![]() |
Quote:
|
Quote:
Well, rumor has it that Chris K is coming to ZATTACK in Nashville this April because my club does such a good job with the event that he want's to learn how we do it...the first words out of our President's mouth when he heard it at our January meeting was that maybe they (ZCCA) could start by learning how to count ballots! :) ROTFLMAO |
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
Will and I talked at length, before the 2011 event, regarding what went wrong at Nashville and I trust him that he did everything possible to host a great event but I don't know what actually happened at the event because I didn't go to Savannah (nor will I ever again attend another ZCCA event). This "trophy fiasco has now been an issue two years running...something is obviously VERY wrong. I don't know the root cause of the problem but there is no excuse for trophies being delivered months (or years) post event. If things are getting so out of hand that a local club simply can't do a national convention well and/or without huge costs and/or without huge screw-ups at ZCCA then maybe it's time for the conventions and for ZCCA itself to end. I attend several Z events every year all over the Eastern half of the U.S.and there is more than one of these events as good or better than the National Convention. Maybe ZCCA and National Conventions were needed 20+ years ago but they both may have quite possibly has reached the end of their usefulness. |
Quote:
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
I'm convinced that if Middle Tennessee had hosted the convention there would be no Middle Tennessee Z Club today. But you are right; many in the leadership of ZCCA have been there since the beginning...and "change" is not in their vocabulary. |
Quote:
|
Ok, now in defense of the ZCCA Gang. I have read the Bitch reports and although there are problems those that complain don't usually raise their hands to HELP.
You must also understand that they all have Daytime jobs and do all this GRATIS!! I have belonged to San Diego's Z club form almost 20 years and when elections or something that involves getting of your *** to help pop up you turn around and find you are all alone. Granted there are problems, your families has problem too, that's life. So unless you are willing to raise your hand and DO SOMETHING, pointing a finger at someone a bit uncalled for. Putting on a Convention is a huge amount of work and to coordinate all so that is goes smoothly an amazing feat of talent and a lot of luck. Go to the ZCON's and see your old friends make some knew ones... |
Quote:
No one is this thread ever implied that staging a major convention is easy but that wasn't the point and certainly not the point now...the point now is simply that there IS no rational defense for anyone to have to wait months or years to get stupid trophy from a stupid car show...NONE (even if you bold your defense). The most rational excuses for ZCCA taking that long is either... 1)ZCCA doesn't give a s**t, or 2) ZCCA is incompetent. I suspect it's equal measures of both 1 and 2. Let me put it another way: In the amount of time people have been waiting for trophies an organization and trophy business could have designed the trophies from scratch, produced them all (including engraving the name of the winner given that it was done weeks/months post event) and gotten them delivered. It just doesn't take six or seven or eighteen months or more to get the job done. I can't imagine any rational reason to explain why convention car show winners are waiting for months after the event to get their trophies and to have it happen two conventions in a row is truly beyond comprehension - two conventions in a row indicates some very serious systemic problems at ZCCA. |
lol^
|
Quote:
|
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:30 AM. |
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2