best way to add 50hp?

anthonyy · 08-14-2012, 06:02 PM

:kickingdeadhorse:

Zoren 370 · 08-14-2012, 06:36 PM

How about reducing the weight of the driver? Lets say 50lbs? Would that bring in more whP?
Damn Michelin tires on my belly just wont wanna wear out!

wstar · 08-14-2012, 08:51 PM

Given the car is in the very rough ballpark of 1:10 hp:weight like most reasonable street sport cars, you'd have to drop 500lbs to make up 50hp

Zoren 370 · 08-15-2012, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wstar

Given the car is in the very rough ballpark of 1:10 hp:weight like most reasonable street sport cars, you'd have to drop 500lbs to make up 50hp

Damn!!! 500Lbs??? I have to cut my NUT Cracker in achieving that HP.
Ok back to topic.
Can uprev give you the 50hp plus bolt ONs with lightweight pulley? Fair enough?

wstar · 08-15-2012, 08:06 AM

Where did the 50hp number come from anyways? :P

ANMVQ · 08-15-2012, 08:24 AM

Again intake ,Exhaust tune= 300 WHP Stock is about 260ish, 40 WHP is a lot plus the tuine makes the car a lot more fun to drive, Throttle respones is greatly improved, All that can be had for less tha $1500 just look around.

NYBladeZ · 08-15-2012, 09:19 AM

$1500 is a bit on the low side, to achieve maximum gains he will need more than just a catback but HFC (which cost more), test pipes or long tube headers (most expensive most gains most noise). You're looking closer to $2000 plus install. I recommend getting a quality installer or it will cost you more in the long run.

If you simply want a little more life in your car best bang for the buck mod is either more aggressive gearing or a set of HFC's/test pipes.

Weight loss is usually overlooked but makes a huge difference, I'd be wary about gutting everything from the trunk though, it will make the car more tail happy.

ANMVQ · 08-16-2012, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by NYBladeZ

$1500 is a bit on the low side, to achieve maximum gains he will need more than just a catback but HFC (which cost more), test pipes or long tube headers (most expensive most gains most noise). You're looking closer to $2000 plus install. I recommend getting a quality installer or it will cost you more in the long run.

If you simply want a little more life in your car best bang for the buck mod is either more aggressive gearing or a set of HFC's/test pipes.

Weight loss is usually overlooked but makes a huge difference, I'd be wary about gutting everything from the trunk though, it will make the car more tail happy.

Was only saying 1500 cause I did all of mine for that, 255 WHP ended with 298 WHP ( 43 WHP) An NO HFC's ,TP's or headers.

Intake Gen 3's Catback (SIG) and Tune. Also on a atuo he would see a little more if he's a manual.

glockman · 11-17-2012, 09:05 PM

has anybody installed a chip in there Z or know if they work

NickTurnon · 11-17-2012, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by glockman

has anybody installed a chip in there Z or know if they work

There aren't any "Chips" for our cars..

Its a "tune".. Cable goes into ECU, tuner modifies ECU settings, Tuner dyno's the car, sets up maps, unplugs cable and .....WAHLA! A tune

Z_ealot · 11-18-2012, 01:46 AM

plus i think we've debunked the theory that you cant get 50whp more out of this engine from bolt ons just recently

luvboost · 12-12-2012, 03:10 PM

be an optimist... full exhaust, intake, tune on a civic is like 8whp so it could be way worse for spending the money haha

realistically though 40-50whp on bolt ons for an NA car is not bad either way. Anything further is gonna require forcing the air in which if i recall the compression being 11:1 dispite the beefier build of the VQ37 you're gonna be limited on boost with the stock motor... so then you're looking into a motor build, downtime, Dollazzz, not a good combination for a DD. Not saying turbo is bad because turbo is the ultimate replacement for displacement but these cars seemd like they were designed to stay NA.

More importantly has anyone ran E85 through these motors with unretarted timing?

08-14-2012, 08:51 PM	#3 (permalink)
wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3595	Given the car is in the very rough ballpark of 1:10 hp:weight like most reasonable street sport cars, you'd have to drop 500lbs to make up 50hp __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

08-15-2012, 08:06 AM	#5 (permalink)
wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3595	Where did the 50hp number come from anyways? :P __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

08-15-2012, 08:24 AM	#6 (permalink)
ANMVQ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Framingham MA Posts: 2,732 Drives: 2014 Q50 AWD Rep Power: 20	Again intake ,Exhaust tune= 300 WHP Stock is about 260ish, 40 WHP is a lot plus the tuine makes the car a lot more fun to drive, Throttle respones is greatly improved, All that can be had for less tha $1500 just look around. __________________ 14 Q50 AWD, ARK, ECUTEK (SEB), Takda,

08-15-2012, 09:19 AM	#7 (permalink)
NYBladeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New York Posts: 2,158 Drives: Lotus Exige S Rep Power: 21	$1500 is a bit on the low side, to achieve maximum gains he will need more than just a catback but HFC (which cost more), test pipes or long tube headers (most expensive most gains most noise). You're looking closer to $2000 plus install. I recommend getting a quality installer or it will cost you more in the long run. If you simply want a little more life in your car best bang for the buck mod is either more aggressive gearing or a set of HFC's/test pipes. Weight loss is usually overlooked but makes a huge difference, I'd be wary about gutting everything from the trunk though, it will make the car more tail happy. roy'sz likes this. __________________ 2009 Carbon Fiber/Red 370z aka Trish: Sports Package, Meisterschaft full catback, Fast Intentions Longtube Headers, Injen Long Tube Intakes, UpRev Tune: Sold 2008 Lotus Exige S Club Racer aka Bella, always leaves me smiling

12-12-2012, 03:10 PM	#12 (permalink)
luvboost Base Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Missouri Posts: 65 Drives: 08 Evo MR Rep Power: 15	be an optimist... full exhaust, intake, tune on a civic is like 8whp so it could be way worse for spending the money haha realistically though 40-50whp on bolt ons for an NA car is not bad either way. Anything further is gonna require forcing the air in which if i recall the compression being 11:1 dispite the beefier build of the VQ37 you're gonna be limited on boost with the stock motor... so then you're looking into a motor build, downtime, Dollazzz, not a good combination for a DD. Not saying turbo is bad because turbo is the ultimate replacement for displacement but these cars seemd like they were designed to stay NA. More importantly has anyone ran E85 through these motors with unretarted timing? Last edited by luvboost; 12-12-2012 at 03:19 PM.

08-14-2012, 06:02 PM	#1 (permalink)
anthonyy A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Los Gatos, CA Posts: 1,027 Drives: Lexus CT Rep Power: 17	:kickingdeadhorse:

08-14-2012, 06:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
Zoren 370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: FL Posts: 11,018 Drives: 11 Nissan 370 M6 Rep Power: 1913654	How about reducing the weight of the driver? Lets say 50lbs? Would that bring in more whP? Damn Michelin tires on my belly just wont wanna wear out!

11-17-2012, 09:05 PM	#9 (permalink)
glockman Base Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: perry ohio Posts: 40 Drives: 2010 370Z roadster Rep Power: 13	has anybody installed a chip in there Z or know if they work

11-18-2012, 01:46 AM	#11 (permalink)
Z_ealot A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 2,045 Drives: 09 370Z Touring/Sprt Rep Power: 10092	plus i think we've debunked the theory that you cant get 50whp more out of this engine from bolt ons just recently

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