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Besides the features,how do you like ecutek? You have bolt ons? What gains did you see? Who tuned you? Interested to see numbers. I haven't really seen any on the forum.

Stillen G3s, ported stock mani, z1 hfc, MXP catback. Seb@Specialtyz tuned my car. I had a old post with my dyno graph showing my gains I think, so far it's in line with uprev in terms of gain.

http://www.the370z.com/tuning/86101-...pecialtyz.html

I ended up having my tune further tweaked by ecutek directly (to both fix an issue and I guess squeeze out a bit more power). I was a bit of a guinea pig as other cars with Ecutek in the states were stock. Just waiting on those racerom updates now..

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I feel that I have to post this:

1. ECUTEK has been claiming things and using smoke and mirrors for some time now. If the features are available, then let people have them if they agree to test and stuff. For me, it's a nogo with those guys.

2. UPREV has been consistent with their claims and support. I personally only deal with Mike (manager) and Omar (tuner), but any of there staff will square you away and tell it to you straight. Not to mention that there are features that are available that may or may not be offered by PRO-Tuners for various reasons. I know for certain that UPREV is working updated features everyday and their tunes are very reliable (I can't speak for all of their PRO-Tuners since I went straight to the source). There are a few forum members that knew my Z and a couple even got to take it out on the Dragon (when I wasn't constantly running it) and it was tuned by a PRO-Tuner and then later on by Omar at UPREV. And I get it........every car can respond differently to parts, upgrades, and tuning.

3. VRTuning isn't even on my radar, so no comment.

The bottom line is that you have to know what and who you are dealing with in the tuning game. Just because ECUTEK is awesome with GT-Rs, that doesn't translate to being automatically awesome with 370Zs. They are very different and everyone knows that. Lastly I doubt you will ever see any posts from UPREV, but know that they have their ears to the ground and are pushing the envelope day in and day out. I would vouch for them any day of the week.

Rob

I dont know if it has been discussed but I would like to point out that Ecutek is not a "live" tuning software like uprev...

What does this mean to you the user?

More cost as your tuner will have to spend a lot more time tuning your car... Being that it is not a live tuning platform. You will have to run logs on any run then shut everything down. You would then download it to your computer and view your logs. then make your changes and then reflash your ecu... start all over! even the smallest changes means you have to go through this process....

Truth, for the tuner this is a important point to note.

@robplusbee yup, they're always getting close but never release anything. We've seen the features exist but..I'm just stillll waiting to test it. Sigh

Time frame
 

So I recieved my ecutek package on March 13 which was a Friday. On Sunday I was able to download everything and do a rom dump to Visconti. I figured it would take about a week for him to send me back a start tune so that I could get some datalogs in. What is the normal turnaround time to receive an update? I'm still waiting patiently for Visconti to send me something. I know these guys can get pretty busy so I don't want to be "that guy" that constantly hassles to get what he wants. Any ideas on a time frame? Do they have to custom make a map on the first one or do most tuners have a (canned tune) they send out,then tweak the data logs you send back?
Thanks for any input.

EcuTek does not have every Z ECU ROM incorporated into their software yet. But it shouldn't take them long. Probably more than a week, but less than two should be expected. When I dumped my ROM, Joe (Dynotronics) called me back within 10 business days to let me know that EcuTek had done the update. My guess is you'll hear something back sometime this week.

Great,thanks man. Gives me a better idea on a time frame. :tiphat:

John visconi tuned my car yesterday in about 30 minutes. Not long at all. Tuned for exactly what I had done, I gained launch control, 3 maps for 89/91/93 octane, first year of updates is free and he will look at logs and retune for minor bolt on upgrades through email. The car feels a lot more linear no jumps or drops in the rev band.

Yes it's not live change on the fly tuning. I had that with my power FC commander and this blows that out of the water. watched him tune 8-9 second GTRs yesterday with this and he's currently working on flex fuel for our cars... E85 anytime no switches or hooking up to a laptop. Just pump from almost empty and go. Changing back to 93 octane is the same. I'll be dealing with John from now on.

You are local to him, or no? This is a good sign that things are still moving forward, at least :tup:

Nope I'm in Dallas. He was here for TX2K. He told me last night to post on here and y'all can order stage one with bolts ons through visconti tuning. Car runs perfect and yes launch control is awesome. You can set up everything through the laptop then it's adjusted at the steering wheel afterward in increments with the coast/acceleration lever.
everything is working flawlessly so far driving home and playing from Houston and around town this morning. But this setup is already available and been done on quite a few cars. Yes he may be hard to reach but most of the best are.

:tup:

However, I'm not sure the extra features are fully released. There is a master tuner in Austin who does a lot of GT-Rs, but they still don't have access to these latest 370Z features. John is the only tuner I've seen that has access to them.

Not sure who's all got those features but it'll be tuned into your setup when you receive it. New ECU ID's take 1-2 days to get setup out of his mouth. Mines a 2013 nismo. just letting you guys know it does work. I'll be posting video to YouTube later on launch control and changing it.

I'm not sure what you mean by this :confused:

Saying I don't know who's all tuning in launch control or other extras. But if you order your tune and cable You can have that already added as you're initial tune file then run some logs and have him fine tune it through email.

But I already have a tune. I just want the new features (mainly a valet tune). The two master tuners local to me do not have access to those features apparently. And I'd prefer not to e-tune, although if John has a way to upgrade my tune with the new features, I wouldn't be opposed to that. Otherwise, I guess I will just have to wait longer. No big deal; it's already been two years :rolleyes:

Oh ok, yeah that was just a general statement for everyone. Are you Ecutek? If so he should be able to do it without messing with your tune. Would just need your file and would change it and send it back. Not sure what he would charge. But if it's uprev it's completely different and I'm told you can't get those features through that. Contact John at visconti flash and see what he says can't hurt.

Yes, I have Ecutek. One of the first ones back in 2013.

Problem is I didn't bother to buy a cable because I have a local tuner. I will also have to upgrade to the Pro Tune software (I think?). I don't know why, but that's what I've been told - I thought the Pro Tune was just for the tuner, not a whole different license. I may send John a PM in a month or so if the local guys can't get the new features by then. He's a busy guy and enough customer of his have problems reaching him that I'm not even going to bother him until I'm ready to pull the trigger. At that point, I'll just call him and ask everything on the phone first - I hate having technical discussions via PM or email.

It's a little frustrating that there is no one on this forum that can actually explain what's going on with the Ecutek software. We are relying on information from the people that make money selling the product, not from Ecutek themselves. It's great that John has it and is offering it to people. But why only him? Thankfully, I don't have a need for any of the extra features, and my tune is fine. So I'm just in a holding pattern until they're ready. What's another month or three at this point?

This is good news. I don't know if your the first one with these features that's not a beta,but your the first to post this news on the forum!(unless I missed something) Ya,this is definately music to my ears. Thanks for sharing. I hope these features will be available through etunes.
Edit: just read that you can.

Yes from what I watched all he did was click a box on the tuning menu And it was done. Also changed the rev limit. Used no lift shift today without a single issue and it doesn't just stop it at red line. If it's floored as soon as you hit the clutch at any RPM it holds there 6k/7k/7500 doesn't matter just don't lift your right foot slightly being used to shifting without. I did this a few times. Right foot stays planted. Pretty much only good for racing or other very hard acceleration. But I love it. That with launch means in a straight line you don't lift until you're ready to be done.

Nice! How much was tune and cable purchase?

Through Visconti,it's 650 for cable and tune. Or you get custom tunes for one year and its 850. that includes cable as well.

So I just wanted to update this thread with what's been happening with my tune. Yesterday I got a call from John (Visconti) and we started on getting the initial tune going. I ran into a snag with my internet and wasn't able to finish it off til this morning. On my way into work I noticed the throttle definately felt better. I also took the computer in to work this morning to get some data logging in and did some more after work as well. Johns working on a tune for me as we speak. As for the features,they are all there and they all work great! I can't speak for other tuners that tune with ecutek,but they are available through Visconti.
I'll post more on my tune once john gets it dialed in. :driving:

Awesome. good to see that they are getting things going now.

Is Uprev's office in Austin just a corp office or can you go down there for a tune??

They have a full service shop that does everything from oil changes to engine swaps, and LOTS of dyno tuning.

UPREV's shop is in Austin, TX. They can handle anything from full builds all the was down to simple maintenance.

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Thanks Guys! I am going to make a date there soon for a tune. Lots of mods coming

Updates on EcuTech?
 

I am going to install a Motordyne CBE, ART Test Pipes, and M370 Intake manifold within the next couple of weeks and I am now in business to look for a reputable tuning shop in San Diego/ Los Angeles area. Does anyone have any suggestions on shops in my area? I would prefer San Diego Local shops but I am willing to travel up to Los Angeles or possibly a smidgen farther for a reputable and reliable tuning shop.

Also this goes hand in hand in my mind but since this is a thread about Ecutech vs Uprev, I would like to know if anyone has any updates on Ecutech. Are most shops receiving access to the extra features that were promised? Does anyone know a shop in my area that is offering Ecutech software with the new features?

btw just in case anyone cares I have a 2014 6 Speed MT/Base/Sport 370Z and have owned it for over a year and a half. She's got just under 20k miles on her, and its time for some Modifications! :stirthepot: :driving:

Call Sebastian at SpecialtyZ in Chatsworth. He one of the best tuners anywhere. He can give you insight on both packages.

So I will be dropping the White Dragon off tonight to Rob @ Topspeed Motorsports. They will be doing the change from Uprev to Ecutek... All of my tuning (93oct - Maybe e85) will be done in a matter of two days.

We will have a baseline on the uprev and then categorize the difference from switching tuning platforms. The car will be at Zdayz and I will categorize any and all changes here for those who want to see the difference from the two platforms and how they affect your final outcome.

Currently, we are making 853rwhp and 677ftlbs @ 20psi on 93 octane. This was done at Z1 Motorsports earlier this year. I expect we will see more power and consistency. here is a snap shot of our last dyno session at Z1 Motorsports:
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...psqolxjflb.png

I will say that I respect both Z1 and TopSpeed. They both tune great cars and I am furtunate enough to have had a great dilemma of choosing between the two. I support both shops.

In for this !!! Finally someone doing this

So the car was dropped off at Topspeed last night. I took rob for a ride and explained an issue I had with partial throttle acceleration. Turns out with this large of injector the way uprev uses multipliers in the fuel tables and causes the closed loop/open loop transition to be very noticeable. Outside of that it was a good handoff. Topspeed will be raising the rear end of the car as the new kW v3's have settled a lot! Especially, over the last two days causing the r888's to rub the rear bumper. Once they raise the car they will baseline on their dyno and then proceed to pull my current tune and uprev license off. (License will be for sale cheap). Then on to the fun parts! I will be by the shop later tonight and will take pics/video if I can.

@ bullitt.
Do you know if rob will do etunes? I have ecutek and think more can be squeezed out of it. I've been told I'm maxed out at 282 hp because of our shitty gas here in the north,but I have a hard time believing that with the extra breathers I have on. Basically looking for a second opinion.
As for your venture,I look forward to seeing the difference between the two. Your opinion and the facts for or against either or will go far in the community for you boosted folk.

Yeah give them a call! I had a big concern making the jump and Rob had try to get me to do it earlier in the year. my biggest concern came from if he left our local shop and my area (he lives 10 mins from me) and went to a different state would he still be able to tune for me. He has mentioned that he is in fact willing to e-tune.

honestly, I want to keep opinion out of the review and just let the facts speak for themselves.:tup::driving:

Update: on the uprev we are finding that the fuel mapping isn't very clean... My ID2000 were running at 95% duty cycle at 850whp which is erroneous since they are good for 1500whp on pump gas... So we are going to start fresh with the ecutek now and see if that clears up the issue. My fuel pump is good to 1800whp so we know the issue isn't there. I will update as we progress. Stay tuned!

Why would the table be forcing them to run so high? Where's the fuel pressure ?

Turns out the injectors were not the ID2000cc I was led to believe. Since I am under a time crunch we have some ID1300 available and they will be going in the car in the morning.