Audio System from scratch.. Bye bye Bose..

pty370z · 01-24-2010, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ddvette9

PTY, I was in the same place as you about 6 months ago. This is what I did, and I love it. I left the tweeters alone. I bought some 6.5 2-way door speakers by Pioneer. I bought the Kenwood DDX 514. I also bought the Boss Bass 1200 on Amazon for about 150 (its an all in one amp and sub).

The Kenwood powers the pioneer door speakers and the tweeters, and the sub is plugged into the head unit through RCA's. The whole system cost me about 700 including installation. Its low profile and very nice. It really does sound good, and you can turn everything up loud

If you are looking for simple solution with not a lot of wires and under 1000 for everything, look into going this route.

BTW, in case anyone bashes my suggestions, just know I used to have a JL Audio 10 W7 and their matching 500/1 mono amp. That is the best amp sub combo in the world and just those two things ran me 1000$. I have heard the best, and my setup may not be the "top of the line", but coming from experience it is very nice.

Wow, nice suggestion.. I've already read various comments about the Boss Bass1200 and nothing but good words about it...

I didn't know it was an option to keep the stock tweeters.. How exactly are tweeters wired..?? Not familiar with this.. I've wired speakers to headunits before but always using 4-way or 5-way speakers directly hooked up to the HU but i've never used tweeters to filter out the high frequencies...

So, if I swap my door speakers, no need to swap the tweeters..?? Some lights on this appreciated...

cptspeed · 01-24-2010, 06:32 AM

If you are only changing the door speakers, I believe your wiring adapter should handle the connection to the stock tweets.

bigaudiofanat · 01-24-2010, 08:55 AM

I would not recommend using a cheap brand such as cheap in such a nice car. Also I would not recommend using the stock tweeters with any speaker. It would be 100 times better just to use the tweeters that are included in a component set.

cptspeed · 01-24-2010, 09:58 AM

pty370z · 01-24-2010, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

I would not recommend using a cheap brand such as cheap in such a nice car. Also I would not recommend using the stock tweeters with any speaker. It would be 100 times better just to use the tweeters that are included in a component set.

Are you talking about the Boss Bass1200..??

So you think I would be better off with the Kenwood I listed on the first post..??

ddvette9 · 01-24-2010, 10:44 AM

didn't realize that my setup was for a non bose. I am not really sure how the wiring would work as far as adding a powered sub, getting new door speakers/ kepping the tweeters. Listen to these other guys as far as that is concerned. I was just putting in my .02 as far as helping someone out who wanted something simple and cheap for the time being.

One more thing about a powered sub, whether it is the boss, the infiniti basslink, the kenwood you chose, etc. 1. They are easy to remove 2. they take up a small amount of space 3. they are rugged so you can ususally cover them with groceries, suitcases, etc and they wont be harmed. 4. if you ssytem gets stolen, the thief can easily just take your sub and he doesnt have to rip anything out of your car, he can just grab and go. 5. most of those are only 200 bucks, so at worst your out 200.

Will i be switching to a zenclosure box and a nicer sub later, absolutely. But for right now, if you are like me, I promise you will not be dissapointed with a powered sub. For 150-200$, i get good bass from hip hop, rap, and techno and have a durable unit that is easy to move or take out. Also, these powered units wont draw a lot off yor battery.

bigaudiofanat · 01-24-2010, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by pty370z

Are you talking about the Boss Bass1200..??

So you think I would be better off with the Kenwood I listed on the first post..??

Yes 100 times better. Anything like boss, pyle, pyramid any of the cheap stuff is not worth even a second look. Do not go cheap.

cptspeed · 01-24-2010, 01:53 PM

Can't comment on Boss, never had it. I will say it all depends on your needs and your budget. I must say i've heard lesser priced systems sound good enough for the average person. If you ask someone who has a trained ear or someone who has owned an ideal setup, their opinion is going to be biased. Just as if you have always owned a ferrari, you might consider our cars subpar. In the end whatever brand you go with will definately sound better than the crap that is in it now. Nobody can argue that.

cptspeed · 01-24-2010, 01:59 PM

On another note. The system in my car was previously in my 350. The tweets are in a different location and I don't have rear speakers now. I also bought better subs. This system is the best sounding one I've ever owned. In the 350 it was very disappointing. There are many factors that make a system sound awesome. Just keep that in mind.

pty370z · 01-24-2010, 11:07 PM

Does anybody know how much watts RMS are the stock Bose subs..??

I mean, combined or each one..??

That could help on the decision making process.. hehe.. Thanks again!

bigaudiofanat · 01-24-2010, 11:37 PM

I have no idea can not be much considering the size of the amp. Keep in mind even aftermarket sub pushing 110 watts is going to sound better than those things.

htt760 · 01-31-2010, 08:53 AM

big,

How is the stock bose sub system, since Im not going to be playing crazy and loud music I was thinking about just purchasing a stock bose sub system and adding new componets? I just want the setup to sound nice in the car nothing like license plate rattling?

Im have a opportunity to purchase just the sub system from some one for a good deal..?

Thanks in advance
Huy

bigaudiofanat · 01-31-2010, 10:39 AM

Honestly man I would not even give it the honor of calling it a sub nor calling the bose system a system at all. It would not even be that easy to install the bose sub and amp. Plus I am not sure you could even install the bose stuff with a base head unit. Do yourself a huge favor and stop looking at what you could try to do with bose and buy something real.

JB-370z · 02-02-2010, 08:27 PM

You paid alot of money to just make the bose audio go bye bye. This is why I bought a base model. I am making brakes, wheels and audio go bye bye and after market say hello!

pty370z · 03-01-2010, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

I have no idea can not be much considering the size of the amp. Keep in mind even aftermarket sub pushing 110 watts is going to sound better than those things.

Man, I have one question about this post...

When you said 110 watts here, did you mean 110W RMS or did you mean 110W max power...??

As in the subwoofer i'm using is the Kenwood KSC-SW10 amp/sub combo. Max power is 150W but the RMS watts will be less of course...

Just wondering... Thanks again for your help..

01-24-2010, 08:55 AM	#18 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 852	I would not recommend using a cheap brand such as cheap in such a nice car. Also I would not recommend using the stock tweeters with any speaker. It would be 100 times better just to use the tweeters that are included in a component set. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

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pty370z Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Panama City, Panama Posts: 654 Drives: over the speed limit Rep Power: 17	Does anybody know how much watts RMS are the stock Bose subs..?? I mean, combined or each one..?? That could help on the decision making process.. hehe.. Thanks again! __________________ 2010 Solid Red 370Z * *Touring-Sport-6MT Black Interior Performance:** STILLEN * BERK * UR * MISHIMOTO * K&N * Z1 * ZSPEED * UPREV * DBA Interior: GT-R Red Start/Stop Button * MSA Floor Mats * PW:JDM Exterior: INGS+1 * SEIBON * FUJIMURA * PW:JDM * UAM * KICS * VOLK

01-24-2010, 11:37 PM	#26 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 852	I have no idea can not be much considering the size of the amp. Keep in mind even aftermarket sub pushing 110 watts is going to sound better than those things. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

01-31-2010, 08:53 AM	#27 (permalink)
htt760 Base Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Bonsall, CA (San Diego) Posts: 246 Drives: 2009 Base 370z Rep Power: 15	big, How is the stock bose sub system, since Im not going to be playing crazy and loud music I was thinking about just purchasing a stock bose sub system and adding new componets? I just want the setup to sound nice in the car nothing like license plate rattling? Im have a opportunity to purchase just the sub system from some one for a good deal..? Thanks in advance Huy __________________ http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...f/Huys3701.jpg Volks LE 37's 19x9.5 - 19x10.5 (+12 offset), Status Elite Intakes and Some fast Stickers

01-31-2010, 10:39 AM	#28 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 852	Honestly man I would not even give it the honor of calling it a sub nor calling the bose system a system at all. It would not even be that easy to install the bose sub and amp. Plus I am not sure you could even install the bose stuff with a base head unit. Do yourself a huge favor and stop looking at what you could try to do with bose and buy something real. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

01-24-2010, 06:32 AM	#17 (permalink)
cptspeed Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: tampa Posts: 799 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 16	If you are only changing the door speakers, I believe your wiring adapter should handle the connection to the stock tweets.

01-24-2010, 09:58 AM	#19 (permalink)
cptspeed Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: tampa Posts: 799 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 16

01-24-2010, 10:44 AM	#21 (permalink)
ddvette9 Track Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 823 Drives: 2013 Scion FRS Rep Power: 17	didn't realize that my setup was for a non bose. I am not really sure how the wiring would work as far as adding a powered sub, getting new door speakers/ kepping the tweeters. Listen to these other guys as far as that is concerned. I was just putting in my .02 as far as helping someone out who wanted something simple and cheap for the time being. One more thing about a powered sub, whether it is the boss, the infiniti basslink, the kenwood you chose, etc. 1. They are easy to remove 2. they take up a small amount of space 3. they are rugged so you can ususally cover them with groceries, suitcases, etc and they wont be harmed. 4. if you ssytem gets stolen, the thief can easily just take your sub and he doesnt have to rip anything out of your car, he can just grab and go. 5. most of those are only 200 bucks, so at worst your out 200. Will i be switching to a zenclosure box and a nicer sub later, absolutely. But for right now, if you are like me, I promise you will not be dissapointed with a powered sub. For 150-200$, i get good bass from hip hop, rap, and techno and have a durable unit that is easy to move or take out. Also, these powered units wont draw a lot off yor battery.

01-24-2010, 01:53 PM	#23 (permalink)
cptspeed Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: tampa Posts: 799 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 16	Can't comment on Boss, never had it. I will say it all depends on your needs and your budget. I must say i've heard lesser priced systems sound good enough for the average person. If you ask someone who has a trained ear or someone who has owned an ideal setup, their opinion is going to be biased. Just as if you have always owned a ferrari, you might consider our cars subpar. In the end whatever brand you go with will definately sound better than the crap that is in it now. Nobody can argue that.

01-24-2010, 01:59 PM	#24 (permalink)
cptspeed Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: tampa Posts: 799 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 16	On another note. The system in my car was previously in my 350. The tweets are in a different location and I don't have rear speakers now. I also bought better subs. This system is the best sounding one I've ever owned. In the 350 it was very disappointing. There are many factors that make a system sound awesome. Just keep that in mind.

02-02-2010, 08:27 PM	#29 (permalink)
JB-370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 1,859 Drives: Stage 2 Twin Turbos Rep Power: 19	You paid alot of money to just make the bose audio go bye bye. This is why I bought a base model. I am making brakes, wheels and audio go bye bye and after market say hello! __________________ ll Baker Tuning ll GTM ll Powerhouse Amuse ll HKS ll Up-Rev ll iForged ll AP Racing ll Pioneer ll SPL ll Bride ll Top Secret ll OS Giken ll GTM Stage 2 Twin Turboed 370z (First in Texas, Thanks To Baker Tuning)

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