2009 370Z IPOD -> A2DP Bluetooth Unit

kenchan · 05-03-2014, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by radensb

Hi all,

Here's the deal, I I bought a 2009 370Z. It does NOT support bluetooth audio streaming, which is a bummer as I primarily use Pandora. Lets face it, the media playbak options on the 2009 are outdated. Compact flash card port...really??

Ok, so I wanted to stream bluetooth audio to the stereo. There is an AV AUX port in the arm rest compartment, as well as a 30 pin IPOD adapter.

I dont have an IPOD. Im team android all the way. So I got to thinking... How can I use this IPOD adapter?? Well, Im a DYI kind of guy, especially with electronics and programming, so his was right up my ally. I am developing an interface which would be connected to the cars IPOD adapter. This interface will make the car think there is an IPOD plugged in and play audio. The interface will communicate with the car via the 30 pin adapter and with an onboard bluetooth module that supports A2DP and AVRCP 1.3 connected to a bluetooth device playing the media.

I plan to support A2DP audio streaming, media control (play,pause,next,previous) from the stereo or steering wheel controls and metadata for AVRCP 1.3 enabled bluetooth devices(artist, track, album, elapsed time, duration).

The goal is to be able to get in my car, have my phone connect, and play Pandora (or any media app) with media control and metadata display with the car in IPOD mode. The experience would be similar to having an IPOD connected, but without the limitation of only an IPOD being used.

I have looked into some of the mainstream bluetooth/IPOD adapters, but the IPOD adapter in the 370Z actively communicates with the IPOD, and if the communication timesout, the car assumes the device has been removed and disabled the IPOD menus leaving you with the "IPOD Not Connected" message. Since none of the existing adapters can respond to Apple Accessory Protocol commands, they will never work.

Would there be any interest from others here?? Obviously, this will only work or be needed with 09 370Z's with the 30 pin IPOD adapter, but being that the system is based on Apple's Accessory Protocol, it should work with any IPOD adapter interface *theoretically of course* that needs active communication.

just get a pioneer head unit. it runs pandora native, and if you have android, you wont even need to plug in anything. just keep your phone in your pocket, like/dislike tracks, search your channels, skip tracks, etc. i have avh 4500bt on my Z and G, and 2500bt on my dd. all works great.

radensb · 05-05-2014, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

just get a pioneer head unit.

How does one install a new head unit in the touring model with Nav and upgraded Bose?

Mitco39 · 05-05-2014, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by radensb

How does one install a new head unit in the touring model with Nav and upgraded Bose?

You missed his signature... lol

kenchan · 05-05-2014, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitco39

You missed his signature... lol

mitco that was a seriarse post.

is the nav part of the bose stereo? if not, just swap out the bose and get a real HU in there. you'll need a minimum 4v preamp-out if you want to use the bose amp.

radensb · 05-05-2014, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

mitco that was a seriarse post.

is the nav part of the bose stereo? if not, just swap out the bose and get a real HU in there. you'll need a minimum 4v preamp-out if you want to use the bose amp.

My understanding is that everything from AC to headlight control is done in the NAV unit.

This makes it VERY difficult to upgrade the system. I'd love to upgrade the stock system to an aftermarket system, but it looks like cars with the NAV have too much functionality integrated into the NAV unit.

kenchan · 05-06-2014, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by radensb

My understanding is that everything from AC to headlight control is done in the NAV unit.

This makes it VERY difficult to upgrade the system. I'd love to upgrade the stock system to an aftermarket system, but it looks like cars with the NAV have too much functionality integrated into the NAV unit.

oh is that right? that sucks mang...

in that case, you'll have to use the BT receiver and aux-in or something like that. problem with most aftermarket BT receivers is that they dont sound very good.... i bought one for my boom box in the garage a while back, returned it immediately after playing a few seconds of my tracks.

radensb · 05-06-2014, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

oh is that right? that sucks mang...

in that case, you'll have to use the BT receiver and aux-in or something like that. problem with most aftermarket BT receivers is that they dont sound very good.... i bought one for my boom box in the garage a while back, returned it immediately after playing a few seconds of my tracks.

Well, the iPod interface connector has an audio input designed for the audio that would play out of the iPod 30 pin connector. My prototype gets power, communicates digitally with the car, and sends audio from the Bluetooth interface all through the 30 pin connector making it independent of any other interface.

Buy yeah, the Bose is pretty limited in what can be upgraded...

Smashley · 06-08-2014, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radensb

Well, the iPod interface connector has an audio input designed for the audio that would play out of the iPod 30 pin connector. My prototype gets power, communicates digitally with the car, and sends audio from the Bluetooth interface all through the 30 pin connector making it independent of any other interface.

Buy yeah, the Bose is pretty limited in what can be upgraded...

Keep us updated pls

tiger123 · 06-09-2014, 10:30 AM

I too am very interested.

Keep us updated with your progress.

BTW, how are things going?

Dras · 05-24-2017, 10:13 PM

I am an iPhone user and have a 2009 370Z touring with factiry nav/bose. What is my best bet for bluetooth music streaming? I have the 30 pin cable from nissan and I saw a bunch of bluetooth adapters on Amazon but none of them say they are compatible with my car. I do not care about the ipod controls on the console, OK with controlling the music prom the phone display. Can anyone help with specific info on what I need to get to make it work? Thanks

Fountainhead · 05-26-2017, 08:57 AM

Hi Dras,

This is what I've used for the past 5 years.
https://www.amazon.com/Bovee-Wireles...words=tune2air

It was once called Viseeo Tune2Air but I guess they changed the name. Mine is called WMA1000 I think.
I use the iPod cable in my 2009 Touring to connect to it, but found that the problem is the Z radio first detects the iPod device then connects to it. Well synching the iPhone to the Viseeo device conflicts with the power up of the device from the radio and it randomly connects.
My solution is to get a 12V to 5V iPod charge adapter and plug it in between the Viseeo device and the car 30 pin. Then, as soon as the Accy line goes high the BT adapter is powered on and then the iPhone can find it.
Works VERY well for me for 5 years and I can still BT to the radio and receive and send calls no issues.

PS: I removed the iPod cable connector from the console tray and just put it inside the console to make it seamless and unobtrusive, and to be able to still use the mini tray in the center console (armrest, shifter cover, etc.).
NOTE: You'll have to tap into the Accy line inside/under the console. You'll need to take out the console (shifter portion, NOT the radio portion). Then after you tap into the Acccy line, just tuck everything under the center console and close! I can get at mine thru the cup holder if I need to.

Also I can control the iPhone from the radio over BT as if it were hard connected to the radio cable.
Good Luck!

Dras · 06-07-2017, 12:17 AM

Thank you Fountainhead!!! Appreciated.
-Dras

acmethod · 08-24-2017, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fountainhead

Hi Dras,

This is what I've used for the past 5 years.
https://www.amazon.com/Bovee-Wireles...words=tune2air

It was once called Viseeo Tune2Air but I guess they changed the name. Mine is called WMA1000 I think.
I use the iPod cable in my 2009 Touring to connect to it, but found that the problem is the Z radio first detects the iPod device then connects to it. Well synching the iPhone to the Viseeo device conflicts with the power up of the device from the radio and it randomly connects.
My solution is to get a 12V to 5V iPod charge adapter and plug it in between the Viseeo device and the car 30 pin. Then, as soon as the Accy line goes high the BT adapter is powered on and then the iPhone can find it.
Works VERY well for me for 5 years and I can still BT to the radio and receive and send calls no issues.

PS: I removed the iPod cable connector from the console tray and just put it inside the console to make it seamless and unobtrusive, and to be able to still use the mini tray in the center console (armrest, shifter cover, etc.).
NOTE: You'll have to tap into the Accy line inside/under the console. You'll need to take out the console (shifter portion, NOT the radio portion). Then after you tap into the Acccy line, just tuck everything under the center console and close! I can get at mine thru the cup holder if I need to.

Also I can control the iPhone from the radio over BT as if it were hard connected to the radio cable.
Good Luck!

This is great info. Thanks for sharing. Which 12-5v adapter did you use? The one I have doesn't seem to be doing the trick. The wma1000 randomly connects. It doesn't seem to get powered consistently.

Thanks for any info.

Fountainhead · 08-25-2017, 09:32 PM

Hi ACMethod,
Any name brand one would do. You'll have to take it apart and wire it in unless you just stick it in the cig lighter socket and do it that way. Mine's under the center hump console. Just don't use one that's 5.00 from Walgreens or Ebay. Use something reliable and moderately priced. I don't remember what mine was from. I took apart a BT to Stereo receiver and used the 12 to 5 converter from that. Just wired in etc.
I used an inline micro USB female to 30 Pin adapter also, that's important and I forgot that in my first post. I don't remember that either.
I just searched for half an hour and couldn't find one. It's a 30 pin female Apple on one end and a 30 pin male apple on the other. It has a micro usb on the side to inject the 5V from the 12 to 5 adapter that powers the WMA on immediately when the car turns on so the WMA can be found by the stereo. Mine works flawlessly. I'm sorry I can't recommend where to get that type of connector now. It was years ago when I adapted mine this way. 30 pin to Lightning is all I can find now. if I dig something up I'll let you know.

http://dock.miuirussia.com/30-pin-dock-extender-cable/
Not the extender cable but notice the female to male 30 pin adapters, like those but with a micro usb female jack to inject the 5V to power the wma unit.

The Weapon · 08-28-2017, 12:53 PM

i just spoke to this company and they confirmed it's compatible.
Nissan Infiniti GROM VLine Infotainment System Upgrade Video Interface

This seems promising. Pretty much a standalone tablet that can stream via bluetooth, USB audio, and stream directly with dataplan or tethered phone.

06-09-2014, 10:30 AM	#24 (permalink)
tiger123 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Chicago Posts: 367 Drives: 09 AT Tour/Sport/Nav Rep Power: 13	I too am very interested. Keep us updated with your progress. BTW, how are things going? __________________ G2\|\|Berk CBE/HFC\|\|LED In-Out\|\|35% Tint\|\|V1\|\|GT-R Dome Lights\|\|JDM Rear Fog Light\|\|Z Speed Undershroud (SS)\|\|Red GT-R Start Button\|\|StopTech Rotors\|\|Project MU\|\|Z1 Oil Cooler\|\|EcuTek\|\|

05-26-2017, 08:57 AM	#26 (permalink)
Fountainhead Track Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: FL Posts: 834 Drives: 2019 Civic Type R Rep Power: 14	Hi Dras, This is what I've used for the past 5 years. https://www.amazon.com/Bovee-Wireles...words=tune2air It was once called Viseeo Tune2Air but I guess they changed the name. Mine is called WMA1000 I think. I use the iPod cable in my 2009 Touring to connect to it, but found that the problem is the Z radio first detects the iPod device then connects to it. Well synching the iPhone to the Viseeo device conflicts with the power up of the device from the radio and it randomly connects. My solution is to get a 12V to 5V iPod charge adapter and plug it in between the Viseeo device and the car 30 pin. Then, as soon as the Accy line goes high the BT adapter is powered on and then the iPhone can find it. Works VERY well for me for 5 years and I can still BT to the radio and receive and send calls no issues. PS: I removed the iPod cable connector from the console tray and just put it inside the console to make it seamless and unobtrusive, and to be able to still use the mini tray in the center console (armrest, shifter cover, etc.). NOTE: You'll have to tap into the Accy line inside/under the console. You'll need to take out the console (shifter portion, NOT the radio portion). Then after you tap into the Acccy line, just tuck everything under the center console and close! I can get at mine thru the cup holder if I need to. Also I can control the iPhone from the radio over BT as if it were hard connected to the radio cable. Good Luck! Dras likes this. Last edited by Fountainhead; 05-26-2017 at 03:29 PM.

08-25-2017, 09:32 PM	#29 (permalink)
Fountainhead Track Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: FL Posts: 834 Drives: 2019 Civic Type R Rep Power: 14	Hi ACMethod, Any name brand one would do. You'll have to take it apart and wire it in unless you just stick it in the cig lighter socket and do it that way. Mine's under the center hump console. Just don't use one that's 5.00 from Walgreens or Ebay. Use something reliable and moderately priced. I don't remember what mine was from. I took apart a BT to Stereo receiver and used the 12 to 5 converter from that. Just wired in etc. I used an inline micro USB female to 30 Pin adapter also, that's important and I forgot that in my first post. I don't remember that either. I just searched for half an hour and couldn't find one. It's a 30 pin female Apple on one end and a 30 pin male apple on the other. It has a micro usb on the side to inject the 5V from the 12 to 5 adapter that powers the WMA on immediately when the car turns on so the WMA can be found by the stereo. Mine works flawlessly. I'm sorry I can't recommend where to get that type of connector now. It was years ago when I adapted mine this way. 30 pin to Lightning is all I can find now. if I dig something up I'll let you know. http://dock.miuirussia.com/30-pin-dock-extender-cable/ Not the extender cable but notice the female to male 30 pin adapters, like those but with a micro usb female jack to inject the 5V to power the wma unit. Last edited by Fountainhead; 08-25-2017 at 10:36 PM. Reason: pic

08-28-2017, 12:53 PM	#30 (permalink)
The Weapon Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 286 Drives: 370Z Tour/Sport Blk Rep Power: 3371	i just spoke to this company and they confirmed it's compatible. Nissan Infiniti GROM VLine Infotainment System Upgrade Video Interface This seems promising. Pretty much a standalone tablet that can stream via bluetooth, USB audio, and stream directly with dataplan or tethered phone. Fountainhead likes this. __________________ Boosted Performance Comp Turbo - Tuner- CJM Fuel Return- Modified Berk CBE- ZSpeed Stage 4 Clutch - Southbend Flywheel - Tuned by Seb ~650whp - HKS Coilovers - SPL - Focal Audio 4 way Active - Audiocontrol DSP - Work CR 2P

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