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onzedge 03-06-2011 09:02 AM

Michelin Pilot Super Sport
 
Does anyone have any experience with the Super Sport yet? It is tire replacement time for me within a few months and would appreciate any feedback on these if anyone has it.

Thanks in advance.

fuzzywuzzy 03-06-2011 09:22 AM

Go with re-11's you'll be happier

onzedge 03-06-2011 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzzywuzzy (Post 972054)
Go with re-11's you'll be happier

I was thinking of those, but want to keep the OEM tire sizes.

spearfish25 03-06-2011 09:43 AM

You'd be paying a premium for max performance rather than extreme performance tires (max is below extreme...I know, a stupid categorizing system). I wouldn't be too concerned about moving away from OEM tire widths.

daisuke149 03-06-2011 10:15 AM

Looking for super sticky tires or otherwise really good tires?

If you dont care for maximum grio combined with low tread life, go continental extreme contact dw.

SPOHN 03-06-2011 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzzywuzzy (Post 972054)
Go with re-11's you'll be happier

:iagree: These are the best tires I've ever owned. Hands down. When cornering the just grip like velcro.

kenchan 03-06-2011 11:48 AM

Going to try the conti ext dw's this summer. The main benefit might be how light weight they seem to be vs RE050A's. They seem to stick just as well as stock from the reviews and quieter. Will find out.

onzedge 03-23-2011 06:51 PM

After much internal mental debate and research, I am going for the Pilot Super Sport next month (when they are avaialble). I will post a review.

kenchan 03-23-2011 07:02 PM

Sounds good! :)

onzedge 03-23-2011 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1006411)
Sounds good! :)

We'll see. I have always had good success with Michelins. All Super Sport reviews are postive.

christian370z 03-23-2011 10:05 PM

I watched a preliminary review of the Super Sport tires on a manner of super cars and the results seemed to be very good. I would probably go with RE-11s personally but it depends on the pricing of the Super Sports (which I'm certain won't be cheap).

onzedge 03-23-2011 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by christian370z (Post 1006795)
I watched a preliminary review of the Super Sport tires on a manner of super cars and the results seemed to be very good. I would probably go with RE-11s personally but it depends on the pricing of the Super Sports (which I'm certain won't be cheap).

I am getting the PSS for $1,330 plus a few bucks for shipping. Mount and balance is free in one of my son's shops. The RE-11 or Pole Position were my second choices and I think the price difference was small (like around 100 bucks).

I don't know if this is the perfect choice -- there probably isn't one because everyone drives their cars differently and such. I just think that the probable better longevity and probable good to excellent performance, why not Super Sports?

darrinps 03-23-2011 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 972103)
Looking for super sticky tires or otherwise really good tires?

If you dont care for maximum grio combined with low tread life, go continental extreme contact dw.

I am kind of an over analyzer when it comes to tires, and I honestly think that all things considered, unless you want something that will only last 10K miles or so, the ContinentalExtremeContact DW is the best tire out there and the tests will back that up.

They will be on my Z in another 2K miles or so when the Yokohama's give up the ghost.

onzedge 03-23-2011 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by darrinps (Post 1006890)
I am kind of an over analyzer when it comes to tires, and I honestly think that all things considered, unless you want something that will only last 10K miles or so, the ContinentalExtremeContact DW is the best tire out there and the tests will back that up.

They will be on my Z in another 2K miles or so when the Yokohama's give up the ghost.

I will end up getting about 17,000 miles out of the RE05A's and could probably go more if I wanted to be out of my comfort zone. I fully expect to get at least that out of the PSS's -- probalby much more.

Tires are a funny thing. Regardless of the specs and test results, I have found people go with what they know, by and large. If BF Goodrich made something beside the G-Force for the 370Z, I would probably go with that brand. I have had nothing but good results from Goodrich on many vehicles, Z's included (old school Z's).

Red__Zed 03-24-2011 12:11 AM

Interested to see your opinions on the tires.

Pat@SMM 03-24-2011 02:45 PM

I just ordered a set of Super Sports in these sizes. 275-35-19 and 305-30-19

kenchan 03-24-2011 02:58 PM

dang, those are wide. :D

kenchan 03-24-2011 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1006939)
Tires are a funny thing. Regardless of the specs and test results, I have found people go with what they know, by and large. If BF Goodrich made something beside the G-Force for the 370Z, I would probably go with that brand. I have had nothing but good results from Goodrich on many vehicles, Z's included (old school Z's).

yah most people usually go based on price and tread life. like they would buy expensive wheels but cheap out on tires. :icon14:

im a big fan of Bridgestone (mostly for the snappy response they provide on their summer tires) but that doesnt stop me from experimenting other brands. :)

especially not when tires are like 5+lbs lighter each and test show very good results. :tup:

Jordo! 03-24-2011 03:04 PM

Will 305's fit the 19" sport rays? I thought they rubbed. :confused:

Also, I can't find any info on what these tires weigh :icon14:

Looking at the Advan Neova AD08 -- tire rack gives them about the same ranking as the RE-11's -- guessing they cost less?

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...otenza+RE-11_1

christian370z 03-24-2011 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 1009081)
Will 305's fit the 19" sport rays? I thought they rubbed. :confused:

Also, I can't find any info on what these tires weigh :icon14:

I know a couple people who run 305 width tires on Rays wheels and have no issues, even with a 20mm spacer.

Pat@SMM 03-25-2011 08:27 AM

I think the sport RAYS in the rear are 10.5 inches wide, 295 is more ideal on a 10.5 inch than 305's. I'm putting these on 10 and 11 inch wheels.

Jordo! 03-25-2011 08:39 AM

OEM Rays are 19x9 Front, 19x10 Rear

spearfish25 03-25-2011 08:45 AM

305 on 10" rims is out of spec. I wouldn't track the car like that.

Pat@SMM 03-25-2011 09:11 AM

Sorry, I meant to say the Nismo Rays. Aren't those 10.5 inches wide in the rear?

christian370z 03-25-2011 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 1010747)
305 on 10" rims is out of spec. I wouldn't track the car like that.

I think that the perfect tire sizing for the Rays wheels is 255/285 front and rear, is that what you might recommend for a tire setup size wise?

kenchan 03-25-2011 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Pat@SMM (Post 1010792)
Sorry, I meant to say the Nismo Rays. Aren't those 10.5 inches wide in the rear?

yep, they are 9.5 front ET40 and 10.5 rear ET23.

jikhead 03-25-2011 12:05 PM

You can't go wrong with any Michelin...had them on my truck as well as my old car...best tires I've owned.

onzedge 05-09-2011 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pat@SMM (Post 1009001)
I just ordered a set of Super Sports in these sizes. 275-35-19 and 305-30-19

How do you like your tires so far?

Elysium 05-10-2011 09:34 AM

I've been driving on them for a couple of weeks now and my first intitial impression is that they are a much better tire than what I had on previously which were NT-05's
Much quieter for street driving and a lot more planted and stable with the spirited driving that I've been doing on the ramps. I don't do much driving in the rain but I would also guess that they will be way better in wet conditions as well.

I actually went lapping this weekend with them and my intial first impressions were that they had pretty good turn in and decent grip, but I was trying different pressures to find what is ideal. The track is still pretty green so I wasn't pushing too hard but for a street tire that has a treadwear rating of 300 it has very decent grip. I think it will offer about the same amount of dry weather grip as my old Yokohama AD08's but a lot more comfortable on the street with better wet performance and longer life.
It still doesn't touch a full R compound or slicks though so I'll save these just for the street and back to slicks for me.

I'd definitely recommend these for any Z.

onzedge 05-10-2011 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Elysium (Post 1100634)
I've been driving on them for a couple of weeks now and my first intitial impression is that they are a much better tire than what I had on previously which were NT-05's
Much quieter for street driving and a lot more planted and stable with the spirited driving that I've been doing on the ramps. I don't do much driving in the rain but I would also guess that they will be way better in wet conditions as well.

I actually went lapping this weekend with them and my intial first impressions were that they had pretty good turn in and decent grip, but I was trying different pressures to find what is ideal. The track is still pretty green so I wasn't pushing too hard but for a street tire that has a treadwear rating of 300 it has very decent grip. I think it will offer about the same amount of dry weather grip as my old Yokohama AD08's but a lot more comfortable on the street with better wet performance and longer life.
It still doesn't touch a full R compound or slicks though so I'll save these just for the street and back to slicks for me.

I'd definitely recommend these for any Z.

Nice write-up. I have had mine on my Z since 4-16-11 and I absolutely agree with all of your impressions. I think they are great tires. I even got my car featured on the Pilot Super Sport web site. It is probably no big deal, but it is cool to me.

Michelin Pilot Super Sport

:driving:

jikhead 05-10-2011 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1009078)
yah most people usually go based on price and tread life. like they would buy expensive wheels but cheap out on tires. :icon14:

im a big fan of Bridgestone (mostly for the snappy response they provide on their summer tires) but that doesnt stop me from experimenting other brands. :)

especially not when tires are like 5+lbs lighter each and test show very good results. :tup:

You guys are right....I just put these Michelins on yesterday.

On my last set of tires for my old WRX, I bought some Kumho's because they were cheap ($100/tire) and they tested out #1 in a comparison test by Tire Rack. I figured they must be pretty good if TR says they are. Well, they sucked ***. I had one blow out on me after a couple of months, and neither the installer or Kumho would give me a new tire...heck, Kumho never even responded to my emails. On top of that, they wore really bad. Even though I had (-) toe with my suspension setup, they wore unevenly much more quickly than all my previous sets of tires. So, never again will I purchase Kumho tires.

I have had Michelins are both cars and trucks and they gave me great performance and decent wear on my cars, and awesome wear on my trucks. So I'm going with what I know....that Michelin tires are some of the best.

wilsonp 05-10-2011 05:20 PM

Link says Invitation only, but that is still nice.

Zxces50 08-08-2011 08:26 PM

PSS update- April install~ 4K miles road & track (HPDE 2/3 three track days)
Sport Rays - kept Stock sizes- figure Nissan put some thought into it and I was happy how they worked for me
Daily driver- a little quiter than Potenza (subjective), great great wet traction- really loves the wet, dry would say same as Potenza. Per spec they are ~ 4-5 Lbs lighter each over Potenza ea
Track- did 7-8 track days on Potenza- always consistent, very confident, did get a little greasy and could definately feel the slide into a session. PSS- solid/ consistent, feel good, stick well- no greasy ( did a 40 minute sesion at NJMP this weekend 95F) tires performed great- could really push. Tread wear - suppose to be more than Potenza but maybe just a little more- I am not thinking they will last all that much longer than the Potenza

Others may like want other tires based on how they drive and what goals but for me these worked great

onzedge 08-08-2011 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zxces50 (Post 1251540)
PSS update- April install~ 4K miles road & track (HPDE 2/3 three track days)
Sport Rays - kept Stock sizes- figure Nissan put some thought into it and I was happy how they worked for me
Daily driver- a little quiter than Potenza (subjective), great great wet traction- really loves the wet, dry would say same as Potenza. Per spec they are ~ 4-5 Lbs lighter each over Potenza ea
Track- did 7-8 track days on Potenza- always consistent, very confident, did get a little greasy and could definately feel the slide into a session. PSS- solid/ consistent, feel good, stick well- no greasy ( did a 40 minute sesion at NJMP this weekend 95F) tires performed great- could really push. Tread wear - suppose to be more than Potenza but maybe just a little more- I am not thinking they will last all that much longer than the Potenza

Others may like want other tires based on how they drive and what goals but for me these worked great

Nice review. I have about 4,000 mi on mine and they are impressive in both dry and wet.

Halcom2 08-08-2011 09:23 PM

I bought my 2009 3 months ago. The previous owner had replaced the OEM Bridges in the rear with Super Sports. Still had the Bridges on the front and they were very noisy with the Sport package. Just replaced fronts with the NEW Super Sports ( see photos ) and the difference is amazing. Much quieter, better handling and 30,000 miles warranty. A bit pricey, cost me $800 installed but worth every penny.

onzedge 08-08-2011 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Halcom2 (Post 1251636)
I bought my 2009 3 months ago. The previous owner had replaced the OEM Bridges in the rear with Super Sports. Still had the Bridges on the front and they were very noisy with the Sport package. Just replaced fronts with the NEW Super Sports ( see photos ) and the difference is amazing. Much quieter, better handling and 30,000 miles warranty. A bit pricey, cost me $800 installed but worth every penny.

:tup:

Mt Tam I am 08-08-2011 10:46 PM

I am still breaking mine in, but I notice how responsive they are. I think a little bit more so than the Potenza's.

Fern to the Z 08-17-2011 06:59 AM

Hey guys thinking of going with the SS for my new wheels..
size are as follows: 19x9.5et22 and 19x10.5et12...
I wanted to go 265/35/19 F + 285/35/19 R, but I believe the SS's dont come in 265/35 so I might have to go with 255/35 or 265/30... but then it also turn out that they're not available in 285/35... its either 295/30 or 275/35 for rear...... So help me out guys whats the best combo 255/35F + 275/35 R or 265/350F + 295/30 or dare I say it.... 275/30or 35 F + 305 / 30 R!!! All opinions greatly appreciated.... Thanks...

Halcom2 08-17-2011 08:52 PM

Too late for you now but in my opinion just put the SS's on the OEM Rays. I have the new SS's on my 275/40/19's in back and on the 245/40/19's up front. No rubbing problems and no rooster tails. Anything else just doesn't make sense. Phenomenal handling, amazing traction and so much quieter than the original Bridges. The original forged Rays are terrific. Why mess with them. Spend your money on a 3m ceramic window film. Incredible stuff.

XwChriswX 08-17-2011 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fern to the Z (Post 1265603)
Hey guys thinking of going with the SS for my new wheels..
size are as follows: 19x9.5et22 and 19x10.5et12...
I wanted to go 265/35/19 F + 285/35/19 R, but I believe the SS's dont come in 265/35 so I might have to go with 255/35 or 265/30... but then it also turn out that they're not available in 285/35... its either 295/30 or 275/35 for rear...... So help me out guys whats the best combo 255/35F + 275/35 R or 265/350F + 295/30 or dare I say it.... 275/30or 35 F + 305 / 30 R!!! All opinions greatly appreciated.... Thanks...

I'm currently running 255/295 and have no understeer problems. And from a 295 to a 305 you're looking at an increase of $40 per tire. :ugh2:


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