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Thanks everyone; I took the car to get the alignment. Here's the results: Front Intital Final Spec min, Spec max Caster L 5.2 5.1 4.4 - 5.9 Caster R 5.1

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Old 07-26-2011, 04:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Thanks everyone; I took the car to get the alignment. Here's the results:

Front Intital Final Spec min, Spec max
Caster L 5.2 5.1 4.4 - 5.9
Caster R 5.1 5.0 4.4 - 5.9
Camber L -1.1 -1.1 -1.4 - .01
Camber R -1.3 -1.3 -1.4 - .01
Toe L 0.07 0.04 0.02 - 0.05
Toe R 0.14 0.03 0.02 - 0.05
Toe Total 0.21 0.07 0.05 - 0.11

Rear Intital Final Spec min, Spec max
Camber L -2.5 -2.0 -2.2 - -1.2
Camber R -2.3 -1.8 -2.2 - -1.2
Toe L 0.32 0.09 0.04 - 0.11
Toe R 0.15 0.09 0.04 - 0.11
Toe Total 0.47 0.18 0.09 - 0.21
Thust Angle 0.1 0.0

All Secondary Angles are perfect initial and final.
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Old 07-26-2011, 04:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Does the car still vibrate after the alignment?
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I have was stuck in traffic from the shop to home and couldn't get the car up to 65+. Tomorrow morning I'll update.

but if I were to make a bet it would be that it does fix it.

Otherwise the shop wants me to get the tires balanced. (no cost)
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Well, no change after the alignment even though some numbers were pretty off spec.

Today I'll take it to get balanced to see if that fixes the wheel and gas pedal vibration after 65mph.
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When the steering whee vibrates after a spacer install, the issue isn't the alignment or the balance. The problem is the spacer install.
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When the steering whee vibrates after a spacer install, the issue isn't the alignment or the balance. The problem is the spacer install.
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yea something's not jiving, i will say that i've heard (slightly) warped spacers can cause issues
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Even if the balance helps a bit, its only masking the original problem. Unless of course, there was a balance problem to begin with. I believe in this case there wasn't. Right?
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at least he can rule out the wheel/tires being okay i guess.
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Might as well change the oil at this point. Just to make sure.
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Well, just returned from a nice long ride following the balancing. No noticable vibration and I was having fun again driving, not noticing the speedometer!
The front left was 1 ounce off.
I'm back to being happy.
If doing the alignment and balancing is masking the problem, what could be the issues to look for after the next 1000 miles?
If the vibration comes back, and today's drive was just a dream, would removing the front spacers and going back to stock in the front, keeping the 20mm in the rear be the next step in troubleshooting?
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what the hell is going on with you guys getting vibrations from spacers, not just the OP but others. If they have hubcentric rings or built in rings you should get nothing of the sort. I ran rear spacers of 3 different sizes, twice with no hubcentric rings and I never ever got vibrations. Adding spacers would not cause your Z to be out of alignment either.

You dont really need hubcentric rings unless you plan on going over 120 mph on a regular basis, its just recommended you have them to be safe...and I do recommend them.
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what the hell is going on with you guys getting vibrations from spacers, not just the OP but others. If they have hubcentric rings or built in rings you should get nothing of the sort. I ran rear spacers of 3 different sizes, twice with no hubcentric rings and I never ever got vibrations. Adding spacers would not cause your Z to be out of alignment either.

You dont really need hubcentric rings unless you plan on going over 120 mph on a regular basis, its just recommended you have them to be safe...and I do recommend them.
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Zerafian - do you have front spacers too?
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so the weight fell off while they were doing the install? perhaps they bumped the weight on your caliper when they removed the wheel from the car.

anyway good to hear your wheels are balanced and vibration is fixed.
that's not a mask, should be permanent then.
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