Nov Fastrack out!

14BlackCherry · 10-22-2014, 01:10 AM

http://scca.cdn.racersites.com/prod/...-Nov%201-3.pdf

No changes in ST classes pretty much. The 2015 FRS RS 1.0 was moved to B-Street.

Have a good off season, see everybody next year in BS!

danegrey · 10-23-2014, 07:34 AM

That sounds, good, but I need to look at the rules a bit better.....

takjak2 · 10-23-2014, 01:17 PM

370Z to BS, Nismo to AS
Oh well...
Even worse for the Laguna Seca Boss 302 being in a different class. SCCA really has a stick up its butt on special models.

GT3 headed for the exclusion list. Sucks for those guys gals. While letting GT-Rs in.

SCCA makes no sense.

At least H-stock Nissans look fun.

ConeKilla · 10-23-2014, 04:21 PM

Sometimes I liken the SEB to the "popular" kids on the high school student body. In that they seemingly make decisions that are "popular" and rarely are founded on facts and data like you might expect.

Regarding the 370z move to BS. Looking at national level results between BS and CS the 370z looks like it will be able to hold its own in that class. Time will tell. Unfortunately there are far more S2000 drivers than 370z drivers and it wouldn't shock me to see the 370z moved into AS in 2016.

stuy486 · 10-23-2014, 05:35 PM

While I personally think it belongs in C, I think the 370z will be able to hold hit's own in BS on the national level where the courses are big and fast, and often held at good concrete sites.

However, it's going to be screwed over on tighter lots and on crappy asphalt, which unfortunately are very common at the regional level.

I understand them wanting to keep special models separate from the base models, even if it puts the special model in a class where it can't compete. You shouldn't have to buy hard to find/expensive models just to have a place to play.

j-rho · 10-23-2014, 08:35 PM

Anybody coming to STR with me?

gomer_110 · 10-23-2014, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by j-rho

Anybody coming to STR with me?

Just come play in ASP. The purple crack is so much more fun than street tires. Of course considering it looks like you're from San Diego that means you'll probably end up dealing with McCance with the classing changes for the subarus.

cruzthepug · 10-24-2014, 06:32 AM

Since this was my first year and I'm still a beginner, the class change doesn't really bother me that much. There are a couple of local drivers in CS that compete at the national events and I'm about a second slower than they are and the same is true with the local BS drivers. The top 3 BS guys are from .5 - 1.5 seconds faster. So, the way I see it, either class I'm starting out a second behind so it really doesn't matter, I just need to get a litter faster.

I do plan to install a set of Koni yellows before the start of next season. I've still got 6-7 event left to do this year, so I'm working on closing the gap.

gomer_110 · 10-24-2014, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by cruzthepug

I've still got 6-7 event left to do this year, so I'm working on closing the gap.

Jealous of you warm climate guys and your long autox seasons. I'm stuck waiting till April.

Masterbeatty · 10-24-2014, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by gomer_110

Jealous of you warm climate guys and your long autox seasons. I'm stuck waiting till April.

Yha but even april still suck because the pavment isnt warm untill 1:00 or later. Also in CT it was still snowing till mid april this year.

gomer_110 · 10-24-2014, 08:49 AM

We were still dealing with the same things here in Ohio. The first local event we had this year it was just barely above freezing.

nismosis · 10-28-2014, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ConeKilla

Sometimes I liken the SEB to the "popular" kids on the high school student body. In that they seemingly make decisions that are "popular" and rarely are founded on facts and data like you might expect.

Regarding the 370z move to BS. Looking at national level results between BS and CS the 370z looks like it will be able to hold its own in that class. Time will tell. Unfortunately there are far more S2000 drivers than 370z drivers and it wouldn't shock me to see the 370z moved into AS in 2016.

There's an RX8 (CS) guy on the SEB....

j-rho · 10-28-2014, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by nismosis

There's an RX8 (CS) guy on the SEB....

As quick on the trigger as I am to flame club leaders when I think they've acted for personal benefit over that of the club - I don't think that's what happened here. The 370z isn't a small light car with 4cylinder power that gets by on its handling. It's bigger and heavier, but makes up for it with more wheel and extra acceleration. When viewed this way it doesn't "look like" the other CS cars, and the move makes sense.

nismosis · 11-01-2014, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by j-rho

As quick on the trigger as I am to flame club leaders when I think they've acted for personal benefit over that of the club - I don't think that's what happened here. The 370z isn't a small light car with 4cylinder power that gets by on its handling. It's bigger and heavier, but makes up for it with more wheel and extra acceleration. When viewed this way it doesn't "look like" the other CS cars, and the move makes sense.

No, I don't think any one individual has that much pull. At any rate, don't forgot we were the staple of this class for a few years, until the little pissers showed up. The SCCA likes to keep one dominate make per class, Vettes in A, S2000s in B, us in C, etc. Now as the S2000s age on the competitive curve, we can go up there and have some fun, and leave C for the little hipster d-bag mobiles. I do wish however we could find a better home in ST.

j-rho · 11-02-2014, 11:44 AM

Peters won STR in a 350, and most would agree the 370 is even better so really, STR is not a bad place. Sure, we might like more wheel/tire, but every car there has shortcomings - the others would love to have our torque.

10-22-2014, 01:10 AM	#1 (permalink)
14BlackCherry Base Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Colorado Age: 38 Posts: 178 Drives: 14 Nissan 370z BC M6 Rep Power: 12	Nov Fastrack out! http://scca.cdn.racersites.com/prod/...-Nov%201-3.pdf No changes in ST classes pretty much. The 2015 FRS RS 1.0 was moved to B-Street. Have a good off season, see everybody next year in BS!

10-23-2014, 07:34 AM	#2 (permalink)
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10-23-2014, 01:17 PM	#3 (permalink)
takjak2 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Sterling, VA Posts: 1,922 Drives: Legit Racecar 370Z Rep Power: 143	370Z to BS, Nismo to AS Oh well... Even worse for the Laguna Seca Boss 302 being in a different class. SCCA really has a stick up its butt on special models. GT3 headed for the exclusion list. Sucks for those guys gals. While letting GT-Rs in. SCCA makes no sense. At least H-stock Nissans look fun. gomer_110 likes this. __________________ Mods \| Stuff \| Things \| Seat Time \| Nismo facebook.com/TeamSparrowSpeed

10-24-2014, 06:32 AM	#8 (permalink)
cruzthepug Base Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 245 Drives: 2014 370Z Touring Rep Power: 12	Since this was my first year and I'm still a beginner, the class change doesn't really bother me that much. There are a couple of local drivers in CS that compete at the national events and I'm about a second slower than they are and the same is true with the local BS drivers. The top 3 BS guys are from .5 - 1.5 seconds faster. So, the way I see it, either class I'm starting out a second behind so it really doesn't matter, I just need to get a litter faster. I do plan to install a set of Koni yellows before the start of next season. I've still got 6-7 event left to do this year, so I'm working on closing the gap. __________________ Ark Performance / Eibach / Forgestar (CF10's Daily, F14's Race)/ Project Kics / K&N / Z1 / TWM Performance / RJM Performance / Koni / Hawk Performance

10-24-2014, 08:49 AM	#11 (permalink)
gomer_110 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Perrysburg, OH Posts: 17,992 Drives: '11 Nismo #528 GM Rep Power: 36941	We were still dealing with the same things here in Ohio. The first local event we had this year it was just barely above freezing. __________________ '11 370Z Nismo #528 Fast Intentions \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Uprev \| CSF \| Zspeed \| Z1 Motorsports \| AST \| Swift \| SPC \| SPL \| Whiteline \| Hotchkis \| Bride \| Schroth \| Robispec \| Cusco \| Nismo \| Volk \| Forgestar \| Hoosier \| RJM '17 Titan Bone Stock

10-23-2014, 04:21 PM	#4 (permalink)
ConeKilla Base Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Seattle Posts: 45 Drives: 2014 370z Rep Power: 12	Sometimes I liken the SEB to the "popular" kids on the high school student body. In that they seemingly make decisions that are "popular" and rarely are founded on facts and data like you might expect. Regarding the 370z move to BS. Looking at national level results between BS and CS the 370z looks like it will be able to hold its own in that class. Time will tell. Unfortunately there are far more S2000 drivers than 370z drivers and it wouldn't shock me to see the 370z moved into AS in 2016.

10-23-2014, 05:35 PM	#5 (permalink)
stuy486 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 81 Drives: '12 370Z MB M6 Rep Power: 12	While I personally think it belongs in C, I think the 370z will be able to hold hit's own in BS on the national level where the courses are big and fast, and often held at good concrete sites. However, it's going to be screwed over on tighter lots and on crappy asphalt, which unfortunately are very common at the regional level. I understand them wanting to keep special models separate from the base models, even if it puts the special model in a class where it can't compete. You shouldn't have to buy hard to find/expensive models just to have a place to play.

10-23-2014, 08:35 PM	#6 (permalink)
j-rho Base Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: San Diego Posts: 154 Drives: 1967 Camaro Z28 Rep Power: 12	Anybody coming to STR with me?

11-02-2014, 11:44 AM	#15 (permalink)
j-rho Base Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: San Diego Posts: 154 Drives: 1967 Camaro Z28 Rep Power: 12	Peters won STR in a 350, and most would agree the 370 is even better so really, STR is not a bad place. Sure, we might like more wheel/tire, but every car there has shortcomings - the others would love to have our torque.