Nismo factory rims powder coated GR-02

jmlenz · 03-14-2010, 12:36 AM

holy crap that is terrible. I had my wheels powdercoated (paid exactly the same as you BTW) and this def did not happen. Finish is very tough and didnt even scratch with tire mounting. Powdercoat was Sherman Williams I believe.

schrute · 03-14-2010, 12:43 AM

Definitely sorry to see this, hope the shop makes it right!

nuTinmuch · 03-14-2010, 01:55 AM

...and my powdercoating fears are back.

vortrex · 03-14-2010, 04:00 AM

I guess maybe that's why the price was so low? in SF I was quoted $150 per wheel, but the guy does a great job with the proper prep.

Minicobra1 · 03-14-2010, 04:18 AM

Yeah, it sucks, kind of took the fun out of my new wheel install

I'll probably take the wheel back on Monday. I did manage to make it over to the Cerritos meet, although very late, was still fun to hang out with everyone.
I'll try to get some better shots (not camera phone) in the daytime.

Minicobra1 · 03-14-2010, 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vortrex

I guess maybe that's why the price was so low? in SF I was quoted $150 per wheel, but the guy does a great job with the proper prep.

IDK, I got quotes from 4 different coaters, they were all $65 to $85 per wheel.
This place was actually on the high side, I went with them because they were open 24hrs, thought they had a pretty good reputation. I guess you can never tell.

schrack150 · 03-14-2010, 04:26 AM

look great
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G Fo12ce · 03-14-2010, 10:08 AM

looks good, but take them back and get them redone! At least you know they can't duck you lol. 24hrs right?

Mike · 03-14-2010, 02:31 PM

that is definitely an undercure issue. completely stripping or just scuffing the wheels before coating really doesn't make a difference. I have a set of track wheels for my corvette that I did zero prep to just to see how they would turn out and hold up. Just took them out of the box and coated over the factory paint, and they went through several tire changes without a problem.

Yours however, are definitely not fully cured. The first set of wheels I ever did for a friend had that same problem, and I learned they take a good amount of time to come up to temperature, so they have to cure a little longer than most things.

Minicobra1 · 03-14-2010, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike

that is definitely an undercure issue. completely stripping or just scuffing the wheels before coating really doesn't make a difference. I have a set of track wheels for my corvette that I did zero prep to just to see how they would turn out and hold up. Just took them out of the box and coated over the factory paint, and they went through several tire changes without a problem.

Yours however, are definitely not fully cured. The first set of wheels I ever did for a friend had that same problem, and I learned they take a good amount of time to come up to temperature, so they have to cure a little longer than most things.

So prep is as important when powder coating compared to painting? Here is a couple more pics of the rims, they definitely didn't chemically strip or sandblast like they said they would (which I paid extra for, bc they said it needed it) There is a tiny bit of scuffing on some parts, but where the curve is, it's the original coating and really smooth. it just peels off with your fingernail.

My big concern is that the other rims will start to do it

I'm not sure if I feel comfortable taking all of them back to this place again, kind of like sending food back to the chef. I might see if I can get my money back, or at least for the one rim, and just take them to another place.

To be honest, I'm not real happy with the color either, but that's not there fault, I actually had a sample that was labeled Cardinal GR-02 from another place.Turns out it wasn't GR-02, the GR-02 has a slight blue metallic in in it, which is what I didn't want. They did it the right color, the sample I had was labeled incorrectly from the other place, so I got pooched either way.

Minicobra1 · 03-14-2010, 05:22 PM

Here is a few shots of them mounted.

kevr6 · 03-14-2010, 05:38 PM

They look great!! Well done! Hope you get the finish issue handled ok!

NA&CH · 03-14-2010, 06:57 PM

well they look very nice mounted. Love that style rim. Sorry to hear about the finish...

Chris

vortrex · 03-14-2010, 08:23 PM

I think PG is a very hard color to match wheels to. they definitely look too blue in those higher res pics. I think matte black is the way to go with PG. this might work out well for you, get them all redone for no charge in a new color. I've had motorcycle wheels and frames powdercoated and it's virtually indestructible. my stuff was prepped with a media blast. I guess mike says it doesn't matter, but I surely would feel better about the new finish biting into clean metal.

Mike · 03-14-2010, 08:37 PM

prep is improtant, but more for cleanliness. All things considered, I still prefer freshly blasted wheels myself, but most people don't want to pay the extra 40 per wheel that I have to pay the blasting shop, so I usually don't do that. I actually wetsand the original finish with a sanding block and soapy water to prep them.

There is a chance the others may do it to. Since they are using a conveyer system, it seems like it would be logical that they all went into the oven one after another and cured for the same amount of time.

They need to cure for a minimum of 20 minutes after the metal comes up to the 400 degree temperature, so for a wheel, its typically about an hour and a half that I have them in the oven.

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03-14-2010, 12:43 AM	#32 (permalink)
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03-14-2010, 01:55 AM	#33 (permalink)
nuTinmuch A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,092 Drives: PG 7AT 370Z Rep Power: 17	...and my powdercoating fears are back. __________________ nuTinmuch! -- Platinum Graphite 370Z -- Check out my Gallery thread here!

03-14-2010, 04:26 AM	#37 (permalink)
schrack150 Track Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Wheeling, West Virginia Age: 37 Posts: 590 Drives: 09 370z PW Rep Power: 16	look great ________ The cigar boss Last edited by schrack150; 04-11-2011 at 01:27 AM.

03-14-2010, 10:08 AM	#38 (permalink)
G Fo12ce Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 996 Drives: Sold! Rep Power: 51	looks good, but take them back and get them redone! At least you know they can't duck you lol. 24hrs right? __________________ Nismo Suspension: New Owners Check Here!

03-14-2010, 12:36 AM	#31 (permalink)
jmlenz Track Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 645 Drives: a car Rep Power: 642	holy crap that is terrible. I had my wheels powdercoated (paid exactly the same as you BTW) and this def did not happen. Finish is very tough and didnt even scratch with tire mounting. Powdercoat was Sherman Williams I believe.

03-14-2010, 04:00 AM	#34 (permalink)
vortrex Base Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: SF, CA Posts: 199 Drives: '09 370z 6spd Rep Power: 15	I guess maybe that's why the price was so low? in SF I was quoted $150 per wheel, but the guy does a great job with the proper prep.

03-14-2010, 02:31 PM	#39 (permalink)
Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2185	that is definitely an undercure issue. completely stripping or just scuffing the wheels before coating really doesn't make a difference. I have a set of track wheels for my corvette that I did zero prep to just to see how they would turn out and hold up. Just took them out of the box and coated over the factory paint, and they went through several tire changes without a problem. Yours however, are definitely not fully cured. The first set of wheels I ever did for a friend had that same problem, and I learned they take a good amount of time to come up to temperature, so they have to cure a little longer than most things. __________________ NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968

03-14-2010, 05:22 PM	#41 (permalink)
Minicobra1 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Orange County, CA. Posts: 1,205 Drives: 370Z Tour, Spt, 6mt Rep Power: 644	Here is a few shots of them mounted. __________________ 370z Tour\| Spt Pack\|Navi\|BERK CBE\|Berk HFC's\| Eibach Springs\| Hotchkis Sway Bars\|SPC Camber Arms\|15mm Ichiba Wheel Spacers\| 19"Factory Nismo Wheels-Matt Black\|Stop Tech Rotors\|TWM Shifter\|3M Tint\|Black Fangs\|Black Rear Valance\|JDM Fog Light\| MY BAND-www.myspace.com/petroleum

03-14-2010, 05:38 PM	#42 (permalink)
kevr6 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: N.W. Atlanta Posts: 1,515 Drives: '09 Graphite 370Z 6M Rep Power: 666	They look great!! Well done! Hope you get the finish issue handled ok! __________________ *Beware...* Daily Sliding In My ZLED!

03-14-2010, 06:57 PM	#43 (permalink)
NA&CH Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Nipples Florida Posts: 298 Drives: Looking for PW 370 Rep Power: 290	well they look very nice mounted. Love that style rim. Sorry to hear about the finish... Chris

03-14-2010, 08:23 PM	#44 (permalink)
vortrex Base Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: SF, CA Posts: 199 Drives: '09 370z 6spd Rep Power: 15	I think PG is a very hard color to match wheels to. they definitely look too blue in those higher res pics. I think matte black is the way to go with PG. this might work out well for you, get them all redone for no charge in a new color. I've had motorcycle wheels and frames powdercoated and it's virtually indestructible. my stuff was prepped with a media blast. I guess mike says it doesn't matter, but I surely would feel better about the new finish biting into clean metal.

03-14-2010, 08:37 PM	#45 (permalink)
Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2185	prep is improtant, but more for cleanliness. All things considered, I still prefer freshly blasted wheels myself, but most people don't want to pay the extra 40 per wheel that I have to pay the blasting shop, so I usually don't do that. I actually wetsand the original finish with a sanding block and soapy water to prep them. There is a chance the others may do it to. Since they are using a conveyer system, it seems like it would be logical that they all went into the oven one after another and cured for the same amount of time. They need to cure for a minimum of 20 minutes after the metal comes up to the 400 degree temperature, so for a wheel, its typically about an hour and a half that I have them in the oven. 2sl0w likes this. __________________ NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968

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