Fuel starvation, who else?

cossie1600

Ouch thats mean......I cant afford to feed the dog, oil cooler is too expensive

bebeone

I totally dont agree with many opinions written here. I mean those, where you say that most of the cars will never see the track and most of the people will never expect fuel starvation. Actually, this is true. Most cars wont ever be tracked. But I have bought a sports car, didn't I ? It wasnt listed as a sports looking car only ! I have had 350z 2004 before and never experienced a problem, on the street, on the track.
I sometimes drive hard on the street and go on the track about 6 times a year. On my 2009 370z a already experienced fuel starvation on the track as well as on the street and also the oil overheat issue.
I should always top up the tank, this solves the problem? Im pissed off! I always have to carry 50 litres of weight with me. I never had to do this with 350Z.
With so many people designing the fuel tank and the whole car, this shouldnt have happend.
I experience the fuel starvation on the street sometimes and Im not a formula one driver... This problem should be solved by Nissan itself!

cossie1600

You are right Nissan have tons of idiots on their payroll, yet I am not sure what you can do short of selling it and get another car. There is no fix currently and we already told you the best thing you can do. If you don't want to listen, that is your problem. If you care so much about weight, you will know that the 370 is still faster than a 350 with an empty tank....

wstar

I won't defend Nissan any further. In other threads/places you'll find me cursing them up and down the wall on some issues. But you (and they) have to look at reality too. Even on a very enthusiast forum like this one (which, IMHO, is a step above the car culture in many car forums), take a look around at the ratios of "types" of owners by the threads and mods and whatnot.

Most people buy sportscars to look sporty. Whether it's a stereotypical "chick buys sportscar because it looks sexy" or a guy that buys a car because he thinks it looks racecar-y and then does a bunch of "I want it to look faster and meaner" mods. I'd love it if Nissan ignored all those people and released a true track-ready car that made no compromises. You could order this dream car for $30K and it would come with proper oil/tranny/diff cooling, a completely stripped and caged interior like the NISMO RC version, no radio, no AC, an ABS OFF switch, no Ice Mode programming, etc.

But it'll never happen. The two nearest approximations they can offer us, given the market, is the consumer 370Z we have today, and the $150K NISMO RC. There's just not a good market for a brand new pure track car where you can sell it on the cheap side at high volume, so car companies compromise. They try to give us something the enthusiasts can still make use of if they put some work into it. The fuel starve thing is a rather unfortunate design problem, but I still think if you've got a reason to really complain about it being a practical problem for you, you're already in the kind of category where you're modding the hell out of the car. Adding a surge tank or whatever isn't that huge a deal.

Most owners, when given the option to vote with their dollars, will pay more for a better factory subwoofer setup than to get a fuel starve fix from Nissan.

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scruffydog

HAHA, true...most people I know don't buy a "Sports Car" to drive it like a Sports car. Every once in a blue moon you'll see them driving it hard in a straight line, but most of the time they just wanna be noticed that they're in a "Sports Car" that can do whatever spec they can remember from the brochure. But they won't ever like to take it to the extreme because they're worried they'll damage their expensive toy.

Which is why Nissan won't acknowledge too much of this, if we start a poll for majority of the Z owners, they probably won't even know this was a problem to begin with. They'll probably complain about how sucky the upgraded Boss stereo being an issue, loud cabin noise, etc. Rather than oil over temp, fuel starvation, or even brake fade issue.

SPOHN

I'm just glad my next track day at AMP is mostly long left handers and small quick right handers. See what I can get away with.

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ChrisSlicks

The 350Z didn't have the accentuated saddle design which is why it didn't have this problem.

Corvettes do though yet they have no issue. Should investigate what solution they employ.

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travisjb

I was at Sebring last weekend to spectate a NASA event... there was a 370z in DE4... it was sad watching him go around the long right hander before the start/finish straight - you guys know the one if you've ever run this track or played it on a sim... very bumpy and high speed entry if you do it right... anyways every time he came around it sounded like he was stabbing at the throttle. for a minute I thought he was an idiot, then realized it was fuel starvation. poor guy.

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Bucketlist2012

How someone defends this "sports car", is beyond me...Is a Sports car for cornering ? Or to look at ?

Travis, that is SAD....All the other cars laugh at that guy and the Nissan 370Z..

But the wife will look good in it...

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Bucketlist2012

I won't sell the Wife's car, but that is all it is....The Wife's car...

Cossie, You seem so defensive and tell people they are whining.. This is a problem that never should have happened..

And I am sorry if your nose is bent because the Nissan Sucks.

I am not angry...I have plenty of money to buy whatever I want, whenever I want...So Money is never the problem..My mistake for not researching the problems...Yes, MY mistake...So yes, you are right...My Problem...

It is NISSAN that doesn't want to listen... We listened and the fix is LAME.....You may want to roll over for Nissan...Go for it.

You and I both know Nissan should step up....You know it...But since you own one, you defend it....OK...

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cossie1600

Hmm..i hate Nissen as much as you do, but for different reasons. why would I want to suck them off when my gas tank actually broke at 12k miles and I still have to deal with the same exact problem on a new tank. I trash them whenever I can get, but whining about fuel starvation when everyone already knows is a joke. What are you going to say next, stock pads and fluid arent track ready?

Red__Zed

not the same.

TerribleONE

completely agree... the fuel starvation is a huge disappointment especially because no one knows how to get around it really... A lot of "sports cars" stock brakes wont hold up on a track just like ours...

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Red__Zed

unless you are buying a prepped car or very slow, you are an idiot for running stock brake pads/fluid on a track, even if they can be used, it just makes sense to swap them.

Adding an extra pump to the fuel tank is another animal entirely.

cossie1600

I melted the stock pads off the Corvette and e46 and 350z within 3 laps. Why do you think most regular track people swap the brakes before each track day.....