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Old 07-29-2009, 04:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Actually, people who can afford it blowing money on "useless" things (as in, not food or shelter) is a win for the economy. It's better for the economy if people with excess income/cash blow it buying parts and services, which prop up jobs and businesses.

And there's really no definition of what's paying too much for car performance. Compared to the average car consumer who isn't really into this stuff, any money spent upgrading the performance of a car is a "waste".
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Ok back on track. Nice numbers. Has anyone thats made over 320-330rwhp with mods run the 1/4 mile yet???I know Semtex and RCZ and now Phimosis all are in this range.

I know some may not be into the 1/4 but just curious to see if this car can hit or excede 110mph with those mods. This would almost put it on C5 Z06 level 1/4 mile wise. With some suspension mods with this power it should be very close to the C5 Z06 circuit track numbers imho.
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Ok back on track. Nice numbers. Has anyone thats made over 320-330rwhp with mods run the 1/4 mile yet???I know Semtex and RCZ and now Phimosis all are in this range.

I know some may not be into the 1/4 but just curious to see if this car can hit or excede 110mph with those mods. This would almost put it on C5 Z06 level 1/4 mile wise. With some suspension mods with this power it should be very close to the C5 Z06 circuit track numbers imho.
Ditto... I would like to at least hear the thoughts of these guys with 320+ power. Do you feel you Z can hang with a c5 Z06 on a road course? What about an autocross track??

Just curious....
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Ditto... I would like to at least hear the thoughts of these guys with 320+ power. Do you feel you Z can hang with a c5 Z06 on a road course? What about an autocross track??

Just curious....
No chance, really. Bone stock with an average driver, an '02-'04 Z06 runs a 12.5 @ 115 MPH. On the Corvette Forum, the top-10 runs in a bone stock Z06 on the official list (proven, much like the list on the 350Z forum) range from 11.78 to 12.13 at anywhere between 117 to 120 MPH, with the top-6 being in the 11s. They are quick.

As for track/autocross...it was among the fastest cars on a road-course money can buy for its time. Much like in a straight-line, it will take significant modification for a 370Z to perform with a stock Z06. Now throw some simple bolt-ons on the Z06, and it just got even harder.
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And there's really no definition of what's paying too much for car performance....
When you have been doing this stuff for over 38 years you learn quickly what's a good ROI and what isn't as mods can put you out living in the street and broke real fast...

There is a definition or standard that is a defacto agreed upon understanding in the performance mods arena for determining ROI....ands its what I have stated above...$25 to $30 / 1-HP gain....

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When you have been doing this stuff for over 38 years you learn quickly what's a good ROI and what isn't as mods can put you out living in the street and broke real fast...particularly with novice naive beliefs such as yours.

There damn well is a definition or standard that is a defacto agreed upon understanding in the performance mods arena for determining ROI....ands its what I have stated above...$25 to $30 / 1-HP gain....I didn't just pull that number out of my azz you know....
What a piece of work. Do the following facts not compute for you?

1) Amount spent on car is completely unrelated to, and says nothing about, one's financial situation. I make a damn good living, and no amount of 370Z modding is going to put me "out living on the street and broke real fast". Perhaps for someone who works at McDonalds, even a hobby of painting plastic model planes once a month could do that, but that's neither here nor there. The point is, different people can afford different levels of spending on hobby stuff, and you're not the arbiter of what makes financial sense for anyone else.

2) A "dollars per horsepower" figure is senseless. Think of the extremes. A very small, fast, light car might weigh 1,800 lbs and have a 200hp engine. A 20hp bump in that car is worth a lot more (performance-wise) than a 20hp bump to a 4,500 lbs car that has a 400hp engine. Therefore there is no universal performance value for "20hp", it varies by car. Further than that, there is no universal standard for how much a unit of horsepower costs. Some cars are more expensive to mod. Some methods of modding are more expensive than others, because you're looking for other secondary effects (like throttle response and handling issues and lighter weight methods of adding the same power). Think about the case of a titanium exhaust system. Same power gains as a steel one, costs 3-4x more money for the same gains. Worth it to some, not to others.

I'm sorry if my "novice naive beliefs" offend you. I think your statements make no rational sense.
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