My First Track Day ...

MightyBobo · 05-02-2012, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

So should I get an oil cooler or brakes for my first hyperdrive? I'm thinking oil cooler since it will be hotter in June. By brakes I mean pads and fluid.

Brakes. Definitely brakes.

And I'm kinda with Sig here on the skipping the Hyperdrive. You'll feel there may be unfinished business after only doing one session.

On the other hand, if you really want to get out ASAP? Go for it...but do brakes.

MightyBobo · 05-02-2012, 04:28 PM

Oh, also: may be hotter in June, but as has been discussed before, just stay in a higher gear such as 5th. It'll warm up, but not nearly as fast as if you wring it out in 2nd/3rd over and over...

sixpax · 05-02-2012, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Brakes. Definitely brakes.

And I'm kinda with Sig here on the skipping the Hyperdrive. You'll feel there may be unfinished business after only doing one session.

On the other hand, if you really want to get out ASAP? Go for it...but do brakes.

I'll be doing mine for sure. I am thinking Motul 600, SS lines, and debating on pads (EBC Yellow Stuff is winning right now just because of money). Then I plan on meshing my grill and relocating my fang air vents feeding the CAI to the mesh somewhere, which will free up the fang vents to do the brake cooling thing. This is my cost effective plan right now, not sure what I am going to do for sure. You start adding the basics up I need (500+ oil cooler) just to play for the weekend on top of the $384 fee and then $249 for insurance and it gets up there in a hurry. My brother in law has a house 20 minutes away from the track so I won't have to worry about hotel stuff tho.

MightyBobo · 05-02-2012, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sixpax

I'll be doing mine for sure. I am thinking Motul 600, SS lines, and debating on pads (EBC Yellow Stuff is winning right now just because of money). Then I plan on meshing my grill and relocating my fang air vents feeding the CAI to the mesh somewhere, which will free up the fang vents to do the brake cooling thing. This is my cost effective plan right now, not sure what I am going to do for sure. You start adding the basics up I need (500+ oil cooler) just to play for the weekend on top of the $384 fee and then $249 for insurance and it gets up there in a hurry. My brother in law has a house 20 minutes away from the track so I won't have to worry about hotel stuff tho.

Motul 600 is what I ran at VIR/Autobahn CC. I now run the AP Racing fluid. Either works just fine. I think AP is actually more expensive.

SS lines aren't required at all, so if you want to save money, dont worry about them. But if you're planning on doing them for sure, then do them with the fluid swap obviously.

Carbotech XP10 Front/XP8 Rear is the defacto standard setup. Don't know much about the EBC Yellow stuff at all (for our application). XP8's all around would work, too.

And yes, track events add up really fast for me:
$350-400 for event
$200-300 for hotel if needed
$50 for food
$200+ for gas (truck, and car)
$160-200 for a trailer

And that's before I factor in any new parts that I need, like brake rotors/pads, tires...

An expensive hobby

. Nice to have a place so close to go to, though - my friend has a cabin about an hour away from Summit Point that we stay at. Almost the same time to get back to Baltimore! haha

SPOHN · 05-02-2012, 07:58 PM

^ I have friends that spend that on golf. lol

MightyBobo · 05-02-2012, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN

^ I have friends that spend that on golf. lol

Rofl, nice. Could never get into it...

cossie1600 · 05-02-2012, 09:48 PM

I used to run the RBF, good stuff, but I get pretty much the same thing from Amsoil for about 30% cheaper in cost

nabenson · 05-02-2012, 10:10 PM

I did an event in Houston in July without an oil cooler last year. The car managed but I had one installed after that. Oil temps hit the mid-hi 250's. Not terrible with synthetic oil, but it isn't something you want to do for an extended period of time.

For short sessions and lower temps you can get away without a cooler, but I personally wouldn't do it again.

I would also upgrade brake fluid and pads, but wouldn't bother with anything else until you have at least burned through one fluid change and the pads. You will be learning the car still, and thy will probably last a season. I have used the non-nismo pads as well as EBC Yellow. I prefer the yellows due to price and better performance. The OEM pads have a weak bit and fade pretty quickly. That said, they will work fine and you can wait until they a worn out.

Stainless lines are great (I have upgraded to them) but aren't really necessary. They were the last of my brake upgrades and they certainly instill more confidence, but seat time cod the same thing.

b1adesofcha0s · 05-02-2012, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Brakes. Definitely brakes.

And I'm kinda with Sig here on the skipping the Hyperdrive. You'll feel there may be unfinished business after only doing one session.

On the other hand, if you really want to get out ASAP? Go for it...but do brakes.

Yeah just trying to get out there ASAP for now. Full weekends will have to come next year when hopefully I will have a full time job. Also I want to get oil cooler and summer tires before I go out for a full weekend. The job situation is what's keeping me from doing full weekends right now.

I guess I'll be doing the brake pads/fluid first then instead of the oil cooler. Also want to paint my calipers red since we'll have them off any way

MightyBobo · 05-03-2012, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

Yeah just trying to get out there ASAP for now. Full weekends will have to come next year when hopefully I will have a full time job. Also I want to get oil cooler and summer tires before I go out for a full weekend. The job situation is what's keeping me from doing full weekends right now.

I guess I'll be doing the brake pads/fluid first then instead of the oil cooler. Also want to paint my calipers red since we'll have them off any way

The paint will probably get ruined at the track lol. Fair warning.

b1adesofcha0s · 05-03-2012, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

The paint will probably get ruined at the track lol. Fair warning.

Don't they have high temp paint for calipers?

Mike · 05-03-2012, 12:07 PM

they do, but these calipers get really hot

b1adesofcha0s · 05-03-2012, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike

they do, but these calipers get really hot

So probably no point in painting them

MightyBobo · 05-03-2012, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

So probably no point in painting them

Newp. Or you can just do a safe color like black/grey/silver. Either way the paint will likely crack and flake off a bit.

b1adesofcha0s · 05-03-2012, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Newp. Or you can just do a safe color like black/grey/silver. Either way the paint will likely crack and flake off a bit.

Meh I think I'll try painting it red for now. Won't be tracking it too much yet so maybe I can get it to last longer for now. I can always repaint it silver (which is the original color) whenever I change my brake pads again.

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