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Intermediate+ level hpde driver, do I need cooling mods for first track day?

Looks like consensus will be rather elusive Oh well. I appreciate all the inputs - keep 'em coming. Originally Posted by Dwnshift For the "investment" of the oil cooler and

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Old 05-12-2012, 07:03 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Looks like consensus will be rather elusive Oh well. I appreciate all the inputs - keep 'em coming.

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Originally Posted by Dwnshift View Post
For the "investment" of the oil cooler and some ducting ... It's nothin compaired to what your gonna spend of the event and or possibly a bad outcome.
I agree with your post in general, but tracking any street car is huge compromise and an exercise in probability... your post would apply to any car that's not fully stripped, caged, and race converted. Anyway, the problem is that it's definitely not nothing compared to the cost of the weekend; and it becomes an absolute waste of time and money if I decide the Z isn't worth tracking.

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I only did a Hyperdrive, one HPDE-1 type session for about 13 laps and my oil temperature was pegged at 260
Wow, 260 doesn't worry me; but overcoming the cooling system in HPDE-1 is scary... and downright farcical. Did you back off at 260, or did it level out at 260 on its own?

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I gotta disagree. He is the level I was when I got the car. My first track day at Little Talladega ended after one 20 minute session when I cooked the brakes and my second had fuel starvation problems at Road Atlanta, requiring me to be towed off the track. That has nothing to do with cooling, but the car is easy to drive fast, and I would hate for him to waste a whole weekend babying the car. An oil cooler is a minimal investment, and good for the street too.
Cooked OEM pads/fluid or aftermarket? No oil cooling issues, then?

I think little Talladega is just evil... I set my S on fire there once - oil filter backed off a bit, sprayed oil on track causing me to have an exciting spin, while also spraying oil on the exhaust manifold. I can state with full certainty that the exhaust manifold temperature on an S2000 is higher than the flash-point of 10W-30 synthetic

The fuel starvation issue is the real reason that I'm unsure about tracking/keeping the car I just bought: hence the desire for a trial run on track. Oil and brakes seem to be fixable (brakes less so, I suppose), but they really seem to have screwed the pooch on the fuel system of this car. Anyone thought about putting an inflatable bladder (balloon) in the left half of the tank yet? In other words, give up 50% - 60% of tank capacity in the hopes that that keeps the fuel pump wet...

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Originally Posted by pen View Post
Don't the 2012 models come with factory oil cooler? I run Carbotech XP10/8 on the nismo and they work just fine. The 370Z is a sports car and should be able to handle some track time in stock form. If you're not sure about long term tracking then I wouldn't spend money on a bunch of mods right now, pads and fluid should be fine for now.
Apparently the OEM oil cooler ain't worth ****. And yes, it should be able to handle some track time in stock form. Nissan seems to have missed that memo... I didn't know how good I had it until I sold my S.
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