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Originally Posted by elperuano What about tuning from a tuner? How many tuners out there do dyno-tuning with ECUtek? I see a lot of e-tunes. Only 1 dyno tune Should

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Old 06-07-2013, 03:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What about tuning from a tuner? How many tuners out there do dyno-tuning with ECUtek? I see a lot of e-tunes. Only 1 dyno tune

Should clarify. How many tuners out there do dyno-tuning with ECUtek ON the VQ platform?
Seems like a lot of etunes vs dynos.
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Old 06-07-2013, 04:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Ok. Jus not making sense. U want people to jump into what? Something that's not even finished yet?? VVEL hasn't been tuned with ECUtek. I believe if u search you'll see it wasn't even worth it. Since u got ECUtek why didnt u try the VVEL tuning with them?

I can get why ur loyal to them but ur argument just sounds confusing. You want people to take a plunge on an unfinished product (which u clearly stated certain features weren't ready yet). That's just not smart at all.

The answers are pretty much a repeat. Same answer to simple questions over and over.
I'll just wait until everything is actually done. There's no point in asking for a timeframe

Also, how many dyno-tunes are out there? I think just 1.
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What I took from JARblue was this:
The technology is there with ECUTek but people need to actually tune their cars, changing the VVEL.

elperuano - Are you saying that ECUTek should bench mark a Z to show some results? That Would be cool if they did but they shouldn't be obligated.



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What I took from JARblue was this:
The technology is there with ECUTek but people need to actually tune their cars, changing the VVEL.

elperuano - Are you saying that ECUTek should bench mark a Z to show some results? That Would be cool if they did but they shouldn't be obligated.
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What I took from JARblue was this:
The technology is there with ECUTek but people need to actually tune their cars, changing the VVEL.

elperuano - Are you saying that ECUTek should bench mark a Z to show some results? That Would be cool if they did.
That's to be expected from any new tuning software, but this is normal. Say "Hey, we're looking to test some software on Z's, for anyone interested, an awesome discount!". And that's all you'd need. But that's not what this thread, and any press we've been given says...


That's exactly what they could do. Have the Same Z done by the Same tuner, on the Same Dyno tuned with Uprev, document the improvements. Then reflash it with ECUTek, and tune again. And document the improvements.

Apples to Apples.

Since you're only talking a software change, it could all be done in a day.
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That's exactly what they could do. Have the Same Z done by the Same tuner, on the Same Dyno tuned with Uprev, document the improvements. Then reflash it with ECUTek, and tune again. And document the improvements.

Apples to Apples.

Since you're only talking a software change, it could all be done in a day.
Pay someone to do that and you've solved most all the problems in this thread
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work getting the way of responding, but I will later...

If you people think I am trying to convince you to jump ship from UpRev, then you're simply not reading my posts. I can't do anything about that. I understand the results are underwhelming at this point and that more is warranted before you do such a thing. But the fact of the matter is you guys are impatient, and it's very clear that you aren't going to be satisfied until there is a lot more data out there...
No worries sir, not trying to impact your work performance.

No, I don't think you're trying to convince anything. I think you're standing up as a loyal patron who got a really good deal.

I'm completely patient. I'm not rushing anything, I just don't wanna be told something that isn't true, just like anyone else. If you didn't have your tune through them, I would assume you would be just as hesitant to jump on board an unproven software suite. There's nothing wrong with asking for more proven usage and documented improvements. That's something the community as a whole can benefit from.

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Pay someone to do that and you've solved most all the problems in this thread
Well you threw your name into their hat, why didn't you?

Isn't that the point of Marketing as the vendor?

Tune normally runs say $700
Vendor says they'll give you an awesome discount to do it: 50% off

Vendor is essentially paying you $350 to do it. Problem solved.
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work getting the way of responding, but I will later...

If you people think I am trying to convince you to jump ship from UpRev, then you're simply not reading my posts. I can't do anything about that. I understand the results are underwhelming at this point and that more is warranted before you do such a thing. But the fact of the matter is you guys are impatient, and it's very clear that you aren't going to be satisfied until there is a lot more data out there...
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so, elperuano and xwchrisx are you guys saying that if Ecutek proves that they're a better tuning solution than Uprev, you guys will bend over and get your @... tuned?

seriously guys, you're singing the same tune over and over and over.....
Drop the drama, accept that there's something new and give this some time to evolve. They have proven themselves in the GT-R world, offering better features than other solutions, and improving.
I never heard of boost control, launch control, etc from Uprev. They been playing with VVEL ever since they came out and still playing in beta mode.
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so, elperuano and xwchrisx are you guys saying that if Ecutek proves that they're a better tuning solution than Uprev, you guys will bend over and get your @... tuned?

seriously guys, you're singing the same tune over and over and over.....
Drop the drama, accept that there's something new and give this some time to evolve. They have proven themselves in the GT-R world, offering better features than other solutions, and improving.
I never heard of boost control, launch control, etc from Uprev. They been playing with VVEL ever since they came out and still playing in beta mode.
Umm, actually I think I've said that several times lol If ECUTek proves to be a better solution for tuning, I will happily purchase a license from them? As would anyone else.

If asking a vendor to support claims is drama that should be dropped. Then you'll be stuck with inferior products that never reach full potential because there's no push to improve. If you're happy with mediocre then good on you, but I want the best.

I think that alone says the level of your involvement in this discussion. That's all well and good that they have tuned OTHER VEHICLES, but that doesn't say anything about OUR platform. That builds the reputation of the company yes, but is peanuts when you talk about one ECU vs another. If you think the GT-R and the 370Z are the same car with the same concerns then
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I'm not bending over for anything lol. But I damn sure ain't gonna praise someone who's throwing words around and hasn't proved anything yet. I'm not being anyone guinea pig to test this product. I'm pushing almost max hp/tq on my TT set-up. I have no wiggle room to play with to "try" and see if it works. I would never go with anything unproven. Especially at this stage of the game $$$$
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IMHO I really don't see this debate necessarily being about which product is superior to the other, but about how two people assess risk. Both are looking at facts and making assumptions that support their decision on a which product they want to purchase or put their support behind. Many tech companies today sale products based on platform that has a certain suite of capabilities, but then market what the future possibilities will be. For some jumping in quickly with what they know the product is capable of doing and the hope of the other possibilities is enough, but many others need more data and a track record before they bite. Either way works! The beauty of it all is that we all can to listen and learn as long as we can separate ourselves from the emotion. Just my two cents.
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Hotrodz nailed it.

Just wanna clarify I will be switching once ECUtek is fully complete and when my tuner is fully confident with it.
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I looked at the adjustable parameters here:
EcuTek - Tuneable Parameters

And didn't see mention of being able to adjust when the fan comes on or line pressures (I have a 7AT). Are these features included?
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