Base vs. Bose speaker/sound

bigaudiofanat · 09-17-2009, 09:25 PM

I will explain why the bose system is worse than the base system. Yes the bose has more speakers and a sub and all. But it also has what is called "sound processing circuitry" What this dose is looks at the signal of music and looks at what parts will distort the speakers and what parts it can not reproduce. Than what it dose is cuts them out of the signal than amplifies them and sends them to the speakers. So bose knows there speakers can not take a lot of power nor can there amps put a lot of power out. That is why the put this in ALL there merchandise form car audio to HT systems. So those subs in the bose system are not going to put out much of any base. In fact I have hear reports that the base models produces more bass than the bose system. This is the main reason why the base model is better than the bose. Not even upgrading the speakers will help the problem as the amp and processor will still do what they are doing. There are many other reasons as well.

speedaudio64 · 09-17-2009, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

I will explain why the bose system is worse than the base system. Yes the bose has more speakers and a sub and all. But it also has what is called "sound processing circuitry" What this dose is looks at the signal of music and looks at what parts will distort the speakers and what parts it can not reproduce. Than what it dose is cuts them out of the signal than amplifies them and sends them to the speakers. So bose knows there speakers can not take a lot of power nor can there amps put a lot of power out. That is why the put this in ALL there merchandise form car audio to HT systems. So those subs in the bose system are not going to put out much of any base. In fact I have hear reports that the base models produces more bass than the bose system. This is the main reason why the base model is better than the bose. Not even upgrading the speakers will help the problem as the amp and processor will still do what they are doing. There are many other reasons as well.

What he said

Even if you get the base one you are probably still going to want to upgrade.

polarity · 09-18-2009, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

I will explain why the bose system is worse than the base system. Yes the bose has more speakers and a sub and all. But it also has what is called "sound processing circuitry" What this dose is looks at the signal of music and looks at what parts will distort the speakers and what parts it can not reproduce. Than what it dose is cuts them out of the signal than amplifies them and sends them to the speakers. So bose knows there speakers can not take a lot of power nor can there amps put a lot of power out. That is why the put this in ALL there merchandise form car audio to HT systems. So those subs in the bose system are not going to put out much of any base. In fact I have hear reports that the base models produces more bass than the bose system. This is the main reason why the base model is better than the bose. Not even upgrading the speakers will help the problem as the amp and processor will still do what they are doing. There are many other reasons as well.

I agree with this, somewhat. Big is the man here so I'd trust his word of anyones but after listening to both bose and base I have to say it depends on what you want/like. I got the bose system and I've been kicking myself ever since. In my opinion it is a nice upgrade from base, but honestly if I would have spent the same money in an aftermarket setup I would have 10x the sound setup I have now. If you just like to listen to music loud, that sounds decent, with an OK bass hit, then the bose will be fine for you. If you're a sound nut who really cares about SQ, save your money, get the base, and do an aftermarket install.

Edit: Forgot to mention that if you do get the bose with nav/bluetooth/etc you will end up paying MORE if you dont like it, since you can't upgrade single components on it. From what Big and the others here have told me, bose is an all or nothing deal. You replace one piece you replace them all.

-William

kannibul · 09-18-2009, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by polarity

From what Big and the others here have told me, bose is an all or nothing deal. You replace one piece you replace them all.

-William

You would have to replace them all, but, you could do them in phases.

It's debatable which would be a better direction - but, I'd probably replace the drivers first, then replace the head unit/amp/crossovers,etc...

Footloose301 · 03-24-2011, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

I will explain why the bose system is worse than the base system. Yes the bose has more speakers and a sub and all. But it also has what is called "sound processing circuitry" What this dose is looks at the signal of music and looks at what parts will distort the speakers and what parts it can not reproduce. Than what it dose is cuts them out of the signal than amplifies them and sends them to the speakers. So bose knows there speakers can not take a lot of power nor can there amps put a lot of power out. That is why the put this in ALL there merchandise form car audio to HT systems. So those subs in the bose system are not going to put out much of any base. In fact I have hear reports that the base models produces more bass than the bose system. This is the main reason why the base model is better than the bose. Not even upgrading the speakers will help the problem as the amp and processor will still do what they are doing. There are many other reasons as well.

Coming from a Base model to a 40th with BOSE, I can assure you that the BOSE sounds much better and has more bass. It sounds even better when you connect your iPhone to the AUX input.

However, I am an audiophile and I know that the BOSE is not breath taking by any means. I want to switch everything out but then I'll lose the subwoofer in the trunk and I don't want all that weight from a custom box.

optiontrader · 03-25-2011, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Footloose301

Coming from a Base model to a 40th with BOSE, I can assure you that the BOSE sounds much better and has more bass. It sounds even better when you connect your iPhone to the AUX input.

However, I am an audiophile and I know that the BOSE is not breath taking by any means. I want to switch everything out but then I'll lose the subwoofer in the trunk and I don't want all that weight from a custom box.

My Bose system's days are numbered, just dunno how long. House first, then I start exorcising those bad electronics out of my Z.

370zDoc · 10-12-2011, 10:08 PM

To answer the original OPs question (like 2 years after the fact lol): the Bose upgrade is hardly any better than the crappy stock audio. You're way better off going aftermarket.

and while I'm on the subject of sound, I love this car to death but the audio system is absolutely unforgiveable; got in my bud's Si the other day and was blown away by the sound quality compared to the Z. I think it's a little embarassing that a Civic with "Honda premium sound" has a better sounding system than our beloved 370Z.

sonic370 · 10-12-2011, 10:15 PM

yeah it's a shame. the base system sounds
like a radio shack special

Mecinoid · 10-17-2011, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 370zDoc

To answer the original OPs question (like 2 years after the fact lol): the Bose upgrade is hardly any better than the crappy stock audio. You're way better off going aftermarket.

and while I'm on the subject of sound, I love this car to death but the audio system is absolutely unforgiveable; got in my bud's Si the other day and was blown away by the sound quality compared to the Z. I think it's a little embarassing that a Civic with "Honda premium sound" has a better sounding system than our beloved 370Z.

Yep, That is true... But, a stereo system is a easy swap. I pointed the bad stereo in the Base Model to my sales person who didn't even know it didn't have back speakers. I got a few hundered dollars off for that observation.

I mean really... the 350Z at least had speakers behind the seats to fill out the sound.

Pelican170 · 10-21-2011, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

I will explain why the bose system is worse than the base system. Yes the bose has more speakers and a sub and all. But it also has what is called "sound processing circuitry" What this dose is looks at the signal of music and looks at what parts will distort the speakers and what parts it can not reproduce. Than what it dose is cuts them out of the signal than amplifies them and sends them to the speakers. So bose knows there speakers can not take a lot of power nor can there amps put a lot of power out. That is why the put this in ALL there merchandise form car audio to HT systems. So those subs in the bose system are not going to put out much of any base. In fact I have hear reports that the base models produces more bass than the bose system. This is the main reason why the base model is better than the bose. Not even upgrading the speakers will help the problem as the amp and processor will still do what they are doing. There are many other reasons as well.

+1, anyone who is into sound knows to stay away from Bose. A lot of times, cheap speakers will in fact be better than Bose. Don't let their marketing fool you...

kenchan · 09-17-2009, 09:40 PM

+1 my G has Bose but i couldn't keep it stock.

kannibul · 09-18-2009, 09:28 AM

Bose systems sound better than standard OEM systems (otherwise they'd not have a market entrance point) - but they sure as hell don't sound as good as a well-designed aftermarket sound system.

chris410 · 09-18-2009, 09:35 AM

I have a touring and the bose sounds good for a stock system. If you want "good" sound the bose/touring is fine however, if you want REALLY good sound get the base or exclude the bose and upgrade.

bigaudiofanat · 09-18-2009, 09:49 AM

I have sat in both base and bose models and listened to a cd. The bose system just faded out stuff as you turn up the volume. I mean what is the point to that if you want it loud.

polarity · 09-18-2009, 09:55 AM

Hey Big, quick question. Can you upgrade the Bose parts with better bose stuff? Looking around at prices if I wanted to completely replace my bose setup and keep everything I have working properly (nav, bluetooth, etc) it's going to cost a ton, is there such a thing as a good bose setup (bigger amp, better sub and speakers)?

Sorry to hijack the thread.

-William

09-17-2009, 09:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 854	I will explain why the bose system is worse than the base system. Yes the bose has more speakers and a sub and all. But it also has what is called "sound processing circuitry" What this dose is looks at the signal of music and looks at what parts will distort the speakers and what parts it can not reproduce. Than what it dose is cuts them out of the signal than amplifies them and sends them to the speakers. So bose knows there speakers can not take a lot of power nor can there amps put a lot of power out. That is why the put this in ALL there merchandise form car audio to HT systems. So those subs in the bose system are not going to put out much of any base. In fact I have hear reports that the base models produces more bass than the bose system. This is the main reason why the base model is better than the bose. Not even upgrading the speakers will help the problem as the amp and processor will still do what they are doing. There are many other reasons as well. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

10-12-2011, 10:08 PM	#7 (permalink)
370zDoc Base Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 49 Drives: 370zBaseSport7AT MB Rep Power: 15	Audio Quality: Bose vs Base To answer the original OPs question (like 2 years after the fact lol): the Bose upgrade is hardly any better than the crappy stock audio. You're way better off going aftermarket. and while I'm on the subject of sound, I love this car to death but the audio system is absolutely unforgiveable; got in my bud's Si the other day and was blown away by the sound quality compared to the Z. I think it's a little embarassing that a Civic with "Honda premium sound" has a better sounding system than our beloved 370Z.

09-18-2009, 09:35 AM	#13 (permalink)
chris410 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 345 Drives: 10' GT500 Rep Power: 17	I have a touring and the bose sounds good for a stock system. If you want "good" sound the bose/touring is fine however, if you want REALLY good sound get the base or exclude the bose and upgrade. __________________ Chris Current: 2014 WRX Stage I + SPT / 2013 Hayabusa 202HP Former:09 370Z 7-AT PW/Ark Type 2 exhaust/Evo R lip/TSW Nurburgring carbon

09-18-2009, 09:49 AM	#14 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 854	I have sat in both base and bose models and listened to a cd. The bose system just faded out stuff as you turn up the volume. I mean what is the point to that if you want it loud. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

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10-12-2011, 10:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
sonic370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Orange Texas Posts: 1,574 Drives: 09 370Z Sports PGK Rep Power: 20	yeah it's a shame. the base system sounds like a radio shack special

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kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141522	+1 my G has Bose but i couldn't keep it stock.

09-18-2009, 09:28 AM	#12 (permalink)
kannibul A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Jenks, OK Posts: 2,281 Drives: 370z Touring/Sport Rep Power: 268	Bose systems sound better than standard OEM systems (otherwise they'd not have a market entrance point) - but they sure as hell don't sound as good as a well-designed aftermarket sound system.

09-18-2009, 09:55 AM	#15 (permalink)
polarity Base Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Mississippi Posts: 166 Drives: [2009 370Z] Rep Power: 18	Hey Big, quick question. Can you upgrade the Bose parts with better bose stuff? Looking around at prices if I wanted to completely replace my bose setup and keep everything I have working properly (nav, bluetooth, etc) it's going to cost a ton, is there such a thing as a good bose setup (bigger amp, better sub and speakers)? Sorry to hijack the thread. -William

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