How to find out if your car is tuned?

StanceZ37 · 04-14-2015, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DOOMMONKEY777

your cruise control does not work because the tuner turned off ur ETC(electronic throttle control) due to this the actual cruse control cannot set ur throttle by map, cuz its OFF. Although ur probably asking "well if its OFF how do i still press gas and drive?" well the ETC turns off the map not the actual throttle, the throttle it self is now 0-100% depends on how far u press where be4 it was nurfed like -100 to 34,000(-1-92%) as an example.

also the maps r unknown example:

map1 might be regular driving
map2 racing
map3 valet rpm topped @3k rpm
map4 does not start car, could be a map as a secondary anti-theft
map5 stock

these r just speculations, but ppl do this.

so in order to put my cruise control on i would have to go to a pro tuner and have them mess with it?

StanceZ37 · 04-14-2015, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by firulice

So I've been meaning to check this on my car for awhile and finally did today when I got home, in neutral in the garage. Bought the car last december. I tried the ecuteck instructions first, nothing. Then the uprev instructions and it blinks back. Cruise control blinks back how many times I clicked cancel so I'm assuming I'm tuned with uprev. Cruise control has worked fine. Now I'm worried because I don't know what map I was in and don't want to put it into a map that might hurt something. Do I have anything to worry about? From researching it looks like the most common maping is:

1: Tuned Map for 91 Octane
2: Tuned Map for Higher Octane
3: Valet
4: Anti-Theft
5: Factory Maps

Is there a way to verify if this is my setup? What else should I know? Also I bought the car in Florida and brought it to utah, would the tune not be as good now? I've been very happy with the power and performance of the car, hope I don't f that up now lol. Thoughts?

Im in the same situation you are in.

Chuck33079 · 04-14-2015, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by firulice

So I've been meaning to check this on my car for awhile and finally did today when I got home, in neutral in the garage. Bought the car last december. I tried the ecuteck instructions first, nothing. Then the uprev instructions and it blinks back. Cruise control blinks back how many times I clicked cancel so I'm assuming I'm tuned with uprev. Cruise control has worked fine. Now I'm worried because I don't know what map I was in and don't want to put it into a map that might hurt something. Do I have anything to worry about? From researching it looks like the most common maping is:

1: Tuned Map for 91 Octane

2: Tuned Map for Higher Octane

3: Valet

4: Anti-Theft

5: Factory Maps

Is there a way to verify if this is my setup? What else should I know? Also I bought the car in Florida and brought it to utah, would the tune not be as good now? I've been very happy with the power and performance of the car, hope I don't f that up now lol. Thoughts?

I would be very concerned. Florida has 93 octane and it's at sea level. You're at altitude on 91. You've got to be running lean. Go make a pull on a dyno and see what the sniffer says your AFR is.

firulice · 04-14-2015, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

I would be very concerned. Florida has 93 octane and it's at sea level. You're at altitude on 91. You've got to be running lean. Go make a pull on a dyno and see what the sniffer says your AFR is.

The higher the altitude the lower octane required. I'm at over 5300ft and 91 should be fine here. I will get it to a dyno soon though and see what each Map looks like a determine if I need a re-tune

firulice · 04-14-2015, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by StanceZ37

Im in the same situation you are in.

Funny cause we have the same car. Talked to uprev today and they said either buy a cable from them with a map or go to a pro tuner...license is there so only dyno time/tune would be an expense. pretty cool. I haven't driven again yet as the weather is bad today and tomorrow. I think I'll try the 3 Maps and see if I can tell any diference. What are you going to do?

TopgunZ · 04-14-2015, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

I would be very concerned. Florida has 93 octane and it's at sea level. You're at altitude on 91. You've got to be running lean. Go make a pull on a dyno and see what the sniffer says your AFR is.

Altitude has less air. Cars pop rich up here.

firulice · 04-14-2015, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TopgunZ

Altitude has less air. Cars pop rich up here.

Yup we're about the same altitude... it was 75 degrees today and now it's snowing outside right now ha ha. Good times

StanceZ37 · 04-15-2015, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by firulice

Funny cause we have the same car. Talked to uprev today and they said either buy a cable from them with a map or go to a pro tuner...license is there so only dyno time/tune would be an expense. pretty cool. I haven't driven again yet as the weather is bad today and tomorrow. I think I'll try the 3 Maps and see if I can tell any diference. What are you going to do?

I was thinking of calling a local uprev pro tuner and see what he suggested. I was thinking of getting the cable and just have them dyno/re tune. i live in Massachusetts and i bought the car from an auction in Dallas Texas. Your lucky you could figure out what 2 of your maps were, i don't have a valet or an anti theft map... so im kinda screwed.

firulice · 04-15-2015, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by StanceZ37

I was thinking of calling a local uprev pro tuner and see what he suggested. I was thinking of getting the cable and just have them dyno/re tune. i live in Massachusetts and i bought the car from an auction in Dallas Texas. Your lucky you could figure out what 2 of your maps were, i don't have a valet or an anti theft map... so im kinda screwed.

So you have 5 maps but no valet or ani-theft? That sucks. Did you just guess and keep driving? Notice any difference? I haven't driven mine yet. If you are going to a tuner you won't need the cable. Save the money. Guy at uprev said put it in map 1 if you dont know cause thats usually the tuned map and its better than guessing and getting an aggresive map instead. It will be two weeks before I can get to a tuner here as its 3 hours north but I'll let you know what I find out and if I re-tune or not.

StanceZ37 · 04-16-2015, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by firulice

So you have 5 maps but no valet or ani-theft? That sucks. Did you just guess and keep driving? Notice any difference? I haven't driven mine yet. If you are going to a tuner you won't need the cable. Save the money. Guy at uprev said put it in map 1 if you dont know cause thats usually the tuned map and its better than guessing and getting an aggresive map instead. It will be two weeks before I can get to a tuner here as its 3 hours north but I'll let you know what I find out and if I re-tune or not.

it does, i have been driving on map 1 and the car runs fine, like normal i guess. i have yet to call a local tuner.. and the closest one to me is an hour an half away.

Awgd8 · 04-16-2015, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by firulice

So you have 5 maps but no valet or ani-theft? That sucks. Did you just guess and keep driving? Notice any difference? I haven't driven mine yet. If you are going to a tuner you won't need the cable. Save the money. Guy at uprev said put it in map 1 if you dont know cause thats usually the tuned map and its better than guessing and getting an aggresive map instead. It will be two weeks before I can get to a tuner here as its 3 hours north but I'll let you know what I find out and if I re-tune or not.

it is always a good idea to have a Uprev cable in the future specially if you still have a car warranty. If something mechanical or sensor related issue that comes up and Nissan need to hook up their Consult reader to your OBd2 you are screwed! They will see your Tune and deny your warranty claim if it is engine, tranny related issue. Having the cable with you, you can flash the car back to stock as if nothing was Tuned.

Knock on wood, if you have issue with your car how will you going to drive to your tuner? you said it is 3 hours drive? Having a cable with you, you can just flash it in your garage anytime. :

If you no longer have a warranty! i guess it is Ok, but the convinience of flashing your car on your own or when you decided to sell the Uprev, you can pair that license in the cable and sell it.

firulice · 04-16-2015, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Awgd8

it is always a good idea to have a Uprev cable in the future specially if you still have a car warranty. If something mechanical or sensor related issue that comes up and Nissan need to hook up their Consult reader to your OBd2 you are screwed! They will see your Tune and deny your warranty claim if it is engine, tranny related issue. Having the cable with you, you can flash the car back to stock as if nothing was Tuned.

Knock on wood, if you have issue with your car how will you going to drive to your tuner? you said it is 3 hours drive? Having a cable with you, you can just flash it in your garage anytime. :

If you no longer have a warranty! i guess it is Ok, but the convinience of flashing your car on your own or when you decided to sell the Uprev, you can pair that license in the cable and sell it.

Good thinking. I'm new to this for sure. think I'll look for a good deal on a used cable. is the oem flash just something you keep in a file in your computer? Does a program upload it or are you copying and pasting files?

Awgd8 · 04-16-2015, 09:04 PM

firulice, It is a file name back2stock that your tuner will provide you. You need to find out your ECU serial number by calling Infiniti parts dept. and he'll ask for your car's Vin#. He will then give you the ECU serial #

That serial # can be cross reference with the Uprev Matrix. (List of Uprev supported ECU) - If your ECU is on the Uprev Matrix, your tuner can find what file you need to flash your car back to stock. It is like flashing your car with a new tune. Once you flash it back to stock, uprev Cipher will not be able to read your ECU , unless you reflash the car using your latest Etune file.

Yes, you keep that backtostock file like a regular etunes.

firulice · 04-16-2015, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Awgd8

firulice, It is a file name back2stock that your tuner will provide you. You need to find out your ECU serial number by calling Infiniti parts dept. and he'll ask for your car's Vin#. He will then give you the ECU serial #

That serial # can be cross reference with the Uprev Matrix. (List of Uprev supported ECU) - If your ECU is on the Uprev Matrix, your tuner can find what file you need to flash your car back to stock. It is like flashing your car with a new tune. Once you flash it back to stock, uprev Cipher will not be able to read your ECU , unless you reflash the car using your latest Etune file.

Yes, you keep that backtostock file like a regular etunes.

Great thanks for the info. I'm learning a lot. I was just reading the smooth throttle with uprev thread and see you are a major contributer there. What is my best throttle map for the MT?
I think I'm going to buy a tuner cable and work with Seymore after checking my current tune on a dyno

Awgd8 · 04-17-2015, 06:10 AM

Firulice:

I would try MAP # 3 (Awgd8-2) on that list and also the recent one AwGD8-Power.

I believe one member here with MT prefers AWGD8-2 map. Some prefers to just disable ETC(elect. throttle control) in their tune if you are MT. This give them 1:1 pedal/throttle feel- like a cable, but you lose (cruise control, etc)

If AT I would try the same MAP that I posted. One of our members ANMVQ recently tried the Awgd8-power and he said he likes it. Depending on your butt dyno settings, some might not even feel a thing....That is why I always encourage to give me a feed back so I can do it better. Smooth throttle thread is created by wstar and I like to give credit to him since he opened up the possibilites. It just took me a year to figure it out which section of the throttle maps affect what etc.

BTW, Seymore4 is a great tuner and he etune my car 2 years ago. I was lucky enough to grab a used tuner version of the engine managment and after Seymore dialed in my tune, I decided to play around with my throttle settings.
So far I have made 24 etunes file (10 from Seymore4) and the rest are exploring the throttle Maps settings.

04-17-2015, 06:10 AM	#45 (permalink)
Awgd8 Base Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: WI Posts: 165 Drives: 2015 Q40 / 2008 EX35 Rep Power: 11	Firulice: I would try MAP # 3 (Awgd8-2) on that list and also the recent one AwGD8-Power. I believe one member here with MT prefers AWGD8-2 map. Some prefers to just disable ETC(elect. throttle control) in their tune if you are MT. This give them 1:1 pedal/throttle feel- like a cable, but you lose (cruise control, etc) If AT I would try the same MAP that I posted. One of our members ANMVQ recently tried the Awgd8-power and he said he likes it. Depending on your butt dyno settings, some might not even feel a thing....That is why I always encourage to give me a feed back so I can do it better. Smooth throttle thread is created by wstar and I like to give credit to him since he opened up the possibilites. It just took me a year to figure it out which section of the throttle maps affect what etc. BTW, Seymore4 is a great tuner and he etune my car 2 years ago. I was lucky enough to grab a used tuner version of the engine managment and after Seymore dialed in my tune, I decided to play around with my throttle settings. So far I have made 24 etunes file (10 from Seymore4) and the rest are exploring the throttle Maps settings. Last edited by Awgd8; 04-17-2015 at 10:22 AM.

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04-16-2015, 09:04 PM	#43 (permalink)
Awgd8 Base Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: WI Posts: 165 Drives: 2015 Q40 / 2008 EX35 Rep Power: 11	firulice, It is a file name back2stock that your tuner will provide you. You need to find out your ECU serial number by calling Infiniti parts dept. and he'll ask for your car's Vin#. He will then give you the ECU serial # That serial # can be cross reference with the Uprev Matrix. (List of Uprev supported ECU) - If your ECU is on the Uprev Matrix, your tuner can find what file you need to flash your car back to stock. It is like flashing your car with a new tune. Once you flash it back to stock, uprev Cipher will not be able to read your ECU , unless you reflash the car using your latest Etune file. Yes, you keep that backtostock file like a regular etunes.