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295 would be better on at least 10.5, ideal 11 for a mild sidewall stretch

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Old 02-15-2013, 08:35 PM   #16 (permalink)
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295 would be better on at least 10.5, ideal 11 for a mild sidewall stretch
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275 is a mild stretch in 10.5". I dont mind it though and i hate stretched tires. i was only able to tell when my rim lip hit before tire sidewall lol.
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Ssr type-f's are worth a look

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Thanks for the advice guys. More options always great!

I personally love RE-11 but I believe RS3 are stickier when hot but does not provide good wet like RE-11s. Plus RE-11 for 18" don't come in 285, vise-versa RS3 doesn't come in 285 for 19".

I'll target for:
Hankook R-S3: 285/40 or 285/35 Square setup
Spacers: 10mm Front / 25mm or 30mm Rear
Wheels: 18x10.5" width all around with proper offset...
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275 is a mild stretch in 10.5". I dont mind it though and i hate stretched tires. i was only able to tell when my rim lip hit before tire sidewall lol.
a mild stretch actually quickens the tire's ability to produce grip under cornering load, since the contact patch doesnt actually grip until the sidewall is in tension, so running a mild stretch "pre loads" the sidewall making for faster response, so in turn faster lap times.

when you run a tire too wide for the rim width, not only is that grip response slowed, but their is also more contact patch deformation while cornering.

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Thanks for the advice guys. More options always great!

I personally love RE-11 but I believe RS3 are stickier when hot but does not provide good wet like RE-11s. Plus RE-11 for 18" don't come in 285, vise-versa RS3 doesn't come in 285 for 19".

I'll target for:
Hankook R-S3: 285/40 or 285/35 Square setup
Spacers: 10mm Front / 25mm or 30mm Rear
Wheels: 18x10.5" width all around with proper offset...
285/35/18 on 18x10.5 all around is the ticket. Martin and i will be running RS3s in those same sizes soon. im also getting NT03s as my track wheels soon also

in the front et30 is the safe limit inward, and what i run et28 is in my opinion the safe limit outward with a 285/35/18 tire and -3 camber. no rubbing on anything what so ever, you might be able to run more aggresive offset, but i havent tested that so i cant say for sure. Just i know under track conditions, those offsets are proven in front
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a mild stretch actually quickens the tire's ability to produce grip under cornering load, since the contact patch doesnt actually grip until the sidewall is in tension, so running a mild stretch "pre loads" the sidewall making for faster response, so in turn faster lap times.

when you run a tire too wide for the rim width, not only is that grip response slowed, but their is also more contact patch deformation while cornering.



285/35/18 on 18x10.5 all around is the ticket. Martin and i will be running RS3s in those same sizes soon. im also getting NT03s as my track wheels soon also

in the front et30 is the safe limit inward, and what i run et28 is in my opinion the safe limit outward with a 285/35/18 tire and -3 camber. no rubbing on anything what so ever, you might be able to run more aggresive offset, but i havent tested that so i cant say for sure. Just i know under track conditions, those offsets are proven in front

great info all around. +1
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285/35/18 on 18x10.5 all around is the ticket. Martin and i will be running RS3s in those same sizes soon. im also getting NT03s as my track wheels soon also

in the front et30 is the safe limit inward, and what i run et28 is in my opinion the safe limit outward with a 285/35/18 tire and -3 camber. no rubbing on anything what so ever, you might be able to run more aggresive offset, but i havent tested that so i cant say for sure. Just i know under track conditions, those offsets are proven in front
I have decided to go with a new set of 18" track dedicated wheels.
I would prefer to have 18x10 in front and 18x10.5 in rear but most wheels only have either 9.5 or 10.5 for 18".

So I will go with 18x10.5 all around as my main goal is to be able to run a true square setup.

Clint, I saw your previous setup with:
F:18x9.5 +35 (20mm Spacer) - Offset=15mm; Camber: -3 Degrees
R:18x10.5 +15 (No Spacer) - Offset=15mm; Camber: -2 Degrees

If I were to go with the Enkei PF01, would you recommend the following?
F: 18x10.5 +38 (20mm Spacer) - Offset=18mm; Camber: -2.9 Degrees
R:18x10.5 +15 (No Spacer) - Offset=15mm; Camber: -1.8 Degrees

Will this clear the front brakes or not rub? Any help would be great.

Do you know of any 18x10.5 wheel setup that doesn't require spacers?
i.e. can I go with the following w/ same wheels all around? Will this clear the front brakes?
F: 18x10.5 +15 (No Spacer) - Offset=15mm; Camber: -2.9 Degrees
R:18x10.5 +15 (No Spacer) - Offset=15mm; Camber: -1.8 Degrees
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Anyone know if this will work for the TSW Nurburgring?
F: 18x10.5 +27 (No Spacer) - Offset=27mm; Camber: -2.9 Degrees
R:18x10.5 +27 (No Spacer) - Offset=27mm; Camber: -1.8 Degrees
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I have decided to go with a new set of 18" track dedicated wheels.
I would prefer to have 18x10 in front and 18x10.5 in rear but most wheels only have either 9.5 or 10.5 for 18".

So I will go with 18x10.5 all around as my main goal is to be able to run a true square setup.

Clint, I saw your previous setup with:
F:18x9.5 +35 (20mm Spacer) - Offset=15mm; Camber: -3 Degrees
R:18x10.5 +15 (No Spacer) - Offset=15mm; Camber: -2 Degrees

If I were to go with the Enkei PF01, would you recommend the following?
F: 18x10.5 +38 (20mm Spacer) - Offset=18mm; Camber: -2.9 Degrees
R:18x10.5 +15 (No Spacer) - Offset=15mm; Camber: -1.8 Degrees

Will this clear the front brakes or not rub? Any help would be great.

Do you know of any 18x10.5 wheel setup that doesn't require spacers?
i.e. can I go with the following w/ same wheels all around? Will this clear the front brakes?
F: 18x10.5 +15 (No Spacer) - Offset=15mm; Camber: -2.9 Degrees
R:18x10.5 +15 (No Spacer) - Offset=15mm; Camber: -1.8 Degrees
18x10.5 et +38 with 20mm spacer will be too much. 10.5 et 28 (10mm spacer) and 9.5 et15 are the same outter clearance and what i feel is the performance oriented limit for clearance on track.

same with 18x10.5 et15, too far outward. street/flush/stretch guys can kinda run it, but not if you plan to do any tracking

either do my setup (18x10.5 sqaure, et38 and 10mm spacer for et28 front, et15 rear)
or martin's setup which will be my track setup as well soon(NT03 18x10.5 et30 all around 15mm spacer rear)

these two setups are track proven with 285/35/18 tires and clear the brakes no problem
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I would go the spacer routine, then you can rotate front to back.
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I would go the spacer routine, then you can rotate front to back.
exactly why martin did the NT03 setup and why i will also
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yup, thanks to Clint for doing the hw for me! Scuffydog, just remember if you slam ur car, the tires will rub some of the fender liners.... I doubt anyone is running as low as me at the moment but I will need to raise the car, realign and recorner balance its just too low! I shoot sparks at the track and street!!
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the HW portion sucks hahah, but i created a ton of excel spreadsheets with all the wheel config I'd want but just need verification that works.

I love your set up and might copy it as i know it works - 21 lbs/wheel and a good price, not bad at all!

But I'm also looking at the TSW Nurburging 18x10.5, I think they only have 27mm offset. Anyway I could make it work with spacers?

Thanks for the help.
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yup, thanks to Clint for doing the hw for me! Scuffydog, just remember if you slam ur car, the tires will rub some of the fender liners.... I doubt anyone is running as low as me at the moment but I will need to raise the car, realign and recorner balance its just too low! I shoot sparks at the track and street!!
I actually will be running it as high as my KW V3 allows. I'm gonna take it corner balanced again and re-aligned the car again too.
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