Technosquare tune

mannyz · 07-23-2009, 04:59 PM

Well now that you just said the price lol, the reason I find expensive the regular reflash with everything stock is because yes they did have to do a lot of test and programing and changing on the first car to get the gain they did. But Im a computer guy, I kow that after that setting is done, they just save that into their computers or even a flash drive. THat is why they are able to offer you the reflash, just send the ECU, they upload the basic setting, and you get your gain.

So in other words, they already did all the work and that labor got already paid off, $550 for an upload to the computer, nah, something that will take them 10mins. Now if my car is there, and they have to dyno it, change, dyno, change, etc then I understand they need to be paid for the labor.

But that is my opinion, it doesnt mean Im right

370Zilla · 07-23-2009, 09:57 PM

My guess would be that there is also some changes done to the vvel on the Nismo.

mannyz · 07-23-2009, 10:25 PM

The thing is that Nissan doesnt say anything, if they have different head, or diff cam, etc, is just exactly the same settings.

Supergoji · 07-23-2009, 11:59 PM

the only things that are different power wise is the ECU tune and the exhaust.

just wait for an agressive ecu tune and cams and people will be making plenty of power.

pretty much the same as much as a evo X, 335i, or a bolt on 300zx twin turbo

bboypuertoroc · 07-24-2009, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Supergoji

just wait for an agressive ecu tune and cams and people will be making plenty of power.

pretty much the same as much as a evo X, 335i, or a bolt on 300zx twin turbo

Wrong. You can't compare mods when you're talking three boosted cars and one NA car.

Good luck with the cam thing...

CBRich · 07-24-2009, 07:29 AM

Again with the agressive cams eh? Maybe on the exhaust side . . .

bboypuertoroc · 07-24-2009, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBRich

Again with the agressive cams eh? Maybe on the exhaust side . . .

mannyz · 07-25-2009, 10:06 PM

Will you please enlight us, BBOY since you seems to be so smart and rude and the same time. Because like you said right now the Evo been boosted from factory and the Z been NA keeps the battle, so what make u think that with a Ecu Tune and some cams, wont do it?

Modshack · 07-26-2009, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mannyz

Will you please enlight us, BBOY since you seems to be so smart and rude and the same time. Because like you said right now the Evo been boosted from factory and the Z been NA keeps the battle, so what make u think that with a Ecu Tune and some cams, wont do it?

Ummmm...BBoy is correct. It is Very easy to get BIG gains out of Boosted cars with a tune... a simple 3 psi boost is good for 15-20 hp alone on a Turbo car. Many can add 30-40hp+ with an aggressive tune. The tune on my Audi TT took it from 225 to 265 with no issues whatsoever. It is MUCH harder to get gains out of a N/A engine. 10-15 hp Max is about it..

RCZ · 07-26-2009, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

Ummmm...BBoy is correct. It is Very easy to get BIG gains out of Boosted cars with a tune... a simple 3 psi boost is good for 15-20 hp alone on a Turbo car. Many can add 30-40hp+ with an aggressive tune. The tune on my Audi TT took it from 225 to 265 with no issues whatsoever. It is MUCH harder to get gains out of a N/A engine. 10-15 hp Max is about it..

Yup and frankly... man up, he wasn't being rude or offensive.

Also what CBRich said...VVEL = no traditional cam swaps. I'm staying out of the ensuing drama.

sidewayz34 · 07-26-2009, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

Yup and frankly... man up, he wasn't being rude or offensive.

Also what CBRich said...VVEL = no traditional cam swaps. I'm staying out of the ensuing drama.

Lmao

CBRich · 07-26-2009, 03:41 PM

Manny, one of the reasons you're getting slammed a bit is because there is no traditional intake cam on the 370Z.

mannyz · 07-26-2009, 08:12 PM

I fine making fun of another member because of his lack of knowledge instead of doing what Modshack did, is rude. Cause if a member can't come here and ask the stupid question because his gona be slap in the face, what good is the forum for.

By the way Im not the one who requested hte cams

THe comparison I try to make which I dont like from some Evo guys is, they always like to compare their cars to NA cars, and thats like apple to oranges. Yes the Evo is already bossted and modded from factory where an NA car is not, but they make it look like "your never be like an Evo cause our is already modded" my answer to that is "lets get both cars modded the same and then we talk" Even get an AWD to the Z (i know is not possible, but using it as comparison)

Is kinda they make it sound like, No matter what you do to your car, youll never get close to an Evo. Which I know is a very wrong assumption.

But not hating, here just giving my Opinion

1slow370 · 08-22-2009, 09:32 AM

Some Equations

NISMO Catback + Stock car = more power

Tune + Stock car = more power

more power + more power = 2(more power)

besides even if you do both you'll only have about 280-290 at the wheels stop worrying about 350hp

Oh and some more Equations

Stillen Exhaust > nismo

stillen Gen3 > all

GTM TT > 400hp at wheels > 370z with $3500 of bolt ons + 100shot of N2O

NIZMOZ · 08-24-2009, 10:27 AM

Funny. Lack of knowledge? He knows more than you it seems.

Oh btw, take a spelling class.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mannyz

I fine making fun of another member because of his lack of knowledge instead of doing what Modshack did, is rude. Cause if a member can't come here and ask the stupid question because his gona be slap in the face, what good is the forum for.

By the way Im not the one who requested hte cams

THe comparison I try to make which I dont like from some Evo guys is, they always like to compare their cars to NA cars, and thats like apple to oranges. Yes the Evo is already bossted and modded from factory where an NA car is not, but they make it look like "your never be like an Evo cause our is already modded" my answer to that is "lets get both cars modded the same and then we talk" Even get an AWD to the Z (i know is not possible, but using it as comparison)

Is kinda they make it sound like, No matter what you do to your car, youll never get close to an Evo. Which I know is a very wrong assumption.

But not hating, here just giving my Opinion

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07-23-2009, 04:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
mannyz Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 354 Drives: a car Rep Power: 280	Well now that you just said the price lol, the reason I find expensive the regular reflash with everything stock is because yes they did have to do a lot of test and programing and changing on the first car to get the gain they did. But Im a computer guy, I kow that after that setting is done, they just save that into their computers or even a flash drive. THat is why they are able to offer you the reflash, just send the ECU, they upload the basic setting, and you get your gain. So in other words, they already did all the work and that labor got already paid off, $550 for an upload to the computer, nah, something that will take them 10mins. Now if my car is there, and they have to dyno it, change, dyno, change, etc then I understand they need to be paid for the labor. But that is my opinion, it doesnt mean Im right

07-23-2009, 09:57 PM	#2 (permalink)
370Zilla Base Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Gainesville, Fl Posts: 41 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 17	My guess would be that there is also some changes done to the vvel on the Nismo.

07-23-2009, 10:25 PM	#3 (permalink)
mannyz Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 354 Drives: a car Rep Power: 280	The thing is that Nissan doesnt say anything, if they have different head, or diff cam, etc, is just exactly the same settings.

07-23-2009, 11:59 PM	#4 (permalink)
Supergoji Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Westchester NY Age: 36 Posts: 311 Drives: Z32tt / Supra tt Rep Power: 257	the only things that are different power wise is the ECU tune and the exhaust. just wait for an agressive ecu tune and cams and people will be making plenty of power. pretty much the same as much as a evo X, 335i, or a bolt on 300zx twin turbo

07-24-2009, 07:29 AM	#6 (permalink)
CBRich A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,464 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 545	Again with the agressive cams eh? Maybe on the exhaust side . . .

07-25-2009, 10:06 PM	#8 (permalink)
mannyz Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 354 Drives: a car Rep Power: 280	Will you please enlight us, BBOY since you seems to be so smart and rude and the same time. Because like you said right now the Evo been boosted from factory and the Z been NA keeps the battle, so what make u think that with a Ecu Tune and some cams, wont do it?

07-26-2009, 03:41 PM	#12 (permalink)
CBRich A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,464 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 545	Manny, one of the reasons you're getting slammed a bit is because there is no traditional intake cam on the 370Z.

07-26-2009, 08:12 PM	#13 (permalink)
mannyz Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 354 Drives: a car Rep Power: 280	I fine making fun of another member because of his lack of knowledge instead of doing what Modshack did, is rude. Cause if a member can't come here and ask the stupid question because his gona be slap in the face, what good is the forum for. By the way Im not the one who requested hte cams THe comparison I try to make which I dont like from some Evo guys is, they always like to compare their cars to NA cars, and thats like apple to oranges. Yes the Evo is already bossted and modded from factory where an NA car is not, but they make it look like "your never be like an Evo cause our is already modded" my answer to that is "lets get both cars modded the same and then we talk" Even get an AWD to the Z (i know is not possible, but using it as comparison) Is kinda they make it sound like, No matter what you do to your car, youll never get close to an Evo. Which I know is a very wrong assumption. But not hating, here just giving my Opinion

08-22-2009, 09:32 AM	#14 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	Some Equations NISMO Catback + Stock car = more power Tune + Stock car = more power more power + more power = 2(more power) besides even if you do both you'll only have about 280-290 at the wheels stop worrying about 350hp Oh and some more Equations Stillen Exhaust > nismo stillen Gen3 > all GTM TT > 400hp at wheels > 370z with $3500 of bolt ons + 100shot of N2O