Fuel Starvation Control Product

Rusty · 12-12-2012, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phunk

It is so frustrating. I am not a track driver with my Z, just a street guy. But I had it happen to me so many times, it drove me nuts. Being that I have always focused on fuel system upgrades for these cars, I knew that I had found a mini-milestone for my auto parts creation.

Yes you have!

Zoren 370 · 01-08-2013, 11:34 PM

Seriously 15 gallons left in the tank caused you to have fuel starvation?

Shamu · 01-08-2013, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoren 370

Seriously 15 gallons left in the tank caused you to have fuel starvation?

15 gallons? No problem. Lol! I won't experience fuel starve until I'm under 9.

Mike · 01-09-2013, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Shamu

15 gallons? No problem. Lol! I won't experience fuel starve until I'm under 9.

I don't get it until I'm bone dry! (anymore)

whis9 · 01-09-2013, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Shamu

15 gallons? No problem. Lol! I won't experience fuel starve until I'm under 9.

Any more pictures or writeups on this?

Stock fuel tank cut in half?

Rusty · 01-08-2013, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoren 370

Seriously 15 gallons left in the tank caused you to have fuel starvation?

For the fast guys. That's about right. Us slow ones. About 1/2 tank.

SPOHN · 01-09-2013, 07:48 AM

^ Woot. Same here as of this past Sunday. Took 19 1/2 to fill up.

O&G · 01-10-2013, 10:33 PM

A lot of tracks and racing organizations require you to have a bulkhead between the driving cabin and where the fuel is stored so building a fuel cell setup will require you to take that into account. CJM's design retains factory style plumbing, storage and pumps. It's the best solution out there for our platform, especially for those people wanting to keep the stock look and feel. There are plenty of other companies out there that make surge tanks and you can even design a custom setup for a reasonable price, but this product is specifically designed for the 370Z which makes it particularly attractive.

///MSH · 01-11-2013, 07:47 AM

Depending on how fluent you are, a tank can be dropped in about 45 minutes to an 1 hr. you do not have to drop the rear sub-frame.

Here is a rather descriptive thread. PM for more details

///MSH · 01-11-2013, 07:47 AM

Here's the link
Ideas for fuel cell and fuel pump

Mr&Mrs · 01-11-2013, 08:50 PM

Sorry not trying to thread jack, but I had a little issue and figured you guys could help.

Question is about fuel starvation. What is the consequence (or car behavior) from the fuel starve? I will give some detail on what I experienced a few days ago.

I was accelerating up an on ramp to the interstate, was in 4th gear rolling onto the throttle and coming out of it planted. About 50 feet into the straight at 5k rpms it reacted like I hit rev limiter. Vitals looked great so after a mile or so I done a WOT in 4th again and it did not happen.

Later I took another right turn but much shorter maybe a 80 degree 100-125 FT turn. Same thing as I came into the straight around 5k rpms it acted like I hit the rev limiter. I played around all the way home and it did not do it again. Only after these right turns.

That said, I know a long sweeping right turn causes issues. What are the issues exactly (fuel cut car reaction)? Does it hit you while in the corner? Or in my instance's I was in and out of the corner quickly so the lag hit me as I was coming into the straight?

I had a couple dots over a quarter of a tank of fuel remaining, also the car is TT.
Thanks for any input I will rep when it recharges I ran out for the day!

phunk · 01-11-2013, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr&Mrs

Sorry not trying to thread jack, but I had a little issue and figured you guys could help.

Question is about fuel starvation. What is the consequence (or car behavior) from the fuel starve? I will give some detail on what I experienced a few days ago.

I was accelerating up an on ramp to the interstate, was in 4th gear rolling onto the throttle and coming out of it planted. About 50 feet into the straight at 5k rpms it reacted like I hit rev limiter. Vitals looked great so after a mile or so I done a WOT in 4th again and it did not happen.

Later I took another right turn but much shorter maybe a 80 degree 100-125 FT turn. Same thing as I came into the straight around 5k rpms it acted like I hit the rev limiter. I played around all the way home and it did not do it again. Only after these right turns.

That said, I know a long sweeping right turn causes issues. What are the issues exactly (fuel cut car reaction)? Does it hit you while in the corner? Or in my instance's I was in and out of the corner quickly so the lag hit me as I was coming into the straight?

I had a couple dots over a quarter of a tank of fuel remaining, also the car is TT.
Thanks for any input I will rep when it recharges I ran out for the day!

This is fuel starvation all the way. Tomorrow I will right a detailed response... This is difficult to do from my iPhone!

Mr&Mrs · 01-11-2013, 10:55 PM

Thanks so much! That keeps me at ease at least. I may purchase this in the future because I may track this car one day.

Quote:

Originally Posted by phunk

This is fuel starvation all the way. Tomorrow I will right a detailed response... This is difficult to do from my iPhone!

threeseventy · 01-12-2013, 03:09 PM

Question for those of you that have made this modification (Spohn, Mike, et al) what are your lap times before/after the fix?

Mike · 01-13-2013, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by threeseventy

Question for those of you that have made this modification (Spohn, Mike, et al) what are your lap times before/after the fix?

no different, just get to do a lot more laps per fillup.

01-09-2013, 07:48 AM	#7 (permalink)
SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 46 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 222	^ Woot. Same here as of this past Sunday. Took 19 1/2 to fill up. __________________

01-10-2013, 10:33 PM	#8 (permalink)
O&G A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Lone Star State Age: 42 Posts: 1,212 Drives: 40th Anv. Rep Power: 23	A lot of tracks and racing organizations require you to have a bulkhead between the driving cabin and where the fuel is stored so building a fuel cell setup will require you to take that into account. CJM's design retains factory style plumbing, storage and pumps. It's the best solution out there for our platform, especially for those people wanting to keep the stock look and feel. There are plenty of other companies out there that make surge tanks and you can even design a custom setup for a reasonable price, but this product is specifically designed for the 370Z which makes it particularly attractive. phunk likes this. __________________ O&G's Build/Journal <---(1st lowmount single turbo treeseventy) Built Engine Thread 2011 F-250 Build/Journal

01-11-2013, 07:47 AM	#9 (permalink)
///MSH Base Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Owasso, OK Posts: 86 Drives: '11 370Z Nismo Rep Power: 15	Depending on how fluent you are, a tank can be dropped in about 45 minutes to an 1 hr. you do not have to drop the rear sub-frame. Here is a rather descriptive thread. PM for more details __________________ 2011 Nismo with...Stillen Gen3 CAI, FI LTH's, Stillen CBE with Springfielddyno rear section. Stillen under drive crank pulley, UpRev, and LW flywheel. Penske 8300DA Valved by ANZE, SPR FCA's, Stillen F/R adj. sway bars, Enkei PF01's, and Hoosier A6's

01-11-2013, 07:47 AM	#10 (permalink)
///MSH Base Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Owasso, OK Posts: 86 Drives: '11 370Z Nismo Rep Power: 15	Here's the link Ideas for fuel cell and fuel pump __________________ 2011 Nismo with...Stillen Gen3 CAI, FI LTH's, Stillen CBE with Springfielddyno rear section. Stillen under drive crank pulley, UpRev, and LW flywheel. Penske 8300DA Valved by ANZE, SPR FCA's, Stillen F/R adj. sway bars, Enkei PF01's, and Hoosier A6's

01-11-2013, 08:50 PM	#11 (permalink)
Mr&Mrs A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,207 Drives: RZ34 Rep Power: 31941	Sorry not trying to thread jack, but I had a little issue and figured you guys could help. Question is about fuel starvation. What is the consequence (or car behavior) from the fuel starve? I will give some detail on what I experienced a few days ago. I was accelerating up an on ramp to the interstate, was in 4th gear rolling onto the throttle and coming out of it planted. About 50 feet into the straight at 5k rpms it reacted like I hit rev limiter. Vitals looked great so after a mile or so I done a WOT in 4th again and it did not happen. Later I took another right turn but much shorter maybe a 80 degree 100-125 FT turn. Same thing as I came into the straight around 5k rpms it acted like I hit the rev limiter. I played around all the way home and it did not do it again. Only after these right turns. That said, I know a long sweeping right turn causes issues. What are the issues exactly (fuel cut car reaction)? Does it hit you while in the corner? Or in my instance's I was in and out of the corner quickly so the lag hit me as I was coming into the straight? I had a couple dots over a quarter of a tank of fuel remaining, also the car is TT. Thanks for any input I will rep when it recharges I ran out for the day! __________________ Project Z <--Click - Check out the link too many mods to list! Last edited by Mr&Mrs; 01-11-2013 at 08:52 PM.

01-08-2013, 11:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
Zoren 370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: FL Posts: 11,018 Drives: 11 Nissan 370 M6 Rep Power: 1913654	Seriously 15 gallons left in the tank caused you to have fuel starvation?

01-12-2013, 03:09 PM	#14 (permalink)
threeseventy Track Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 600 Drives: Opinion Rep Power: 16	What are the lap times now? Question for those of you that have made this modification (Spohn, Mike, et al) what are your lap times before/after the fix?

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