire loom. Will have the same results.

I took some pictures of my springs this morning. The car was on the ground and the springs were not unloaded. It appears that the isolators are in place. I also notice what may be the silencer in the upper middle portion of the springs.

Take a look and let me know what you think! Do the springs look too compressed? What about the shocks?

Front Passenger's Side-- first two pics
Front Driver's Side-- second two pics

I can't see your pictures. :(

Fixed :)

Seems like negatives outweigh spring change for Nismo owners. These springs don't seem to be much of an improvement with noise issues. Think I will wait for high quality coil over

The noises are only over bumps at slow speed. The drop looks sexy as hell :/

Nismo > than all, amiright?

Just double checking with recent owners and those who are dealing with the creaking noise:
1) How is daily driving feel over stock (mine is a base trim).
2) Despite the noise, do you feel the performance is still good?

I still haven't installed my springs and decided to have Baker do all the work once my car gets shipped to their shop this summer.

I spoke to Swift about the noises and they sounded really confident that the OEM spring jacket was not on. I had no clue what they were talking about but they sent me a picture and apparently yours doesnt have it on. That will directly affect the squish noise. They assured me that it was tested on the Nismo and the springs will not cause any problems as long as installed correctly.
The reason why your vehicle is making noises is because the OEM spring jacket is not on the spring.

http://i957.photobucket.com/albums/a...Z/P1020429.jpg

Thank You!

I actually spoke with Lou@Amplified last night and he thought the same thing. I checked out my OEM springs after reading his email and the OEM spring jacket is still on each front spring.

Just to clarify, I need to take this spring jacket off each front OEM spring and install it on the top of each front Swift spring? The jacket sits towards the middle of the OEM spring and not the top so I just want to make sure.

Repped!

^will this require a realignment?

I think it really depends on your car; each one is different. But if you really want your tires to last, I would recommend getting a rear camber kit...

If you have the springs installed and its not making any noises without the rubber piece then your fine. But because each and every car is slightly different its just what Swift prefers when installing the springs. I dont have it on my car either. But because my car is not making any noises Im just not going to go through the hassle. Also they told me that the piece has to be installed exactly the way it is pictured. One coil down from where the spring starts the wind, and loop it up. In other words when the spring is installed the spring should be sitting on the plastic spring condom. LOL.

Sweet! That's good to know. So this is one situation where reusing old "condoms" is a good thing ;)

Hahahaha....

I called Swift yesterday and they gave me the same info as CFZ. They said that if any sort of noises do appear, to just go back and add the OEM rubber silencers. After calling them, I am actually even more impressed with their product and the company as a whole.

I called at 4:55 PM on a Friday night and they still answered all the questions I had and went into a lot of detail about their development process. They do extensive testing on the springs (even on the Nismo) and designed them to work perfectly with the 370. A lot of springs out their push the OEM shocks past their threshold, but the Swifts are designed to give just enough drop and performance increase without pushing the stock shocks past their stroke limit. They said that they have not had any issues with noises yet and that it could just be a result of the stock isolator on my car. Every car comes different from the factory, and even a couple millimeters in difference can cause the rubber to take longer to settle in, etc.

I am going to have the OEM rubber put on today and will let you guys know what happens. Swift said that if anything else appears to call them and they will take care of it.

Great product and a great company.

^Wow, that is definitely above and beyond. Swifts get better and better everyday!

Still waiting on mine!!!

My Z on swifts..

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5136/...c706eab4_b.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5253/...733c13a7_b.jpg

I realized that these pictures might not help people who might want to purchase springs, but they do make the Z look good! :D

VERY happy so far with the springs!

^ beautiful, the nismo wheels don't hurt at all either :D

Update:

I had the rubber silencers taken off of my OEM springs and put on the front Swift springs per Swift's instructions. So far, no more creaking :) I will keep everyone posted if the noises come back, but everything sounds nice and quiet right now.

Thanks to Amplified for the fix!

I was careful to do just that. Make sure the rubber sleeve was on just right. And I have zero noise issues.

:ughdance:

I also installed my OEM spring silencers too. I thought that was a given when doing spring swaps...

JJ-Nismo, how did it change the way the car rides? I'm thinking of putting them on my and hopping some of the harshnes eases.roades in my area aren't the best.being a little lower is always a plus to.

Spring manufacturers should include all necessary parts. You should not have to mix and match parts for an aftermarket piece IMO.

Also, which coil did your put your OEM rubber on? The Swifts come with a sleeve already placed in the upper middle of the front springs.




The rubber sleeves (silencers) will not affect the performance at all. They are simply to reduce noise and will prevent metal on metal contact. The material is very thin and will have no real effect when compressed.

Do you currently have the swifts and are looking for a softer ride or are you considering the Swifts to ease the harshness of the Nismo ride?