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When I drive in the rain with my PSSs , its like I am on dry pavement, with turns, lane changes, etc. However, just remember that the PSSs are a

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Old 05-18-2015, 12:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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When I drive in the rain with my PSSs , its like I am on dry pavement, with turns, lane changes, etc.

However, just remember that the PSSs are a SUMMER tire and if they get really cold they will suck. Any summer tire will also be worthless in the snow. The 370 Z is like the worst car in the snow I have ever had, including my 350Z and my MKIV Supra.
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I've done quite a bit of research on summer tires, anticipating I'll need to replace the OE original tires soon. I like to read Tire Rack's reviews. They do thorough evaluations of traction (dry and wet), noise, etc. Also consider price and wear ratings.

I've already decided on Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires when I'm ready to buy. For what it's worth, I also have a friend who races regularly, including Car and Driver One Lap (on road + circuit driving), and he strongly recommended the Michelin PSS which he has run on a BMW M3. Check out the Tire Rack review here:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=174
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I've done quite a bit of research on summer tires, anticipating I'll need to replace the OE original tires soon. I like to read Tire Rack's reviews. They do thorough evaluations of traction (dry and wet), noise, etc. Also consider price and wear ratings.

I've already decided on Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires when I'm ready to buy. For what it's worth, I also have a friend who races regularly, including Car and Driver One Lap (on road + circuit driving), and he strongly recommended the Michelin PSS which he has run on a BMW M3. Check out the Tire Rack review here:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=174
What I see from that graphic is a marginal improvement in mixed performance
7.64 for the S-04
7.84 for the PSS

Compared to a substantial price difference

$782.44 for a set of S-04
$1121.96 for a set of the PSS
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That is true, but the total spread on the scores is 7.47 to 7.84. It seems their scale is too compressed. If you look back at their summer tire comparisons over the past 3 years, the Michelin has beaten every tire, every year. I certainly can see your point regarding cost though... maybe not worth the extra money.

One other point, the Michelin has a tread wear rating of 300 vs. 280 on the Bridgestone. Not a big difference, but the Michelin should last a bit longer. Anyways, both good tires.
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That is true, but the total spread on the scores is 7.47 to 7.84. It seems their scale is too compressed. If you look back at their summer tire comparisons over the past 3 years, the Michelin has beaten every tire, every year. I certainly can see your point regarding cost though... maybe not worth the extra money.

One other point, the Michelin has a tread wear rating of 300 vs. 280 on the Bridgestone. Not a big difference, but the Michelin should last a bit longer. Anyways, both good tires.
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That is true, but the total spread on the scores is 7.47 to 7.84. It seems their scale is too compressed. If you look back at their summer tire comparisons over the past 3 years, the Michelin has beaten every tire, every year. I certainly can see your point regarding cost though... maybe not worth the extra money.

One other point, the Michelin has a tread wear rating of 300 vs. 280 on the Bridgestone. Not a big difference, but the Michelin should last a bit longer. Anyways, both good tires.
Yeh, it's a cost vs performance issue. My suspicion is that 99% of the Z owners can't drive their car well enough to even begin to take advantage of the marginal performance advantage of the PSS over the S-04.

OTOH, if we're talking about tread wear, the tread life implies real dollars, so if the PSS lasted twice as long as the S-04 (for example), they'd be a bargain despite the fact that a set of four is $340 more expensive. With a tread wear rating of 300 compared to 280 however....not even close.
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That is true, but the total spread on the scores is 7.47 to 7.84. It seems their scale is too compressed. If you look back at their summer tire comparisons over the past 3 years, the Michelin has beaten every tire, every year. I certainly can see your point regarding cost though... maybe not worth the extra money.

One other point, the Michelin has a tread wear rating of 300 vs. 280 on the Bridgestone. Not a big difference, but the Michelin should last a bit longer. Anyways, both good tires.
Just do you know treadwear is a number given by the manufacturer and there is no "standard" so it's hard to compare those numbers especially if they're that close. And Michelin is usually top with tirerack but in my own conspiracy I think they give tirerack kick back as well. Don't get me wrong I think the ps2 is the best daily tire out there for performance but just a thought
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