Anyone ever experience Brake Failure as C&D did?

mikegreco16 · 04-29-2012, 12:23 AM

Thanks for everyone that responded I'm in between three cars right now s2k, Z, mustang gt. I was aware of the issue and fearful of it, which is why I created this thread. Which it appears that from some of the responses my fears were well warranted.
Thanks guys and gals.

Red__Zed · 04-29-2012, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by mikegreco16

Thanks for everyone that responded I'm in between three cars right now s2k, Z, mustang gt. I was aware of the issue and fearful of it, which is why I created this thread. Which it appears that from some of the responses my fears were well warranted.
Thanks guys and gals.

Given the cars in your search, you may find these threads helpful.

m4a1mustang's 5.0, S2000, and other cars thread

Red zed car thoughts

5.0

M4a1 and I have both owned all three cars you are looking at, so can probably offer a little more depth in answering (some of) your questions.

clintfocus · 04-30-2012, 12:19 AM

Hawk DTC 60 pads up front, RBF 600 motul fluid in the lines, and my brake worked just fine, and im not a slow driver on track :P

Dwnshift · 05-03-2012, 02:19 PM

Did you order?
I know they got 10 sets

Dwnshift

red6spd · 05-09-2012, 09:27 AM

Yea because anyone who has been around the forum knows that Red_Zed just was curious umm yeaaaa, he never trys to start fights we me. Anyway I believe I read it in CarAndDriver since all you guys are so "curious" I will either look for the issue or search the internet.

Spikuh · 05-09-2012, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by red6spd

Yea because anyone who has been around the forum knows that Red_Zed just was curious umm yeaaaa, he never trys to start fights we me. Anyway I believe I read it in CarAndDriver since all you guys are so "curious" I will either look for the issue or search the internet.

What in the world are you saying here? You aren't even deflecting well anymore... Red_Zed isn't/didn't start a fight with you. He posted this:

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

link to anything verifying the fact that the abuse was out of the ordinary? Every car at lightning lap had been an abused press car...

Their post-mortem (as always, to be taken with a grain of salt) seems to fall in line with the widespread opinion that it is an airflow issue.

They were able to melt the pads on another Z, which doesn't lend much credence to the "it was abused" theory.

Z Meets Wall: We Investigate Why the NISMO Z's Brakes Failed at Lightning Lap - Feature - Car and Driver

As a response to this:

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Originally Posted by red6spd

Another fact most people dont know is the Nismo C&D had the brake failure was a press car that had thousands of tortured miles on it before C&D had it.

Now pay attention and re-read what both you and he wrote and actually sit and think about it a second before blowing a gasket and having a brain anurism. You made the assertion that your statement was a FACT. That means it can be verified as being truthful. His reply is simply asking that you provide the verification that the Z they wrecked was abused beyond that of every other car they were testing it against.

That's it...how in the world are you missing the point?

Instead of all this run around deflection you are failing misserably at, why not actually just look it up like you said you were going to and try to provide a link to the article? It would be so much easier and probably require less effort in the end.

Here is where you said you would look it up:

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Originally Posted by red6spd

Yea I will put it at the top of my list when I get home.

That is the 19th of April mind you. It is now the 9th of May, which is going on 3 weeks worth of time...

And now you are saying you will look it up again...go ahead and color me skeptical.

Now then....thread on.

DCNISMO · 05-09-2012, 10:34 AM

Who carries the Nismo ducts? I see the part numbers you posted, but who do you call?

osbornsm · 05-09-2012, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DCNISMO

but who do you call?

Dwnshift · 05-09-2012, 12:14 PM

Sorry for the interuption.
The ducts can be ordered from:
Nissan Motorsports Parts
1615-223-3335
The carbon ducts are made to fit the Nismo nose.
Same ducts found on the NISMO RC 370Z.
Just trying to help.
Dwnshift

Spikuh · 05-09-2012, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwnshift

Sorry for the interuption.
The ducts can be ordered from:
Nissan Motorsports Parts
1615-223-3335
The carbon ducts are made to fit the Nismo nose.
Same ducts found on the NISMO RC 370Z.
Just trying to help.
Dwnshift

I think this was mentioned on page 1, but Stillen has a brake ducting system as well.

They claim a 25% reduction in temps.

STILLEN : STILLEN 370Z Brake Cooling Kit

Mike · 05-09-2012, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Spikuh

I think this was mentioned on page 1, but Stillen has a brake ducting system as well.

They claim a 25% reduction in temps.

STILLEN : STILLEN 370Z Brake Cooling Kit

two different things, kind of. You need the nissan motorsports ducts, along with the stillen cooling kit for the stillen bumper car to make a kit for the nismo. Or you can make your own, the Nismo ducts are just the ducts that fix into the front bumper

DCNISMO · 05-09-2012, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Sorry for the interuption.
The ducts can be ordered from:
Nissan Motorsports Parts
1615-223-3335
The carbon ducts are made to fit the Nismo nose.
Same ducts found on the NISMO RC 370Z.
Just trying to help.
Dwnshift

Thanks, I did not want to intercede in this little spat going on here...I'm going to the Grand Am race this weekend in New Jersey, I'll see if I can talk to the guys running the Z's and take some pics.

Dwnshift · 05-09-2012, 03:14 PM

We aren't there.... well w the Z anyway. The team is there running a DP... but the RC will be back starting at Mid Ohio. Lookout of major updates to the Z's suspension and engine program....mainly new Bosch engine mng system.
Dwnshift

Dwnshift · 05-09-2012, 09:55 PM

We have fabricated our own backing plates and are looking into putting them into production. There is a lot of time / fabrication that goes into them....but we are looking at some options on it.
Dwnshift

Mike · 05-09-2012, 09:56 PM

what size hose are you using, out of curiosity?

04-29-2012, 12:23 AM	#1 (permalink)
mikegreco16 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: chicago Posts: 9 Drives: Jeep Rep Power: 15	Thanks for everyone that responded I'm in between three cars right now s2k, Z, mustang gt. I was aware of the issue and fearful of it, which is why I created this thread. Which it appears that from some of the responses my fears were well warranted. Thanks guys and gals. __________________ 2013 Mustang GT-Ford Racing Axleback, Koni Yellows, Steeda Race Springs, Hawk Race Pads 2004 Turbo Spec v-300whp (SOLD) 2005 35th Anniversary 350z-(SOLD)

05-09-2012, 09:27 AM	#5 (permalink)
red6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 3,277 Drives: 2010 Z Coupe M6 SPT Rep Power: 23	Yea because anyone who has been around the forum knows that Red_Zed just was curious umm yeaaaa, he never trys to start fights we me. Anyway I believe I read it in CarAndDriver since all you guys are so "curious" I will either look for the issue or search the internet. __________________ 2010 Base+Sport 6spd: Stillen G3, FI Non-Resonated CBE, FI Non-Resonated Test Pipes, UpRev Tuned, Custom 24R Oil Cooler, JDM Rear Fog-OEM Harness. ???Whp ???WTQ (Will find out come spring time)

05-09-2012, 09:56 PM	#15 (permalink)
Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2188	what size hose are you using, out of curiosity? __________________ NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968

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clintfocus Track Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: los angeles Age: 40 Posts: 933 Drives: 370z, EK Civic, F150 Rep Power: 17	Hawk DTC 60 pads up front, RBF 600 motul fluid in the lines, and my brake worked just fine, and im not a slow driver on track :P

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Dwnshift Track Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Cincy Posts: 717 Drives: NISMO 370Z RC Rep Power: 16	Did you order? I know they got 10 sets Dwnshift

05-09-2012, 10:34 AM	#7 (permalink)
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Dwnshift Track Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Cincy Posts: 717 Drives: NISMO 370Z RC Rep Power: 16	Sorry for the interuption. The ducts can be ordered from: Nissan Motorsports Parts 1615-223-3335 The carbon ducts are made to fit the Nismo nose. Same ducts found on the NISMO RC 370Z. Just trying to help. Dwnshift

05-09-2012, 03:14 PM	#13 (permalink)
Dwnshift Track Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Cincy Posts: 717 Drives: NISMO 370Z RC Rep Power: 16	We aren't there.... well w the Z anyway. The team is there running a DP... but the RC will be back starting at Mid Ohio. Lookout of major updates to the Z's suspension and engine program....mainly new Bosch engine mng system. Dwnshift

05-09-2012, 09:55 PM	#14 (permalink)
Dwnshift Track Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Cincy Posts: 717 Drives: NISMO 370Z RC Rep Power: 16	We have fabricated our own backing plates and are looking into putting them into production. There is a lot of time / fabrication that goes into them....but we are looking at some options on it. Dwnshift