Ecutech or uprev?
 

So I ive been trying to read up on both and from what I gather, ecutech seems to have more control over the ecu than uprev. Problem with ecutech is that it's not end user,which is fine because that's not what I'm looking for. I also don't really have an option for dyno tuning so that just leaves etunes which both parties have. When it comes to the money aspect,obviously one would want to go the less expensive route,but to me,if I have to pay more for a more superior product,than that's the route I'll take. So with having said that,on paper (posts) ecutech seems to have more options. But what I'm having a hard time with is people seem to still gravitate towards uprev. Am I missing something. Does it have a lot to do with just end user ability or are there other pros to uprev I haven't seen? Sorry if they seem like noob questions. I'm just looking forward to getting the car tuned and want to be confident in my choice. Have we seen any comparable dynos with one accessing more power and torque? I know that's only part of the equation,but it's a start.
Look forward to hearing some feed back on the subject and hope to keep the thread civilized! Because in the end,it's all about :driving:

Also if anybody has a link to a thread (I probably missed one or two) if you could provide a link,that'd be great.

If you don't mind a little drive there is an Uprev protuner in Seattle..

Hi, Merv. Here are a few threads -

EcuTek - http://www.the370z.com/tuning/98998-...promotion.html

UpRev - http://www.the370z.com/tuning/39447-...questions.html

VRTuned - http://www.the370z.com/tuning/100519...e-vrtuned.html

Thanks for the replies gentlemen. Going to Seattle to get tuned could be an option. Any body you deal with there you would recommend?

Uprev is more proven, ECUTEK has more options, its a choice you sir will have to make, id go ECUTEK if I had an MT

There has been all kinds of stories and drama and waiting on options that are yet to be released, and people demanding refunds etc with ECUtek. Meanwhile there are thousands of satisfied customers with Uprev.

OP look up Intec Racing in Kent WA, Lawrence the master tuner there is the most experienced Uprev tuner in the area and has tuned too many 370's to count. If anyone can bring it to the full potential he can.

i am about to make the switch from ECUtek to uprev as the features promised have taken way to long to be released. i wish i didnt waste my money but lesson learned. Please just get uprev.

Waaaay too long. Meanwhile Uprev has been providing consistent results for years... :ughdance:

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAT, I thought they released them, damn bastards! im disappointed indeed, the launch control I thought was wicked cool. If it ever came out :wtf2:

I believe they have come out with some new features. There's two step launch,switching through about 4 maps. Flat foot shifting and something else.

I believe ecutek has total control over timing,scaling injectors and access to more tables in our ecu. That leads me to believe that there's more that can be squeezed out of our ecu's. I'm trying to find more info on uprevs capabilities when it comes to the ecu.
@ reldas. What features were you waiting for that never came?

The features you listed here have not been released yet. They are still in beta testing!

Yep. And the only place to get Ecutek is through Visconti, whereas you can get Uprev from many places.

Uprev is proven. For years. I think that's why most people prefer them.

Ecutek is fairly new on the scene. They left a bad taste in a lot of mouths when they promised lots of new features and then seemingly abandoned the Z market to focus on the FRS/BRZ market.

But after several years, Ecutek has finally released the promised features. I'm not sure why they're being referred to as still in beta testing though. They are available through any licensed Ecutek tuner according to both of the tuners I have spoken with here in Texas. They did not release those features for the public to do testing on them.

I've been happy with my Ecutek tune for nearly two years now.


**edit** I should clarify that my local tuners told me they had the features, but it turned out they did not. 'Soon' is all they could say for ETA.

JAR, you can get Ecutek from a number of dealers, it just does not have all the features they promised and UpRev is still superior when it comes to mapping options.

Which features are you referring to? Visconti is not the only tuner that has access to the new features such as map switching, flat foot shifting, launch control, etc...

Now that these options are available, I personally don't feel like Uprev is the superior option any more. Also, my understanding is that some of the Uprev tables just zero out the data and adjust up or down whereas the same table in Ecutek are propagated with actual values from the ECU. But I'm no track junkie or expert in these matters.

I am unaware of ecutek releasing the new features, flat foot shifting, launch control and ect. My car was at SpecialtyZ for almost two months after Visconti announced those features and Ecutek said they were still conducting beta testing. If they have released those features it most have happened in the recent past and why has no one said anything.

Also, I am in total agreement that it will be a superior package once it is made available with all those features and hopefully flex fuel programming for those of us with forced induction!

I've been texting with Visconti and he confirmed those features are available and a valet mode as well. He also mentioned about scaling the O2 sensors as well so that they are similar to a wideband on a dyno.

Sweet...I would go for it :tup:

December 2014, so yes, quite recently. But I agree with you on questioning why there hasn't been more fanfare. Frankly, there aren't a lot of guys running Ecutek, and there are a lot of Uprev homers on this forum. Up until these features were finally released, I think there was good reason that was the case. Ecutek hyped up those features a lot long before they were released. That can rub people the wrong way; I understand. But now that they're here, I hope people will be more open to the idea that there is some legitimate competition in the marketplace. As for me, I don't really post about my tune much for a couple of reasons: (1) tuning is not at all my expertise (2) the Z is my DD and I don't track or autoX.

All I really wanted out of my tune was better throttle response, and I got it. I also wanted a valet tune and had to wait almost two years for it. Everything else was a bonus in my eyes. Which is an extremely different perspective than many people on this forum have.

Here's John's thread with videos he did showing off the new features: http://www.the370z.com/tuning/98998-...promotion.html

Right on...I think we all want the same thing regardless, a sports car that performs like and handles as well as it looks! Nothing like fierce agreement LOL!!! Hopefully others will post their results on the package. The feature should definitely benefit those of us with mo power!

Thanks to everyone for giving there input in this thread. I'm going to go with ecutek and see how it goes. I'll come back to this thread and let everyone know how my experiance goes. Looking forward to getting the car running optimal and providing feedback to the community about ecutek and the features they provide. :tiphat:

Ok,so I wanted to update this thread and clarify that the features (map switching,launch control,flat foot shifting etc...) is still not do out for another 3 to 4 weeks. I had a chance to talk to joe at dynotronics (pretty cool guy,very informative) and he told me this information. I stated earlier that this was already out. Sorry,that is what I was led to believe. My apologies. Joe did go on to say that they've been very cautious about what to announce and when,(because of obvious reasons) and that he feels strongly that within a month,we will see these features. He also guaranteed that after a month if the features haven't been released and I feel I want my money back,he would reimburse me.
Im going to go this route and hopefully everything pans out. Once again,my apologies.

Be careful with joe. There's quite a few customers here that he screwed.

Yea I'd watch it with him, I really didn't get screwed per say I just had to return my ECUTEK and go UPREV, I couldn't get a tune done , I had for like 8 weeks very frustrating! I have thread here about it. I went back to UPREV and went with Seymore and an very happy.

ECUTEK cost too much $$$ for nothing proving. BTW I bud went to local MA tuner to get ECUTEK 2 days ago. He made the apt 2 weeks ago he gets there and 3 hrs later the tuner tells him he can't do it ( NO ROM) and sells him an UPREV tune. I know that falls on the shop and tuner for not checking is VIN for a ROM but just a ECUTEK story ;/

Having worked with him in person, I don't think he's out to screw anyone deliberately. He's very busy, so I've had a difficult time even reaching him on his cell phone. This kind of communication is difficult, especially when doing e-tunes. I think he's screwed people more out of time than actual $$$. I.e. they're not happy with missing features or response time and wind up not using Ecutek.

I've been in contact recently with another local tuner in Austin. The guy told me they have access to the updated features. So I'm questioning what the actual status of the features is now :ugh:

^and he's there most loyal supporter....

Too much hype followed by a lot of promises. Up until NOW nothing new.

Would love to have had this product with the features they promised but since it's been pretty much lies over lies that the one's who brought the hype here are no longer here. I believe even Visconti stated he had more business on other platforms so he wasn't very interested in this platform as much.

Even if it does come out, I'm gonna be skeptical of it. Too many delays and delays and shady practices to build up hype.

:rolleyes:

Ecutek has never even come on this forum and posted. So I'm wondering what have they done that's shady? Did they delay Z development to focus on other vehicles? Probably, and likely because they could make more money on those vehicles. Can't fault them for that - that's just good business. Did they delay Z development to make sure things work properly upon final release? Maybe, but I still don't see how that's a bad thing.

The tuners are the ones hyping it up. Not Ecutek :twocents:

This. It's such a shame that what could turn out to be a good product has had its name run through the mud by a couple of tuners who, at best, have some follow up and people skills issues.

Just going by what Visconti said before. I thought he was the master tuner or something. Since he brought it up i thought he was their spokesman or something.

Again, this is a product that I would've loved to have on my ride. Fully built block with BP kit and CJM s2se kit. I would've loved to use ecutek for all the features they were supposed to have but it's never been completed and the business practice is what will keep me from taking the chance.

Well I decided to go with ecutek and went through Visconti. I should hopefully be tuned in the next few weeks here. Im hoping that I'm entering this at the right moment when it all comes together for ecutek and the tuners. Wish me luck! :ugh2:

Until further notice: Uprev.

And I totally understand. I know from all that's gone on,it's left a bad taste in a lot of the communities mouths. I figured I would take a chance on it and roll the dice. At the end of the day,I still get a tune for my car. :tiphat:

well man keep us updated. I really like what ECUTEK has claimed to offer vs uprev but you know how the story has gone.

let us know!

I'm guess I was right from the get go, but who is keeping score LOL! I'm not disappointed yet. I have a great UpRev tune and when EcuTek comes through I will probably jump ship. From what I have been told by a couple of folks that have EcuTeck tune on their GTRs, one of them is Seb, the package rocks! I'm glad they aren't just putting it out there just to get in out there if you know what I mean.

I will repeat here what I recently PM'ed to another forum member:

I chose ecutek software because it allowed the tuner to have direct control of the 370z throttle response and ignition timing. Whereas Uprev, at the time I was buying, had only indirect ignition timing and throttle control. Throttle control is very important with a daily driven automatic because there is no clutch to moderate and overly or underly responsive throttle during daily driving. There are several threads on The370z.com that show how uprev users are struggling with the throttle response.

My etune was done by Dynotronics in New Braunfels. I bought the tune and the cable for $725. Joe at Dynotronics had tuned several 370’s and at least one track car with some dyno time from what I understood. That experience was required to do an etune without dyno time on my car. After several iterations of programming and data logging I am satisfied with the much tailored outcome, great throttle response and more power across the rpm band with no loss in fuel mileage. Dynotronics will do retunes for free if NA mods are added as long as I own the car. Another respected ecutek tuner is Visconti Tuning in Connecticut.

Other Dynotronics references are Jarblue (6mt) in Austin and Tiger123 (7at) in Chicago.

I was told by a reputable tuner here (Kaizen) that the new features in Ecutek are not out yet -- he thinks it's about a month away from release. We're holding a dyno/tune day when it does.

Keep us posted if and when you find out.

The features are in fact still not released...although I have been talking to Ecutek. Supposdley I should be getting some race rom updates to test this week.

We'll see...two Christmases ago I thought I'd be getting them