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PharmDZ 10-31-2014 03:31 PM

I run my 295/30r19 hoosier A6 on the stock Rays sport rim (9 inch wide). They're pinched a bit but they don't rub and works very well for me.

mdxj 10-31-2014 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gomer_110 (Post 3017556)
Front: 18x10 +30
Rear: 18x11 +18

315/30-18 Hoosiers on all 4 corners. In all reality the 315 wants a wheel wider than 10" to be happy, but it does work on a 10" wide wheel.

Also don't waste your time with 295's just go to the 315's and call it a day. When I made the switch it was remarkable how much happier the car was.

I will be running G Force Rivals next year and they do come in 315/30/18 so that's good news. What wheels are you using? Bigger is always better! I ran a 275/295 stagger on AD08's and had decent luck but it's time to go wider since I will finally have a dedicated autox set.

gomer_110 10-31-2014 08:38 PM

The wheels I'm running are Volk TE37SL's.

mdxj 10-31-2014 08:53 PM

And those are out of my range right now haha. I have something to shoot for though since a 315 works up front. I enjoy the offseason just as much since it's the only chance I have to build

370zproject 11-03-2014 10:13 PM

so without reading 41 pages... stillen front sway bar is the way to go for daily and tracking every now and then?

Rusty 11-03-2014 10:27 PM

Hotchkis front bar with the stock rear bar.

370zproject 11-03-2014 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3021134)
Hotchkis front bar with the stock rear bar.

i read theres alot more tire wear with that for daily use

Rusty 11-03-2014 10:32 PM

Not really from stock alginment. Now when you start changing things around. Yea.

370zproject 11-03-2014 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3021138)
Not really from stock alginment. Now when you start changing things around. Yea.

gotcha what set up are you using and do you daily drive yours?

Rusty 11-04-2014 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 370zproject (Post 3021145)
gotcha what set up are you using and do you daily drive yours?

I don't DD as much any more. Still put miles on it.

Don't forget. I'm running 275's in the front, and 345's in the rear. Mich PSS's.
Front camber at -2, caster at +6, zero toe.
Rear camber at -1.75. Going to change that to -1.5. Toe, a hair in.

redline10000 11-06-2014 10:50 AM

Anyone here try having Delrin offset bushings made for the 370z upper control arm? I was thinking about using these instead of camber arms since they are much cheap and work just as well. Just gotta find a shop.

carlitos_370z 11-06-2014 12:20 PM

subscribed :)

j-rho 11-06-2014 12:23 PM

In my experience, custom delrin offset bushings cost more to have made, than the available control arms. If you have a lathe and can DIY that's different - but most of us don't.

That said, I'm surprised ES or Whiteline or Prothane don't have poly bushing kits for our cars? All I see is the diff and subframe stuff. I don't see uprated (but non-metal) bushings for the front or rear lower control arms anywhere?

redline10000 11-06-2014 12:48 PM

I didn't think it would cost more than $150 to get them made but who knows. I can't find a shop in my area to do it. You are right though its shocking how no one is making anything like this for our car. I would really like to see something like this:
S2000 Offset Camber Bushings » AdrenalineAutosport

Motorsport! Camber Adjustment Kit, Front, 70-78 240Z-260Z-280Z - The Z Store! Nissan-Datsun 240Z-260Z-280Z-280ZX-300ZX(Z31/Z32)-350Z-370Z Parts

j-rho 11-06-2014 01:53 PM

Yep - costs for a volume-produced part are going to be a fraction of the one-off price, because the manufacturer gets to spread their design and tooling/setup costs out over a much larger number of parts. To have a fabricator make you one set of bushings, you're looking at $100-200 per unique bushing.

RicerX 12-23-2014 01:26 PM

Joining up for the first time! Looking to get going on this in the spring.

My Z is currently my DD and I'm looking at doing wheels/tires/new fluids by the time the season picks back up.

For starters, would it be worth it to pick up a set of stock base 18s and throw sticky tires on them or use my sport wheels with new rubber and DD on the 18s?

370zproject 12-24-2014 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3021185)
I don't DD as much any more. Still put miles on it.

Don't forget. I'm running 275's in the front, and 345's in the rear. Mich PSS's.
Front camber at -2, caster at +6, zero toe.
Rear camber at -1.75. Going to change that to -1.5. Toe, a hair in.

good lord:yum:

stuy486 12-24-2014 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RicerX (Post 3064012)
For starters, would it be worth it to pick up a set of stock base 18s and throw sticky tires on them or use my sport wheels with new rubber and DD on the 18s?

If you're going to run SCCA B Street class, the base model 18" wheels are not technically legal on a sport package car due to the different offset and width. That being said, I highly doubt anyone would protest you since they are a clear downgrade. The Sport package wheels are wider, so you'd definitely be better off using them with good rubber. I personally just drive around on my competition tires, that's the beauty of street classes.

gomer_110 12-29-2014 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by stuy486 (Post 3065138)
If you're going to run SCCA B Street class, the base model 18" wheels are not technically legal on a sport package car due to the different offset and width. That being said, I highly doubt anyone would protest you since they are a clear downgrade. The Sport package wheels are wider, so you'd definitely be better off using them with good rubber. I personally just drive around on my competition tires, that's the beauty of street classes.

With all the hate towards the 370Z this last year I don't know if I'd count on this. Locally you'd probably be fine but nationally there's just too many people that want to stir the pot for no reason.

Who know's maybe now that the car is in BS no one will care.

redline10000 02-05-2015 01:27 PM

How much camber are the guys who DD their autox cars running?

My z is my DD but I want to step the front camber up and dunno how much will be OK before I start eating up my tires. I'm thinking maybe -2.2 will be OK. Any thoughts?

stuy486 02-05-2015 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by redline10000 (Post 3102917)
How much camber are the guys who DD their autox cars running?

My z is my DD but I want to step the front camber up and dunno how much will be OK before I start eating up my tires. I'm thinking maybe -2.2 will be OK. Any thoughts?

Assuming you're prepping for STR or higher? There's no front camber adjustment with the stock suspension (i.e. no front camber for a B Street car)

Tire wear resulting from autocross will vastly outweigh tire wear from DDing, so I wouldn't worry about that too much... Unless you have some crazy front toe or something...

redline10000 02-05-2015 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by stuy486 (Post 3102932)
Assuming you're prepping for STR or higher? There's no front camber adjustment with the stock suspension (i.e. no front camber for a B Street car)

Tire wear resulting from autocross will vastly outweigh tire wear from DDing, so I wouldn't worry about that too much... Unless you have some crazy front toe or something...

Yup I will be doing ASP for this year since my rims are too big for STR. My club has ASP on street tires so works great for me. I have 0 toe up front and kenetix camber arms. I would love to run as much front camber as possible.

Masterbeatty 02-05-2015 02:25 PM

I am running - 2.0 and my tires are fine on the inside. The toe out is what's killing my outer side of the tire. But, I love the way it handles and I don't daily it anymore.

redline10000 02-05-2015 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Masterbeatty (Post 3102960)
I am running - 2.0 and my tires are fine on the inside. The toe out is what's killing my outer side of the tire. But, I love the way it handles and I don't daily it anymore.

-2 or 2.2 is was I was thinking about. How much toe out you got?

Rusty 02-05-2015 03:19 PM

Don't know about autocross. I track and DD 18 track days and 10,000 miles. Front -2 camber and zero toe. Tires look fine. The rear. -1.75 and a hair in for toe. No toe wear, but the insides took a beating. Going to -1.5 for rear camber.

redline10000 02-05-2015 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3103014)
Don't know about autocross. I track and DD 18 track days and 10,000 miles. Front -2 camber and zero toe. Tires look fine. The rear. -1.75 and a hair in for toe. No toe wear, but the insides took a beating. Going to -1.5 for rear camber.

Thnx I feel much better about running -2.0 up front and not tearing up my tires. FWIW I have -1.6 now 1/8th toe in the rear and my wear is good.

Tadpole 02-05-2015 08:20 PM

I will be attending an autocross meet this month at COTA And of course being a green bean I will just be observing and seeing if this is something I would like to do.

I might be a track whore by the end of this year.

stuy486 02-06-2015 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tadpole (Post 3103295)
I will be attending an autocross meet this month at COTA And of course being a green bean I will just be observing and seeing if this is something I would like to do.

I might be a track whore by the end of this year.

No need to sit it out, dive right in!

Tadpole 02-06-2015 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by stuy486 (Post 3103957)
No need to sit it out, dive right in!

I just might but hearing about brake fluid upgrade and a better oil cooler requirement has me a bit skidIsh. My Z is a base so there are probably some things to take under consideration.

stuy486 02-06-2015 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tadpole (Post 3104054)
I just might but hearing about brake fluid upgrade and a better oil cooler requirement has me a bit skidIsh. My Z is a base so there are probably some things to take under consideration.

Those concerns are primarily just for tracking conditions. For autocross purposes, the base model is perfectly fine, and you shouldn't have any overheating issues.

I ran my car (no oil cooler, stock brake fluid) all year last year (including a ProSolo event in 105 degree heat) and never had any problems.

FPenvy 02-06-2015 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3103014)
Don't know about autocross. I track and DD 18 track days and 10,000 miles. Front -2 camber and zero toe. Tires look fine. The rear. -1.75 and a hair in for toe. No toe wear, but the insides took a beating. Going to -1.5 for rear camber.

do you plan on doing multiple days at pitt race complex again this year? also have you ever stopped up when they do the autocross there?

I think I may do something up there this year.

Tadpole 02-06-2015 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by stuy486 (Post 3104075)
Those concerns are primarily just for tracking conditions. For autocross purposes, the base model is perfectly fine, and you shouldn't have any overheating issues.

I ran my car (no oil cooler, stock brake fluid) all year last year (including a ProSolo event in 105 degree heat) and never had any problems.

Thanks for the input. I will probably just jump in there and make myself a fool. Lol. I have had a few track days with sports bikes so I kinda know what to expect but then again do I?

Rusty 02-06-2015 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3104089)
do you plan on doing multiple days at pitt race complex again this year? also have you ever stopped up when they do the autocross there?

I think I may do something up there this year.

Yea, I'm going to try to do as many as I can. Might even check out an autocross too.

Masterbeatty 02-07-2015 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by redline10000 (Post 3102993)
-2 or 2.2 is was I was thinking about. How much toe out you got?

I have .05 out total in front, zero toe and - 1.5 camber in the rear.

FPenvy 02-26-2015 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3104366)
Yea, I'm going to try to do as many as I can. Might even check out an autocross too.

what about that trackcross event they do once a month too? have you ever tried that?

looks like auto x on the track. uses turns 1-8 only.

Tadpole 02-27-2015 05:48 AM

Well I did jump right in and did an autocross event a few weeks ago and had a great time. I did learn that I do not know how to drive my Z like I thought on the handling aspect. I was 6 seconds behind the best time out there. I learned a lot on my first time driving it. Good news is the number 1 and 2 spots were 370Z's.

FPenvy 02-27-2015 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Tadpole (Post 3123532)
Well I did jump right in and did an autocross event a few weeks ago and had a great time. I did learn that I do not know how to drive my Z like I thought on the handling aspect. I was 6 seconds behind the best time out there. I learned a lot on my first time driving it. Good news is the number 1 and 2 spots were 370Z's.

very nice :tup:


I wonder if i'll have to put my regular exhaust back on. I see in the rules there's some rule about 100db max? wtf? lol

03threefiftyz 02-27-2015 07:42 AM

100db is only certain sites for locals, but it is strictly enforced for all National events. 100db is louder than you think...

FPenvy 02-27-2015 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 03threefiftyz (Post 3123662)
100db is only certain sites for locals, but it is strictly enforced for all National events. 100db is louder than you think...

my FI exhaust maxed out the mic on the iphone which is a max of 105db I believe.

actually I've been looking at buying a db meter for $25 on amazon based on curiosity lol

03threefiftyz 02-27-2015 08:52 AM

Yeah, except the 100db is at 50'....


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