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martin82 12-27-2013 02:36 PM

You will max out stock suspension fairly easily, took me about 5-7 track days to max out the car easily on stock shocks/springs and front and rear camber arms only w rs3 tires. Next was coilovers, diff, sway bar and dropped a lot of time there.

GSS138 12-27-2013 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 03threefiftyz (Post 2627048)
Tires and a diff will make the single biggest impact on how the car handles and exits the corner.

Yeah that is kind of why I went the route of buying the Quaiffe diff first. Everything I read suggests that it is 1 of two things:
1. Not stiff enough springs
2. LSD.

I couldn't pass up the Xmas sale at Z1 lol. Got it for less than a grand. The OEM suspension all though not terrible by any means(for OEM it is quite good). Man it is way too bouncy. Scares the heck out of me at BRP from grapevine through club corner, and I feel I really limit myself at AAA and Big willow through the fastest parts, because once things start shaking, I back off. BRP the car hardly ever gets planted it seems with all the camber and elevation changes. Definitely need some faster springs as well.

martin82 12-27-2013 02:57 PM

Right now it's lack of track suspension alignment=no front or rear camber arms

Mike 12-27-2013 03:02 PM

my Tein monoflex are 783 front and rear. Both Mike Skeen and Brian Kleeman loved the way my car handles when they drove it.

03threefiftyz 12-27-2013 04:42 PM

That has to be a real coilover in the rear at that size?

martin82 12-27-2013 04:44 PM

that's correct, its on my JRZ RS pro, I didn't install the rear springs yet

GSS138 12-27-2013 05:45 PM

Mike on a scale of 1-10 1 being "perfectly drivable on street", 10 being "absolutely no f-ing way am I driving this thing to work". How would you rate your car for daily driver use, based on just the springs and ride quality-ignore everything else.

ENT-Z 12-27-2013 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 2627122)
my Tein monoflex are 783 front and rear. Both Mike Skeen and Brian Kleeman loved the way my car handles when they drove it.

Glad to hear. My car is going in tomorrow to have the Tein Monoflex installed (with EDFC Active) and a bunch of SPL goodies. Looking forward to the start of the track season!

clintfocus 12-27-2013 11:14 PM

interesting input in this tread :P

synolimit 12-28-2013 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2625607)
That might be to stiff for our rear. Lol. Anyways due to the nature of are cars being tail happy a little softer is really needed. I'm seeing where some are removing the sway bar completely after a good Coilovers setup

I meant that for an OEM setup. What would 15-16k be? 8-9k in a true?

synolimit 12-28-2013 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by martin82 (Post 2627077)
Even with stock vlsd, still manage fast laps, yes the diff is huge. Tires for us not so much in SoCal we run rs3 mostly and a few on Td's we don't run Hoosiers like NorCal or other areas.

Here are my rear spring dimensions that was asked prior 8"x2.25"x 450lbs

Doran said he hits 300* diff temps within 3 laps. Say the OEM VLSD never hit 250*. Is it possible it won't become sh*t from over heating? Just finished my diff cooler and can get the temp to drop 40*.

synolimit 12-28-2013 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by GSS138 (Post 2627092)
Yeah that is kind of why I went the route of buying the Quaiffe diff first. Everything I read suggests that it is 1 of two things:
1. Not stiff enough springs
2. LSD.

I couldn't pass up the Xmas sale at Z1 lol. Got it for less than a grand. The OEM suspension all though not terrible by any means(for OEM it is quite good). Man it is way too bouncy. Scares the heck out of me at BRP from grapevine through club corner, and I feel I really limit myself at AAA and Big willow through the fastest parts, because once things start shaking, I back off. BRP the car hardly ever gets planted it seems with all the camber and elevation changes. Definitely need some faster springs as well.

Agree. Stock wants to bounce over little bumps and then "float" to the outside. Very scary! Can't wait to finish and get this bitch planted!

03threefiftyz 12-28-2013 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by GSS138 (Post 2627337)
Mike on a scale of 1-10 1 being "perfectly drivable on street", 10 being "absolutely no f-ing way am I driving this thing to work". How would you rate your car for daily driver use, based on just the springs and ride quality-ignore everything else.

As a Mike also, 9.5. No radio, AC, delrin bushings, etc...

...there is a reason my car has no tags.

Mike 12-28-2013 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 03threefiftyz (Post 2627841)
As a Mike also, 9.5. No radio, AC, delrin bushings, etc...

...there is a reason my car has no tags.

mine also. I don't remember the last time I drove it on the street, as its been over two years, but I do remember it wasn't bad at all.

SPOHN 12-28-2013 03:25 PM

Took mine off the street also. The aggressive alignment I'll be running is track only. Car is being setup up for the best turn in possible. I'm going full out.


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