NEW Titanium Lugs!!!

Originally Posted by 1slow370

courtesy doesn't use standered part numbers they have there own system for the website i had to call for a cross refferance when looking for my axles. Also i have used aftermarket mag nuts before most just come with washers that slide on and off of the nut, they come in a bag when you get the nuts so they don't have to be attached the principle is the same as the oem alluminum wheels that have conical steel seats pressed in ( it's a gm thing). the steel washer is just there to keep the steel nut from scarring the crap out of the nut seat. the ones with the conical steel seats pressed into the wheels for the acorn style nuts also increase the clamping area from the nut to reduce the stress in the wheel that leads to cracking. think of it as a shoulder bolt with a washer, the shank of the bolt aligns the wheel and the washer is there to help in clamping and reduce the stress on the wheel.

On the alluminum alternative, personally i hate alluminum nuts it only takes one getting seized to a stud, cracking/exploding off the wheel in a corner, rounding the crap out of one with an impact removing them if you take it to a shop, to make you really reconsider ever having bought them. Titanium is great though, as well as a heat treated stainless if you are looking for a lower cost alternative to titanium.

Originally Posted by Mike@Blackline

thanks for all the input. its been determined that they'll most likely include the washers not built in, like you said. ill see what they say about the heat treated ss
edit: just for my knowledge so I can get straight to asking without having to ask questions about it, what material do you guys recommend the washers be made of? same as the lug nuts, or something different? maybe theres an industry standard material for the washers or something like that

Originally Posted by TipsZ

Thanks for staying on top of this. I am not sure what the washer material should be .. I would assume the washer is just a buffer that prevents the torque from damaging the rims ... perhaps I am wrong though ...