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03threefiftyz 12-24-2013 07:54 AM

In fairness, you use REALLY short tires and soft springs. Your car never seemed low at static heights.

GSS138 12-24-2013 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 03threefiftyz (Post 2622640)
That's all fine, but it relies on the same static spring perch height. Any decent shock is going to have a threaded perch for the spring, which you move up. You won't lose any dynamic bump travel, even with a 7" spring. There is a considerable weight savings to be had by using a 7x2.25" spring vs a 9-10" larger diameter spring as well. I want to say the rear was a 5 or 5.5" ID spring in the rear.

So you have coil overs mounted in OEM spring location in the rear? On a coil over I understand, but for that SPL mid link solution I think I might still need a longer spring if I don't use a true coil over.

The shocks I am considering are Koni 2812's or 2816's for the rear. Not sure I have a product selected for the fronts yet.

03threefiftyz 12-24-2013 10:26 AM

No. You use threaded perches same as the front, just in the spring bucket.

Ignore the excess anti-seize:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8380/8...63e7054a_c.jpg

cossie1600 12-24-2013 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by synolimit (Post 2622114)
And they are OEM design? You only posted one damn pic and its super close up of just 2 shocks :gtfo2: haha

http://imageshack.us/a/img822/3528/1ge6.jpg

Rusty 12-24-2013 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GSS138 (Post 2623054)
So you have coil overs mounted in OEM spring location in the rear? On a coil over I understand, but for that SPL mid link solution I think I might still need a longer spring if I don't use a true coil over.

The shocks I am considering are Koni 2812's or 2816's for the rear. Not sure I have a product selected for the fronts yet.

Koni's.....hmmmmmm

http://www.koniracing.com/2812mk2.cfm

You mean 2817?

http://www.koniracing.com/2817.cfm

03threefiftyz 12-24-2013 02:59 PM

You would want 2812's for all 4. They package better than remote shocks, but are not cheaper. You will spend $4k once all is said and done for a set. If you go that route, call Jeff Wong at ProParts.

GSS138 12-24-2013 04:45 PM

OK, but then how to build the front? Where do the spring perches go?

GSS138 12-24-2013 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 2623483)

neither: KONI: Racing

number three, just 2812.

wrxrcr 12-24-2013 05:05 PM

I went with MCS 2 way non remote. I have ast 4100s on my subaru but i would discourage anybody from buying them. I have been waiting 2 months for a shaft and they still don't know when it will be in. AST parts come from Holland. Products | Motion Control Suspension | Damper and Coilover Systems

ResIpsa 12-24-2013 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 03threefiftyz (Post 2622816)
In fairness, you use REALLY short tires and soft springs. Your car never seemed low at static heights.

And that picture was taken in the braking zone at the bottom of turn 4 while on cold (under inflated) 245/35/18 tires.

Things evened up as they came to temp. Then my master cylinder failed and I crashed into the oil recycling station. But that is another story...

03threefiftyz 12-24-2013 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GSS138 (Post 2623646)
OK, but then how to build the front? Where do the spring perches go?

The shock has a threaded body. The perch moves up and down on these threads. You may or may not need helper springs...depends on desired ride height, shock length and spring rate.

Rusty 12-24-2013 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GSS138 (Post 2623649)
neither: KONI: Racing

number three, just 2812.

Ok.

synolimit 12-25-2013 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 03threefiftyz (Post 2622640)
That's all fine, but it relies on the same static spring perch height. Any decent shock is going to have a threaded perch for the spring, which you move up. You won't lose any dynamic bump travel, even with a 7" spring. There is a considerable weight savings to be had by using a 7x2.25" spring vs a 9-10" larger diameter spring as well. I want to say the rear was a 5 or 5.5" ID spring in the rear.

Edit: o wait you guys are talking about the rear aren't you?

You talking about the spring height moving with a sleeve around the shock body, or the whole shock body moving for height! I always thought coilovers worked by adjusting the sleeve around the shock body that the spring sits on till I watched the fortune auto video about how to set up their shock and can see the whole shocks spins around the lower mounting holes. This keeps the spring always under tension. I guess in the video they talk about lesser quality coilovers only adjusting height the first way which when lowered to much won't have an tension or preload on the spring and it will flop around till the car has weight on the top hat.

synolimit 12-25-2013 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 2623288)

Nice. But damn, Im sad to hear you're unhappy about this! My WRX was a world of difference from the OEM like 220lbs fronts and 190lbs rears to RCE yellow 330lbs all around a koni adjustables. The setup didn't break my back but dear lord did I go from some serious body roll to almost zero!! You're OEM was like 7-8k and now you're over 10k and unhappy. Hope I have better luck with my selection.

Wait, are those FA springs or swifts? Progressive or linear?

cossie1600 12-25-2013 01:14 AM

On the fortune setup, basically the preload is set independently of the height. On some of the lesser coilovers, you set the height and it would change the preload at the same time.

For the 370z, some suspension kits will modify the rear suspension to a point where they would turn the rear shock back to a "strut" type of setup with the spring sitting on a perch in the back instead of the "tub" in the back.

At the end of the day, good shocks are very good expensive. Prepare to custom build them as the 370z doesn't have a lot of options


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