Audio System from scratch.. Bye bye Bose..

Wicked CAS · 03-04-2010, 04:53 PM

Working on a solution for the 370Z Subwoofer addition.

cptspeed · 01-23-2010, 04:18 PM

Kind of hard to answer. The 4 ways will definately sound different than the components. Components really need an amp too.The components put the sound in front of you, versus below you for the 4 ways. Look if you want to go with the 4 ways and no amp, you can always change it later. Every panel in the car is easy to remove. Gotta fly. Leaving work. Good luck!

jikhead · 01-23-2010, 05:54 PM

I searched high and low on the internet to find the lowest prices on my equipment.
In my old WRX, I was running components off the Pioneer headunit without any complaints. It probably could've sounded better and cleaner with a separate amp. You could do your 4-ways and always add separate tweeters later with an inline high-pass filter. I personal think with the 4-ways being low, you won't hear the high's anymore like you do now. Just my thoughts. Just so you know, you can pick up some pretty expensive/quality component speakers pretty cheap if you search long enough. The Pioneers I bought have MSRP of $240...which I found for $118 w/shipping on Ebay.

ddvette9 · 01-23-2010, 11:41 PM

PTY, I was in the same place as you about 6 months ago. This is what I did, and I love it. I left the tweeters alone. I bought some 6.5 2-way door speakers by Pioneer. I bought the Kenwood DDX 514. I also bought the Boss Bass 1200 on Amazon for about 150 (its an all in one amp and sub).

The Kenwood powers the pioneer door speakers and the tweeters, and the sub is plugged into the head unit through RCA's. The whole system cost me about 700 including installation. Its low profile and very nice. It really does sound good, and you can turn everything up loud

If you are looking for simple solution with not a lot of wires and under 1000 for everything, look into going this route.

BTW, in case anyone bashes my suggestions, just know I used to have a JL Audio 10 W7 and their matching 500/1 mono amp. That is the best amp sub combo in the world and just those two things ran me 1000$. I have heard the best, and my setup may not be the "top of the line", but coming from experience it is very nice.

pty370z · 01-24-2010, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddvette9

PTY, I was in the same place as you about 6 months ago. This is what I did, and I love it. I left the tweeters alone. I bought some 6.5 2-way door speakers by Pioneer. I bought the Kenwood DDX 514. I also bought the Boss Bass 1200 on Amazon for about 150 (its an all in one amp and sub).

The Kenwood powers the pioneer door speakers and the tweeters, and the sub is plugged into the head unit through RCA's. The whole system cost me about 700 including installation. Its low profile and very nice. It really does sound good, and you can turn everything up loud

If you are looking for simple solution with not a lot of wires and under 1000 for everything, look into going this route.

BTW, in case anyone bashes my suggestions, just know I used to have a JL Audio 10 W7 and their matching 500/1 mono amp. That is the best amp sub combo in the world and just those two things ran me 1000$. I have heard the best, and my setup may not be the "top of the line", but coming from experience it is very nice.

Wow, nice suggestion.. I've already read various comments about the Boss Bass1200 and nothing but good words about it...

I didn't know it was an option to keep the stock tweeters.. How exactly are tweeters wired..?? Not familiar with this.. I've wired speakers to headunits before but always using 4-way or 5-way speakers directly hooked up to the HU but i've never used tweeters to filter out the high frequencies...

So, if I swap my door speakers, no need to swap the tweeters..?? Some lights on this appreciated...

cptspeed · 01-24-2010, 06:32 AM

If you are only changing the door speakers, I believe your wiring adapter should handle the connection to the stock tweets.

bigaudiofanat · 01-24-2010, 08:55 AM

I would not recommend using a cheap brand such as cheap in such a nice car. Also I would not recommend using the stock tweeters with any speaker. It would be 100 times better just to use the tweeters that are included in a component set.

pty370z · 01-24-2010, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

I would not recommend using a cheap brand such as cheap in such a nice car. Also I would not recommend using the stock tweeters with any speaker. It would be 100 times better just to use the tweeters that are included in a component set.

Are you talking about the Boss Bass1200..??

So you think I would be better off with the Kenwood I listed on the first post..??

bigaudiofanat · 01-24-2010, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pty370z

Are you talking about the Boss Bass1200..??

So you think I would be better off with the Kenwood I listed on the first post..??

Yes 100 times better. Anything like boss, pyle, pyramid any of the cheap stuff is not worth even a second look. Do not go cheap.

cptspeed · 01-24-2010, 09:58 AM

ddvette9 · 01-24-2010, 10:44 AM

didn't realize that my setup was for a non bose. I am not really sure how the wiring would work as far as adding a powered sub, getting new door speakers/ kepping the tweeters. Listen to these other guys as far as that is concerned. I was just putting in my .02 as far as helping someone out who wanted something simple and cheap for the time being.

One more thing about a powered sub, whether it is the boss, the infiniti basslink, the kenwood you chose, etc. 1. They are easy to remove 2. they take up a small amount of space 3. they are rugged so you can ususally cover them with groceries, suitcases, etc and they wont be harmed. 4. if you ssytem gets stolen, the thief can easily just take your sub and he doesnt have to rip anything out of your car, he can just grab and go. 5. most of those are only 200 bucks, so at worst your out 200.

Will i be switching to a zenclosure box and a nicer sub later, absolutely. But for right now, if you are like me, I promise you will not be dissapointed with a powered sub. For 150-200$, i get good bass from hip hop, rap, and techno and have a durable unit that is easy to move or take out. Also, these powered units wont draw a lot off yor battery.

cptspeed · 01-24-2010, 01:53 PM

Can't comment on Boss, never had it. I will say it all depends on your needs and your budget. I must say i've heard lesser priced systems sound good enough for the average person. If you ask someone who has a trained ear or someone who has owned an ideal setup, their opinion is going to be biased. Just as if you have always owned a ferrari, you might consider our cars subpar. In the end whatever brand you go with will definately sound better than the crap that is in it now. Nobody can argue that.

cptspeed · 01-24-2010, 01:59 PM

On another note. The system in my car was previously in my 350. The tweets are in a different location and I don't have rear speakers now. I also bought better subs. This system is the best sounding one I've ever owned. In the 350 it was very disappointing. There are many factors that make a system sound awesome. Just keep that in mind.

pty370z · 01-24-2010, 11:07 PM

Does anybody know how much watts RMS are the stock Bose subs..??

I mean, combined or each one..??

That could help on the decision making process.. hehe.. Thanks again!

bigaudiofanat · 01-24-2010, 11:37 PM

I have no idea can not be much considering the size of the amp. Keep in mind even aftermarket sub pushing 110 watts is going to sound better than those things.

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bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 855	I have no idea can not be much considering the size of the amp. Keep in mind even aftermarket sub pushing 110 watts is going to sound better than those things. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

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01-23-2010, 04:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
cptspeed Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: tampa Posts: 799 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 19	Kind of hard to answer. The 4 ways will definately sound different than the components. Components really need an amp too.The components put the sound in front of you, versus below you for the 4 ways. Look if you want to go with the 4 ways and no amp, you can always change it later. Every panel in the car is easy to remove. Gotta fly. Leaving work. Good luck!

01-23-2010, 05:54 PM	#3 (permalink)
jikhead Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 425 Drives: 09 370Z Blue 6spd Rep Power: 186	I searched high and low on the internet to find the lowest prices on my equipment. In my old WRX, I was running components off the Pioneer headunit without any complaints. It probably could've sounded better and cleaner with a separate amp. You could do your 4-ways and always add separate tweeters later with an inline high-pass filter. I personal think with the 4-ways being low, you won't hear the high's anymore like you do now. Just my thoughts. Just so you know, you can pick up some pretty expensive/quality component speakers pretty cheap if you search long enough. The Pioneers I bought have MSRP of $240...which I found for $118 w/shipping on Ebay.

01-23-2010, 11:41 PM	#4 (permalink)
ddvette9 Track Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 823 Drives: 2013 Scion FRS Rep Power: 19	PTY, I was in the same place as you about 6 months ago. This is what I did, and I love it. I left the tweeters alone. I bought some 6.5 2-way door speakers by Pioneer. I bought the Kenwood DDX 514. I also bought the Boss Bass 1200 on Amazon for about 150 (its an all in one amp and sub). The Kenwood powers the pioneer door speakers and the tweeters, and the sub is plugged into the head unit through RCA's. The whole system cost me about 700 including installation. Its low profile and very nice. It really does sound good, and you can turn everything up loud If you are looking for simple solution with not a lot of wires and under 1000 for everything, look into going this route. BTW, in case anyone bashes my suggestions, just know I used to have a JL Audio 10 W7 and their matching 500/1 mono amp. That is the best amp sub combo in the world and just those two things ran me 1000$. I have heard the best, and my setup may not be the "top of the line", but coming from experience it is very nice.

01-24-2010, 06:32 AM	#6 (permalink)
cptspeed Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: tampa Posts: 799 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 19	If you are only changing the door speakers, I believe your wiring adapter should handle the connection to the stock tweets.

01-24-2010, 09:58 AM	#10 (permalink)
cptspeed Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: tampa Posts: 799 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 19

01-24-2010, 10:44 AM	#11 (permalink)
ddvette9 Track Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 823 Drives: 2013 Scion FRS Rep Power: 19	didn't realize that my setup was for a non bose. I am not really sure how the wiring would work as far as adding a powered sub, getting new door speakers/ kepping the tweeters. Listen to these other guys as far as that is concerned. I was just putting in my .02 as far as helping someone out who wanted something simple and cheap for the time being. One more thing about a powered sub, whether it is the boss, the infiniti basslink, the kenwood you chose, etc. 1. They are easy to remove 2. they take up a small amount of space 3. they are rugged so you can ususally cover them with groceries, suitcases, etc and they wont be harmed. 4. if you ssytem gets stolen, the thief can easily just take your sub and he doesnt have to rip anything out of your car, he can just grab and go. 5. most of those are only 200 bucks, so at worst your out 200. Will i be switching to a zenclosure box and a nicer sub later, absolutely. But for right now, if you are like me, I promise you will not be dissapointed with a powered sub. For 150-200$, i get good bass from hip hop, rap, and techno and have a durable unit that is easy to move or take out. Also, these powered units wont draw a lot off yor battery.

01-24-2010, 01:53 PM	#12 (permalink)
cptspeed Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: tampa Posts: 799 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 19	Can't comment on Boss, never had it. I will say it all depends on your needs and your budget. I must say i've heard lesser priced systems sound good enough for the average person. If you ask someone who has a trained ear or someone who has owned an ideal setup, their opinion is going to be biased. Just as if you have always owned a ferrari, you might consider our cars subpar. In the end whatever brand you go with will definately sound better than the crap that is in it now. Nobody can argue that.

01-24-2010, 01:59 PM	#13 (permalink)
cptspeed Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: tampa Posts: 799 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 19	On another note. The system in my car was previously in my 350. The tweets are in a different location and I don't have rear speakers now. I also bought better subs. This system is the best sounding one I've ever owned. In the 350 it was very disappointing. There are many factors that make a system sound awesome. Just keep that in mind.

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