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People say (obviously) that forged wheels are far superior to 2p wheeels on track, for obvious reasons I presume, but my question is : Are 2p rims too 'weak' for

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Old 08-11-2019, 07:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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People say (obviously) that forged wheels are far superior to 2p wheeels on track, for obvious reasons I presume, but my question is :

Are 2p rims too 'weak' for track?

I am in the market for rims atm, and am looking at

work T7R 2P 19x9.5 Front
work T7R 2P 19x10.5 Rear

atm, and I DD the car and sometimes go to track or a early morning mountain runs, and was wondering if I should go with these rims.

This is my first time buying rims and I need to be able to make a good decision because I would need to ship it to Korea as there are not that many good rims here , so it needs to fit perfectly and look the way I want.
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They'll be fine. Heavy, but fine.
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Ever watch any drift event? There are cars rocking 2P and 3P work and SSR wheels. As long as they're from a quality manufacturer they're not gonna shatter or anything

Now, whether this is ideal or not for maximum performance . . . nope. These types of wheels are typically heavier

also

if this is your first set of wheels, you also need to consider:

Width
offset
tire specs
height
suspension mods
fender mods

if you do not consider the full set up, you will quickly be in the market for your SECOND set of wheels

or just have a whack looking car

don't spend a penny on any wheels until you've thoroughly researched wheel fitment

i bet these are cheaper, lighter, and stronger than what you're looking at:
Volk TE37 19x9.5 +22 19x19x10.5 +12

actually, i know they are
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Ever watch any drift event? There are cars rocking 2P and 3P work and SSR wheels. As long as they're from a quality manufacturer they're not gonna shatter or anything

Now, whether this is ideal or not for maximum performance . . . nope. These types of wheels are typically heavier

also

if this is your first set of wheels, you also need to consider:

Width
offset
tire specs
height
suspension mods
fender mods

if you do not consider the full set up, you will quickly be in the market for your SECOND set of wheels

or just have a whack looking car

don't spend a penny on any wheels until you've thoroughly researched wheel fitment

i bet these are cheaper, lighter, and stronger than what you're looking at:
Volk TE37 19x9.5 +22 19x19x10.5 +12

actually, i know they are
these are nice too but I want that aluminum rim around the spoke, looks sexy imo. I'm lowered to MAX HEIGHT on BC Racing Coilovers, and stock all around and I heard 19 x 9.5, 19 x 10.5 fit, but in fitment industries' homepage it states it's not recommended for the rear.. a little confused but isn't the stock rims 18x9.5 , 18 x 10.5?
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Base rims are 18x8 front 18x9 rear. Sport rims are 19x9 front 19x10 rear. Nismo rims are 19x9.5 front 19x10.5 rear.
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these are nice too but I want that aluminum rim around the spoke, looks sexy imo. I'm lowered to MAX HEIGHT on BC Racing Coilovers, and stock all around and I heard 19 x 9.5, 19 x 10.5 fit, but in fitment industries' homepage it states it's not recommended for the rear.. a little confused but isn't the stock rims 18x9.5 , 18 x 10.5?
I took a look at this fitment industries website and it's the most worthless piece of crap ever. It's based on a buncha manufacturers "recommended" specs which are ultra conservative. Definitely maybe by someone who has no clue about the actual platform itself.

10.5 is probably the minimum anyone should run in the back of a Z, its what the stock Nismo has.

Things to consider before buying wheels:

18's will have the best functionality because there are lots of tire choices at better prices and the least weight; however, they look stupid on a Z because they're so small. Brake clearance may also be an issue, but thats true of all diameters as face design plays the biggest role there

20's look the best but tires are expensive, wheels are expensive, and they're gonna be the heaviest.

19's can be a good compromise but tires still aren't cheap.


Everyone that tracks recommends as much tire in front because the Z suffers from some understeer. The preferred setup is 18x10.5 or 18x11, around +15 or so at all four corners, with 285 or 275 tires square. If you push significantly more power than stock (i.e. turbo), then you'll need more rear tire

To fit a wheel/tire like that in front is going to require camber adjustment and potentially fender mods. That means getting the SPL Front upper Control arm which provides camber/caster adjustment (factory has zero adjustment). The rear arms are needed to dial in your alignment in the rear as well

A common street setup is:
19x9.5 +22, 265/35r19
19x10.5 +12, 305/30r19

Most good wheels come in similar spec, should not rub, should not require custom alignment (although that is always the proper way to do it)
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I took a look at this fitment industries website and it's the most worthless piece of crap ever. It's based on a buncha manufacturers "recommended" specs which are ultra conservative. Definitely maybe by someone who has no clue about the actual platform itself.

10.5 is probably the minimum anyone should run in the back of a Z, its what the stock Nismo has.

Things to consider before buying wheels:

18's will have the best functionality because there are lots of tire choices at better prices and the least weight; however, they look stupid on a Z because they're so small. Brake clearance may also be an issue, but thats true of all diameters as face design plays the biggest role there

20's look the best but tires are expensive, wheels are expensive, and they're gonna be the heaviest.

19's can be a good compromise but tires still aren't cheap.


Everyone that tracks recommends as much tire in front because the Z suffers from some understeer. The preferred setup is 18x10.5 or 18x11, around +15 or so at all four corners, with 285 or 275 tires square. If you push significantly more power than stock (i.e. turbo), then you'll need more rear tire

To fit a wheel/tire like that in front is going to require camber adjustment and potentially fender mods. That means getting the SPL Front upper Control arm which provides camber/caster adjustment (factory has zero adjustment). The rear arms are needed to dial in your alignment in the rear as well

A common street setup is:
19x9.5 +22, 265/35r19
19x10.5 +12, 305/30r19

Most good wheels come in similar spec, should not rub, should not require custom alignment (although that is always the proper way to do it)
Sweet, thnks for the advice, well appreciated. The roads here in korea have lots of bumps, speed bumps are illegally high, and drivers drive like they are about to kill you, and it's also illegal for the wheel to 'stick out'

19x9.5 +22, 265/35r19
19x10.5 +12, 305/30r19

seems pretty good for a stock 370z , lowered slightly on coilovers. but atm I'm too low that my exhaust has too many scrapes , would 19's increase overall ride height? I presume it would slightly.. (I'm pretty new to wheels so thnks for helping out)
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The diameter of the wheel doesn't determine height - the tire does

And thicker tires are not the right way to raise a car - your actual suspension is


If your exhaust is scraping you have a **** exhaust. Motordyne and fast intentions have the lowest point equal to the lowest part of the frame

Fix your exhaust before picking whack tire specs that have other effects on your car
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The diameter of the wheel doesn't determine height - the tire does

And thicker tires are not the right way to raise a car - your actual suspension is


If your exhaust is scraping you have a **** exhaust. Motordyne and fast intentions have the lowest point equal to the lowest part of the frame

Fix your exhaust before picking whack tire specs that have other effects on your car
yeah I thought so.. but the lowest part of the frame also scrapes, the roads are not that "flat" here, there are a lot of warped areas, even in highways, so the curvature in the road, especially when the suspension is compressed after bouncing, scrapes the exhaust. The stock exhaust was also scraped but I don't know if I can give up on these coilovers. I have about an iphone x's height from the lowest point
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